a cd sold by the church in which williams is preaching his views about who's to blame when a male whichlsfemale. >> if you girls are walking down the sidewalk and some fellas drive by and they whistle, you better stop and think about that. what drew that whistle? was it the way i was walking? or maybe the way i was dressed or whatever? did i do something to defraud those men? >> the website features pictures of girls who have attended and claims that are no spankings or any out of the ordinary punishments. this facility has been around for about four decades. it seems to be a thriving enterprise. as you can see the people in charge don't particularly want to answer my questions. but we're not alone. they don't really answer to the government either. in indiana group homes operated by churches and religious ministries are excerpt from licenseure. nobody many the government knows what goes on. the women say their parents also had no idea. >> in the 15 months that you were in this house how many times did you leave the grounds to go somewhere else? >> never. >> zero? >> zero. >> the indiana