whenornia is the innovator it comes to the united states of america. to locate in california. we want them to know the innovation occurs here. we want people to know we want to do it for everyone. becerrathat was javier i'm a attorney general of california. xavier becerra, attorney general of california. spoke with a guest. the notion is protecting the open internet as a global resource, accessible to all. we would like to reinstate those it -- those open internet principles. emily: others have complained about the world being -- about the rules being rolled back. it's a wonder we haven't seen stronger action from some of the tech giants. what do you make of that? >> the notion is, i think most of the tech companies support through alliances. that is why it was important for us to make a statement in this as a petitioner so we can help control litigation. emily: you say ending net neutrality could end the internet as we know it. why would that be such a bad thing? the internet isn't perfect. >> the internet isn't perfect, but it is -- the notion of the