what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 nobel lawyureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a

and then there was the wharton beat, right? he likes to talk about his being a brilliant student at wharton. and she said, well, listen those folks at wharton i think your economic plan is trash. i mean, that's essentially what she said. you know, the other thing is she made him seem small. he is someone who wanted to come into this debate almost his whole hogan, right? he was talking about will she shouldn't be able to have any sort of stand on a box to seeing bigger. he wanted to seem the bigger, more masculine towering presence in she made him seem small i think she emasculated him in many ways, saying that he was laughing stock on the world stage, saying that he was weak, saying that he could be easily swayed by dictators. it was just a masterful performance i went in thinking she would be fine. she's a great debater, but she she almost was flawless in this debate, kept him so off script that he couldn't really land anything against her. >> but she didn't have to keep him off script if he stayed in the moment. and did what

school wharton school economists raid at her better than him on the economy and you could just tell that initial like jab because he went to wharton or at least the undergraduates cool, he likes to he likes to fight the number here, but he went to warden and when he says that, when she said that he couldn't respond, he couldn't help but to respond, i think she just set him up from the very beginning as she kept coming after him, as he talked about all of these instances, including his crowd size and people leave as crowds because they can't take the old show and he just couldn't resist it. and i think i think that kind of psychological operation was part of their plan from the beginning, donald trump couldn't resist it. he couldn't not respond. and i think it showed up in a way at the end where he was really incoherent and rambling yeah, the wharton school of by the ways that the university of pennsylvania in philadelphia and last, not only does trump spread repeated lies as we just heard from our fact-checker, daniel dale repeatedly, but he also spoke about kamala harris this way.

what the wharton school said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >>> you know, a lot of talk about rising debt here in the u.s., jarrett. is this a meaningful point is this something that resonates with voters? >> yeah, i mean, the debt's a really complicated issue when it comes to voters. generally republican voters care a lot more, yet it's hard to august that trump isn't the bigger spender among the two, and this would be tax spending rather than social safety net spending as soon as i say u the goldman sachs report a week ago, i knew it was going to show up in this debate it was tailor-made thrown at trump. i thought she handled that well. to handle the wharton analysis, that's where trump went to school another way to needle the former president. again, you know, it was really smart moves, but i'm not sure it causes any trump voters to suddenly say, you know, i need to rethink how i might cast my ballot. >> all right one thing we didn't see a lot of deep conversation about were tariffs. in a lot of ways, that seems like that might be one of the defining iss

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> i wentf finance and many of those professors, the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan. it's a great plan. it's a plan that is going to bring up our worth, or value as a country. >> do you believe americans can afford higher prices because of tariffs? >> we are not going to have higher prices and who was going to have higher prices is china and all of the countries that have been ripping us off for years. >> i intend to create an opportunity in economy, investing in smaller businesses, new families, what we can do around protecting seniors -- >> is the word many? it needs to be the drinking game. many, many. peter, this is good news on inflation but things still cost a lot. the average thing you want to buy is still 20% higher than it was a few years ago. trying to get car insurance, homeowners insurance, crippling. that is why it was a hard question, the first question kamala harris got asked. are you better off? it is hard to say yes because it is complicated. what is going to

. >> your discussion of tariffs would've gotten an a wharton school. the wharton school has soiled herself by giving a degree to this charlatan who clearly does not understand the first thing about economics. there are legitimate discussions for us to have about the regimen of trade in the 21st century. the old structure of trade clearly does not work quite the way it did. we have to find something different and new. there are strategic reasons at times for having tariffs. the idea that this will embrace our debt, that the only ones who will be are these other countries, evil or not evil, the idea that we will deter wars through the use of tariffs is just bizarre and that nobody even will tell donald trump how awful he is including people from wharton, is perplexing. >> i was surprised at the economic of new york because it was full of economist, journalist, and business people. there needed to be cheering there but people were confused and silent. jen, part of the issue of tariffs is we have all probably been overly promotional about free trade. we lo

the penn wharton budget model is a nonpartisan group. trump went to penn, wharton school of business, by the way. trump spoke last night on a town hall about on fox about his pick for vice president taking issue with the democrats, calling j.d. vance weird. he's not weird, said trump. tim walz is weird. he walks weird. he says there's something there's something weird with that guy. he's a weird guy. j.d. is not weird. he's a solid rock. i happen to be a very solid rock. we're not weird. we're other things. perhaps, but we're not weird. but he is a weird guy. he walks onto stage as something wrong with that guy, and he called me weird. and then the fake news media picks it up. that was the word of the day. weird, weird, weird. they're all going. earlier this week, john mccain's youngest son endorsed kamala harris. even though the mccains are longtime republicans. last night, another republican ultra conservative, liz cheney, said this. as a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the constitution, i have thought deeply a

trump went to went to penn wharton, by the way.ox news about his pick for vice president taking issue with the democrats, calling j.d. vance their on the left weird. he's not weird, said trump. tim walz is weird. he walks weird, he says. there's something there's something weird with that guy. he's a weird guy. jd is not weird. he's a solid rock. i happen to be a very solid rock. we're not weird. we're other things. perhaps but we're not weird. but he is a weird guy. he walks on the stage. there's something wrong with that guy. and he called me weird. and then the fake news media picks it up. that was the word of the day. weird weird, weird. they're all going. earlier this week, john mccain's youngest son endorsed kamala harris. even though the mccains are longtime republicans. and last night, another republican, ultra conservative, liz cheney, said this as a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the constitution, i have thought deeply about this. and because of the danger that that donald trump poses, not only a

you have the other side saying i went to wharton.ikes my plan. pick your poison. let's see. you got across the board tariffs and no taxes -- both say that. on the other side, you have price controls and taxing unrealized gains, raising the corporate tax rate and raising the capital gains rate. pick your poison which one of the blockbuster economic candidates does wharton stand behind? >> i think all of them are extreme and none of them will be implemented. it will be a divided government. >> mr. gridlock. >> it's going to be a gridlock. that's exactly what the market wants. >> great. >> you know, harris may be ahead now. if i had to come down on it, she would win. i think the senate is going to be republican. the house is close. you can't get either with trump or harris. you know, it's going to be blocked, thank goodness. >> thank goodness. that's funny that thank goodness neither of the plans has a chance of seeing light of day. that's the cynical. >> except for the renegotiation at the end of next year. that is the big time renego

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i know the wharton, i know the group at wharton does this, it's expensive. >> thank you. you provided information on the situations like health care. the chair and chair of ways and means request -- you had a response in may about permanently extending the enhanced affordable care act tax credits and you informed them on june 24th that if you did such an extension, 3.4 million more people would have health insurance each year. can you explain to me how the extension of the tax credit creates more people with insurance? >> yes. and that's, again, it's one of the alternative policies that we've analyzed is the extension of the premium tax credit. those provide additional subsidies for people to bioinsurance through the exchanges established by the affordable care act. they improve the affordability for people and that leaves more people to buy insurance and that's the main way in which it increases coverage, by improving affordability. people who wouldn't otherwise buy health insurance get covered and then as you said, it's in the millions, 3.4 million. >> if we don't exten

penny wharton said it cut inflation maybe by a tenth of a point. watch this. >> the most significant climate change law ever and by the way, it is a $369 billion bill. we should have name it had what it was. liz: andy, we've seen this report before. when people go heading out the door and start telling the truth. is that what's happening here? >> clearly and they should have call it had the inflation reactivation act and didn't reduce inflation at all. i don't care what penn wharton says and when the government spends that kind of money, it's inflation and that's what happens with the inflation so-called inflation reduction act and so called american act and and&going for them and might as well tell the truth and anybody that listens to the democrats talking point with the economy and really doesn't deserve any credibility and you can't believe what these people are saying about the economy. liz: yeah, who's not believing them, >> look at your wallet and don't go places. liz: who's not believing them is harvard's ken rogoff. ken is now saying we're

i want to the wharton school of finance. many of the top professors think that my plan is a brilliant plan. it is a great plan. it is a plan that will bring up our worth. our value as a country. >> not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and filed bankruptcy six times. >> everything she believed to three years ago and four years ago is out the window. she is going to my philosophy now. in fact, i was going to send her a maga hat. >> that is a taste of what happened. we watched the debate in philadelphia. first, what are you hearing from the harris campaign , eva? >> john, bottom line, they believe they accomplished their mission. they set out to characterize the president, the former president rather, as fundamentally not serious. as caught up in his own grievances. more concerned about his own issues more than everyday americans and easily susceptible to being needled on crowd sizes and engaging in conspiracy theories like falsely maligning immigrants as eating pets. that is exactly what they wanted to com

what the wharton school has said is that donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite recession. you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues, and i'd invite you to know that donald trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you. >> look, i went to the wharton school of finance, and many of those professors, the top professors think my plan is brilliant plan, it's a great plan. it's a pln going to bring up our worth, our value as a country. it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for our country. just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan. she copied biden's plan, and it's like four sentences. like run, spot, run. four sentences that are just, oh, we'll try and lower taxes. she doesn't have a plan. take a look at her plan. she doesn't have a plan. >> there's so much to get

that donald trump's plan would make the economy worse, mine would strengthen the economy what the whartonchool has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> and, guys, on the way out of the debate, donald trump actually went to the spin room that's where aides an pundits typically go and talk to reporters and spin the results of the debate. donald trump went there to do some spinning of his own in person what trump said in the spin room there after the debate last night is he knows that harris wants another debate he's not so sure that he wants another debate so there was an expectation of a second one of these, guys, now not so clear as both campaigns decide whether last night was good for them and whether they want to do it all over again good for them. >> are you burying the lede? tay-tay? >> oh, taylor swift endorsed kamala harris on instagram last night. that came late in the night. >> i know. it's not in the lede, but it's funny -- >> trump was asked about that in the spin room. he said, i had no idea what to make of it. >> he said it shows you the elitists

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation. and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues . and i didn't invite you to know that donald trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself. then he isn't looking out for you. let's just say that i went to the warrant is going to finance, and many of those professors, the top professors think by plan is a brilliant plan. it's a great plan, it's a plan that's gonna bring up our, our worth or value as a country. it's going to make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and create a lot of good solid money for compet, for our country. just to finish off at she doesn't have a plan, she copied by whose plan. and it's like a 4 set. this is like run spot, run for sentences that are just oh, we'll try and lower taxes. she doesn't have a plan. take a look at her plan. she doe

we are all familiar with the big digs about crowd size, the one she made about the professors at whartonp, it really got to him. you could see it in his facial expressions. though the rest of the american audience may not have seen it, he was proud to say he transferred into the wharton school of business. >> harris knew what she was doing. one beat on romney. liz cheney, she and her father both said we're voting for harris. the former congresswoman said, it's not enough to say we don't support trump, but take the next step and say, i'm voting for harris. looking at, perhaps, former president bush among them. what do you think? >> i think former president bush is a great example. even though he said he won't be endorsing, i'm not so sure, come only two to four weeks, that maybe he changes his mind. but republicans, i understand why some choose not to. as far as elected officials who can afford a security detail, that makes sense. but when you do that and you go after former president trump, there is a security issue for your family that is very serious. you know, you don't want your kids

what the wharton school have said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> it isrton school of finance and many of the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan, a great plan. a plan that will bring up our worth, our value as a country. >> trump was never a disciplined candidate, but he has clearly gotten worse. his brain is scrambled at this point, with conspiracy theories and bigotry and it was on full display last night. jon favreau is a former speechwriter for president obama. rebecca traister is a writer at large for new york magazine where she recently wrote about the joyous plot to elect kamala harris and they join me now. rebecca, what did you think of donald trump's performance last night? >> it is interesting because i thought so much since last night about the impact of her baiting him into saying these ridiculous things, right? and the level at which i think a lot of us absorb him is ridiculous, unhinged, out of control. she spoke to him at times like he was a toddler. i think he looked like a toddler a lot of times, but the thing that stuck wit

it is being used by 80% of wharton 500 companies, how do you scale it?e thing to think about with any enterprise software buyout, thinking about stripping costs, you try and rationalize the cost base. one way to do that is thinking about the impact of ai. anything involving a software company is thinking how do we incorporate ai into our day to day. there are certain companies that have been particularly impacted by the likes of chatgpt. if you're a customer experience software. smart sheet in particular, it is kind of clear that will be part of the equation for them. private equity has a lot to do. and the model playbook for this kind of deal. >> i wanted to mention cost optimization. also, vista does have interests in other software companies. might have some synergies there. >> it is a great example. a couple of the portfolio companies clearly know the space well. blackstone's point, i would throw in the combination of these funds with great expertise and expertise -- this is the first time they have partnered together. they did a deal earlier this ye

moment when she talked about economists from wharton also saying his economic plan would be bad for were just brilliant. >> do you think there will be a second debate? because, you know, she's already after the debate immediately, basil saying, let's do this. donald trump is saying he's less inclined but i won and it was the greatest debate ever. >> can i ask, what is this fascination that trump and j.d. vance have with pets and this conversation about people eating -- it's the most ridiculous thing i have ever heard, and why is this nominee of a major party talking about folks eating their pet. i do not understand that, but to answer your question, i had to get that out. as a person who owned a cat, i have to get that off my chest. to answer your question, look, i would love to see another debate, but i don't think you really need one, quite frankly. i don't think he wants -- i mean, he might want an opportunity to get back at her, but the reality is if i were her, i would say, no, we did exactly what we needed to do, we're done, and if you're going to go on a stage and engage me l

one of those bait pieces we're talking about as kamala harris there mentioned the wharton school at penn, obviously donald trump went there. he could not resist responding to that. the harris campaign clearly knew that by dropping that mention of wharton in there they would get under trump's skin it seems to have worked last night. no real indication whether there's going to be another one of these debates, guys trump was askedabout that on fox news last night. he said he won the debate. so, therefore, he doesn't think he necessarily needs one the harris campaign said they would be open to another debate. we'll see what happens back over to you. >> a lot of performative stuff last night jim, i'm wonder if you're surprised of things that didn't get mentioned, no tax on tips, unrealized gains, corporate tax. >> i was look, we got to get -- as someone who has started a lot of small businesses, the emphasis by vice president harris on the $50,000 break for taxes is something that is so -- that rankles me because you don't make any money when you start a business everybody knows that nin

the wharton school said the deficit will increase. 16 nobel laureates said that his economic plan will only fuel inflation and visit us. so let's see where we stand on the major issues, donald trump has no plan for you, he wants to protect himself, not care about you, what can i say, i went to the orton school of finance myself, and many of the professors there believe , that my plan is excellent, it will add value to the value of our country. people will be able to work here, jobs will be created, it will create real good money for our country. and finally, she doesn't have a plan, she copied the plan biden, it's four sentences that say run, run, and somewhere in there another sentence that oh we want to reduce taxes, he doesn't have a plan, i want to ask you about what you yourself said about customs tariffs, in fact, she says about the national tax, and you said about duties of up to 20% on everything that this country buys, then they say it's going to be passed on to consumers and vice president harris says we need to reduce...costs, are americans going to be able to pay higher pri

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> i went to the wharton school of finance and many of those professors, that top professors i think my plan is a brilliant plan. it's a great plan. >> the values i bring to the importance of homeownership knowing not everybody got handed $400 million on a silver platter and then filed bankruptcy six times hi first of all, i wasn't given $400 million. i wish i was given a fraction of that, a tiny fraction. and built it into many, many billions of dollars, many, many billions i mean, she, she, she tried to wanted him to do that and he did, but he he knew that she would want him to do that. >> well, i don't know what he knew or what he didn't what what is very clear as that she very intentionally crafted specific lines that we all know what happened. the second she said, we all braced ourselves because we were like, oh, you didn't do that because we know how he responds to his crowd sizes now we know how he responds to his personal wealth, and we know how he responds to any suggestion that he's n

i wanted to learn about health, economics, and i joined an md phd program at penn medical and the whartonchool. david: to set up shop to become a doctor? dr. shah: i didn't. david: did that disappoint your parents? dr. shah: it did at the time. and maybe not disappointed and made them awfully nervous. but after i took my last set of board exams, my then girlfriend and i, now wife and i, got in my car and drove 14 hours to nashville, tennessee from philadelphia, in order to volunteer on al gore's presidential campaign. david: it was during your timeout? dr. shah: it was. david: when he did not become president, what did you do? dr. shah: i found myself unemployed for a little while and i started dabbling in political consulting and doing some other things. david: did that make your parents nervous? dr. shah: it did, frankly them and everybody else. i thought, i should go back to medicine and just be a doctor and do a residency. but then i got a phone call from a friend who i met on the campaign who said, you know, bill and melinda gates were setting up this foundation. and they had big asp

what wharton said was donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> she has no policy. everything that she believed three years ago and four years ago is out the window. she's going to my philosophy now. in fact, i was going to send her a maga hat. she's gone to my philosophy. but, if she ever got elected, she would change it, and it would be the end of our country. she's a marxist. >> nbc's brie jackson joins us now. good morning, brie. the debate had a lot of tense moments. >> reporter: that's right, good morning, frances. we saw a clear contrast between the candidates on many issues, including reproductive rights. former president trump was asked repeatedly if he would veto a federal abortion ban if congress were to pass one. mr. trump dodged the question and seemed to contradict his running mate. >> your running mate, jd vance has said you would veto if it did come to your desk. >> well, i didn't discuss it with jd in all fairness. jd, and i don't mind if he has a certain view, but i think he's speaking for me, but i really didn't. look, we don't have to discuss it,

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would explode the deficit. 16 nobel laureatesave described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues, and i would invite you to know that donald trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself then he is in looking out for you. mr. trump: i went to the wharton school of finance and many of those professors, the top professors, think my plan is a brilliant plan, it's a great plan, a plan that will bring up our worth, our value as a country, it will make people want to be able to go and work and create jobs and a lot of good, solid, money for our country. just to finish off, she doesn't have a plan, she copied biden's plan, and it's like four sentences, like "run spot run." four sentences that are likely will lower taxes. take a look at her plan, she doesn't have a plan. david: i want to drill down on something you both bought up, vice president righ

it's not just the pen wharton budget model full costing that trump would greatly increase the deficit. others have said this, goldman sachs sacks, one of the world's biggest investment banks recently said trumpet, slowed economic growth. what do you think of his plans to the economy especially compared to houses? well, i think, you know, there's problems probably some partisan influence at the pen, martin as well as the goldman sachs. and i think they, they would probably look more at, at the dynamic growth that follows tax cuts, for example. and in tax revenues end up increasing. so i think if you look at it a step from a static point of view, yes. come, all of you could argue hers. there's only one truly instructions. 5 truly tax cuts work and they work for the trump administration, especially after they took effect in 2018. 2019 was a seller year. so i think he's got the track record. i totally agree with the corporate tax rates cut and that's, that's always beneficial to the economy. it's better for workers, it's better for customers, it's better for shareholders. so it's worked b

and it was a time because of the gangster crime going on the attorney general said there is a wharton crime going on. we are losing. you put the bureau after that and in confronting dillinger finally in chicago he tried to escape. as he is turning and pulling his gun out his shot by fbi agents. all off the sudden the fame dillinger had seen in the papers transferred to the fbi. and it was in light of that we brought down a number of other gangsters. hollywood started to take an interest in this. congress allowed us to name the federal bureau of investigation for the first time before that we dump a couple of different names. and all of the sudden law enforcement j edgar hoover. >> the atomic on the iconic tommy gun you have on display is at a gangsters gun or fbi weapon? >> that one specifically i am not sure of. something we purchased were try to keep up with the bad guys and of course the bad guys also had some. they tended to steal them from others. i would suspect that it's one of ours. the lesson we had that was identified as actually having been owned by a police station was ret

trump: i went to the wharton school of finance those professors think my plan is in brilliant and we'llp our worth and value as a country creating jobs and good solid money for the country. just to finish she doesn't have a plan she copied biden's plan and its 4 sentences that say oh will try and lower taxes look at her plan she doesn't have a plan. the vp brought up tariffs you responded because your plan is what she called a national sales tax you call for terrorists for foreign imports across the board recently you said you might go up to 20%. with tariffs at that level economists say it's passed on to consumers. harris has argued it would cost the families $4000 a year do you believe americans will see higher prices from terrorists? >> mr. trump: i was the only president china was paying hundreds of billions if she doesn't like them they should a cut the terrorists if they didn't like them. we will take in billions of dollars i had virtually no inflation they had the highest in the history a country they can't buy a cereal or bacon or eggs or anything else. the people of our country

. >> the wharton study the is done. and it is a little under 1.5 trillion.andidate seems to be very worried about it. does that bother you. >> he understands the way to get the economy to live with debt burden is rapid growth. that is what he is aiming toward her programs, taxing successful people, is not the way to stimulate. there is no more regulation and when we were in office, and there were grateful for regulatory reform. the tax cuts donald trump, neil: the regulatory relief, could i get your impression, targeting in on billionaires like your self, your a rags to riches, the book lays that out nicely. the kamala harris campaign trumpeting this, the rich are not paying their fair share and seems to register, boosting support. does that concern you? >> the way communists masquerade as socialists felt they could be permanently in powers two things, get to where more than half the population doesn't pay tax, we are just about there now and the other parties get to where more than half the population depends on government for their income. that is where th

would such a move be right on time or a bit too late let's can wharton business school professor jeremy siegel i want you to listen to what john paulson said in a rare interview this morning about what he thinking the fed should do. >> personally, i think the fed is a little behind the curve rates are 5.25-plus, and inflation is down to the 2.5% rate, so we have almost 3% real interest i think they have seen enough data that they can start bringing rates down, and more aggressive would be better i would be for a 50 base-point cut rather than 25. >> professor, what is your take on that and the fed's calculation? >> i agree 100%, but i don't think they will. i think it will have to be a really bad retail sales report early next week for them to do 50 i agree, as you know, i've been for these aggressive cuts, but the deliberateness of jay powell is 25 basis points you know, mike, one interesting thing, it is almost incredible, the fed funds futures that reflects the june meeting next year, june 2025, is now trading at 3%. >> yeah. >> i mean, that is actually more than nine cuts under the c

typical terrorists economy number one, veered off in a minute another direction i think she mentioned wharton behind me and goldman sachs everybody nose i know about that -- did not get into substance. >> goldman sachs is not a conservative organization, for the record folks. cheryl: she was saying behind her but on tariffs, she brought up trade deficit, china, chips, the copying of ai chips in sign some was brought up then, again, lost. >> one of the most fascinating points that trump did make last night kept setting sort of sidetracked did make the point that biden administration, has kept almost all of the trump tariffs in place, fascinating. admittedly fray heard about from mr. trump i didn't like as investor that he is likely to increase tariffs yet again, that would be very inflationary, i think that creates angst, and wasn't inflationary during first term remember that he wasn't going much beyond what he did in the first term in terms of what he was proposing last night, it -- everybody thought editorial page said going to be inflationary a lot of good company in believing so but did n

i went to the wharton school of finance. many professors, the top professors think my plan is a brilliant plan, a great plan. a plan that will bring up our worth and value as a country. it will make people want to work and create jobs and create good, solid money for our country. to finish off, she does not have a plan. she copied biden's plan and its four sentences. ron, spot, run. four sentences that are we will try a lower tax. she doesn't have a plan. host: you can see the full debate sponsored by abc news at c-span.org. go to our video app at c-span now to see the whole debate. we will show you other portions. (202) 748-8000 for those who support vice president harris. (202) 748-8001 for those who support former president trump. if you're supporting another candidate, (202) 748-8002. if you are undecided, (202) 748-8003. in maryland, cassandra on last night's debate. a supporter of vice president harris. good morning. cassandra, hello? caller: good morning. thank you for your time. i would like to say that the debate la

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year, would invite a recession. you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues. i would invite you to know that donald trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself than he is in looking out for you. host: let's talk to victoria in texas, republican. hi. caller: good morning. i have a question and a comment for both guests. i am advocating for senior citizens. my question is, taxing social security, when seniors weren't working, and they paid taxes already. it is in double taxation? explain that. my next thing is a comment. i believe one of the candidates is bating young voters with the tax credits, the childcare care tax credits, the $6,000, and of the $25,000 housing. and what we have seen in the past with student loan forgiveness, no tips taxed. but some of these candidates, they voted on the inflation reduct

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit i'm going to actually do something really unusual, and i'm going to invite you to attend one of donald trump's rallies because it's a really interesting thing to watch. you will see during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like hannibal lecter. >> he will talk about windmills, cause cancer and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. and i will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. if you want to really know the inside track on who the former president is if he didn't make it clear already, just ask people who have worked with him john king it was the moment she talked about his crowd size of all things and people. >> he was crowd size. it was people being bored and leaving his rallies early. i don't think he ever recovered from that. he was he started shouting and he never stopped. >> she triggered him there. i think she was uneven at the top. not a bad answer first answer in

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. 16 nobel laureates have described his economic plan as something that would increase inflation and by the middle of next year would invite a recession. you just have to look at where we are and where we stand on the issues and i'd invite you to now that donald trump actually has no plan for you because he is more interested in defending himself that he isn't looking out for you. >> it's just a second, but i that you say. >> went to the wharton school of finance and many of those professors, the top professors. think my plan is a brilliant plan. it's a great plan. it's a plan that's going bring a park are worth or value as a country. it's going to make people want to be able to go and work create jobs and create a lot of good, solid money for comfort for a country and just to finish off. she doesn't have a plan. she copied biden's plan and it's like 4 sentences like run spot, run 4 sentences that are will try and lower taxes. she doesn't have a plan to take a look at a plant. she doesn't have a

they gave her that to say look, i went to the wharton school of finance and many of those professorsssors, think my plan is a brilliant plan. it's a great plan as the debate continued, vice president harris repeatedly appeared to get under former president trump's skin as she tried to knock him off message. >> even mocking something quite close to trump's heart. his campaign rallies and the size of them i'm going to actually do something really unusual, and i'm going to invite you to attend one of donald trump's rallies, because it's a really interesting thing to watch. >> you will see, during the course of his rallies, he talks about fictional characters like hannibal lecter. >> he will talk about windmills cause cancer, and what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early out of exhaustion and boredom. and i will tell you, the one thing you will not hear him talk about is you. you will not hear him talk about your needs, your dreams and your needs and your desires, she said. >> people start leaving. people don't go to her rallies. there's no reason to go. an

neil: and wharton plan says 5 trillion to it and hers i believe a little over one and a half tral and those numbers probably aren't worth the paper they're printed on. neither candidate seems to be worried about the debt. does that bother you? >> well, i know from my personal experience with trump that he understands that the way to get the economy to be able to live with debt burden is rapid growth and that's what he's aiming toward. her programs, taxing successful people. taxing successful businesses, is not the way to stimulate, but the worst thing is there will be more and more regulation and when we were in office, when businessmen would come to see me, they were much more grateful for regulatory reform than they were even for the tax cuts that president trump put in. neil: all right. that full interview is on our fox business website. >> and we talked to a lot of other economic issues, not very germane here. but the spokesperson discussed the post debate environment with me and some of the economic numbers that wilbur ross was just dismissing. take a look. >> independent economi

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necessarily have the exact timeline, but you do have somebody who knew who was reckless, who was sort of wharton and unreasonable in their conduct in the law provides that they can in fact yours criminally as well as the shooter. and in this case, we know that in may last year both the teenager and parent were interviewed by the local sheriff after an fbi tip about a threat of a possible school shooting i've got some of that sound. i just want to play some of that sound by the parent worked i've been was him. >> they are having there's nothing loaded, but they are down we get we actually we do a lot of shooting. >> we do a lot there on he shot his first day of this year so i'm pretty much in shock. >> may be asked well, i'm old off to be even really honest that event is what was said so he's dad was aware that this threat of a school shooting was made, yet that same year, christmas that year, he gives to his son and ar 15 is then 13-year-old son how is that going to be used by the prosecution? this is probably one of the most crucial pieces of evidence that the prosecutor will have. and that is

wharton school professor jeremy siegel, thank you.ited today. the year over year number on pce, 2.2% from 2.5. it's the core year over year number the fed watches closely that went up to 2.7%. so we're nearing target but still a little elevated. >> all right. let's move on to talking a bit about hurricane helene because it made landfall as one of the strongest storms that hit the continental u.s. in years moving north. let's get to nbc news's george solis live from asheville, north carolina, with the latest. george? >> hey, good morning, good to be with you. yes, tropical storm helene now coming into the region here delivering some impact. we're seeing some trees down here in the downtown area. you can see actually one right there that was toppled over. this, obviously, just scratching the surface of the bigger picture of damage that we're about to see here in this region. this is not an area that is used to hurricanes like this, so there are flood warnings in effect for much of this region right now as some of the rivers and tributar

what the wharton school has said is donald trump's plan would actually explode the deficit. >> i've seen long time. i've never seen dials like that. can you explain it? >> so i had a really hard time understanding what was going on. i did 3 different focus groups and did the survey trying to understand what this all about and i didn't expect to see independence tracking exactly like this. with republicans. we saw something similar in 2016. independence tracked with republicans then but not quite as extreme and here's the bottom line. when i talk to voters and asked him what this is all about is to they're to hear from call my harris why she was different than joe biden. how are economic plans were different and murray are today because today things feel bad. things don't feel good. and they don't buy that anything she saying platitudes or general that she will do anything different. they want something that says a separate, she separates herself from him. most people remember they felt much better under donald trump so undecided or independent voters are saying listen. i want to know it'

she named goldman sachs, and wharton, and places that have set under his plans that would help the richebt. this is the election about the future, right? she outlined a very positive vision. >> it's not a positive vision. she has guaranteed she's not going to allow the extension of the trump tax cuts, cut taxes for everybody. she wants to increase capital gains tax, increase the corporate tax. >> breaking news: shanksville, , pennsylvania, president biden and vice president harris participating in a wreath laying ceremony for united airlines flight 93. 23 years ago, that plane was hijacked by terrorists and later crashed into the ground in shanksville. let's watch together. >> just -- my shot. thank you. >> how do you see -- [inaudible/indecipherable] >> are you going to cover the video? >> i am proud of my colleagues on fox news channel. all day long, we have been -- -- that was the wreath laying ceremony. this coming moments after president biden was here on the ground in pennsylvania, joined by vice president kamala harris, walking up near that site where all of this happened and all