and 23, whatome 25 is it going to look like if nothing changes? maya: the interesting thing about our country is, people talk about whether we will have a crisis. are we going to fix the problem or have a crisis? i think the answer is in between. i don't think we are going to have the biggest debt deal that i think the country needs to put us on a stronger path, because partisanship is so strong and the issue is so tough. the only way we get bipartisan compromise these days is if both parties get what they want and nobody pays for any of it, so we end up borrowing more. debt policy is one of the hardest things to address. i'm not optimistic that we are going to have some big, sensible deal that could really help gin up this economy. we have got to keep working on to not let things get worse. but i don't think we're going to have a fiscal crisis. the u.s. is strong and resilient, people want to lend to us because we are politically stable. it feels crazier here than it has in a while, but we are a politically stable country. i think what happens is