whatsapp pavel: i can elaborate on that. mike: sure., and we were supposed to have flying cars and that by now. mike: jet packs. pavel: it is over. you cannot send documents with big media. , with your communication, so i am not sure i was a big fan of whatsapp. mentioned privacy, and you made a big claim about telegrams, their ability to be encrypted. amean, that is obviously laudable claim, especially with , butoing on in the world it a sense, where is the business proposition in encryption? pavel: i had a friend. back when i was living in russia, i had a friend, and she was talking about the whatsapp messages in the police department, so they lifted her , and she told me that they tried to use it to blackmail her, so privacy is not just for businesses. ,hich people can be blackmailed and their information is more valuable. mike: so you're saying that you retain users because they trust you. pavel: that is just one of the things that makes the telegrams different. mike: describe that to us and how that might become such a significant