host: can in a texas says there's a great deal of waste whicsiificantly adds to the cost. the seven attribute it mostly to administrations and paying for tenured faculty who do little teaching. yet these costs continue to rise. what do you think? guest: first of all, one of the things i do at the president and i did it before as provost, is always to look for ways to cut waste and find more efficient ways for the university to do things. when i with the chief budget officer of the university i was maximizing the impact of mission-based dollars. but let me say a couple of things about why it is that any university is going to have to invest collectively and people both on the faculty side and on the staff side. i will just mention on the staff side the conversation i just had with previous caller about counseling and psychological services. all of those people are staff. they're doing critical work to support our students and other members of our community in order to enable them to flourish, and i think that is true of a vast majority of people who sometimes get grouped un