, the pakistani westpoint, a military center, an intelligence center. >> the pakistanis were not ourted ally. i knew if seals got on the ground, and pakistanis showed up we would get in a gunfight with him, and win it would be a bloody battle. >> they planned for every contingency they could imagine, in rural north carolina they started building a full size replica of the compound with satellite imagery taken when the building was under construction in 2005. admiral mcraven knew they must repair as if it was a go. he received a message to head back to virginia beach, head quarters for seal team six, the briefing was unusual. >> we found a thing, the thing is in a house, and the house is in a bowl in the mountains, and the mountains in a country, you are going to go and get the thing. what is the thing, we can't tell you. where it the bowl, can't tell you. how are we getting there. we can't tell you, what is our air support, none. that is how it started. there were guards at the door. >> the cia debriefer or briefer comes out, first thing he passes out nondisclosure statements. >> did

great generals, you see the old war college curriculum that we used to see at the naval academy and westpoint, we're not emphasizing winning. that's the mission of the generals. we give them medals and have lucrative careers out of office. there's no resignations or punishment or firings. >> kirby is still trying to convince the americans left behind are not really abandoned. watch. >> how can the department of defense go before the american people, those military service members and the veterans and say the mission accomplished when those people were left behind? >> we've been clear we don't believe the effort has concluded. the u.s. government is going to continue to look for ways to try to help them find safe passage out of the country. i don't foresee a military role in that. >> raymond: jason who is going to find a safe massive for americans? the taliban? who? >> you want a highly trained seal team or maybe some marines that know how to fire weapons? they totally dismiss this reagan adage of peace through strength. you can get more peace with bad ass guns and bad ass people who know how

westpoint or the naval academy.se are -- you look at a lot of these names, obviously they're very politically aligned with the president. kellyanne conway, sean spicer. i wonder what you think about this, if this is something that actually -- is there going to be any blowback, do you think? >> well, this is one of those tricky situations, brianna, where there are definitely some names on this list where, if you're the biden administration, you're president biden's national security team, you think about sean spicer, the role he played, kellyanne conway. other names include h.r. mcmaster, those who served many years in the national security community. one thing that might be worth pointing out, what is the precedent here? the precedent is these people do serve out their terms and oftentimes the outgoing administration will make these appointments at the end so that their influence continues or the trump administration still in office was doing this. i think we might be focused on what is the precedent here. now, that