judge wetherell? >> senator, i think i will have to claim slight ignorance as judge barber did, that's not an issue that has come before me on the time i've been on the appellate court. my general recollection is consistent with him, it's a factor that can be considered as part of a larger cafeteria factors with the goal of promoting diversity in the student body. beyond that, i would have to look at the briefs and the arguments and do a little more research when the issue came before me. >> okay. fair enough. all right. let me ask you this and the role of legislative history. i think it's generally accepted supreme court practice now, precedent, that all justices have accepted. first thing you look at is a statute. and you ask is it ambiguous? and if it's not ambiguous, you don't go any further. right? y we agree on that? if it is ambiguous, you can go further. you can look at other things. if you have a statute in front of you that's ambiguous, in your judgment, that you're asked to construe, to wha