. >> joining us here on "the communicators," whileer at the broadcasting board of governors, she is with the ukrainian language service. what do you do? >> we do everything. we produce the, we broadcast, we interview, we go live on air every possible way, and we are using all possible domain to do that. television, social media different type of television broadcasting. we have a couple of tv shows. different type of shows. news shows. russian language shows. even ukrainian service, because of war we're trying to help the russian-speaking population of ukraine. >> how did you get here? >> i came here 10 years ago i came to the united states as political refugee from ukraine. i worked for political liberty for couple of years. then voice of america wanted to expand their television. since i had a lot of experience in television in ukraine. i was journalist, broadcaster, producer, i knew television very well, they invited me because i was interested in doing more television product. i came because my husband, crusader journalist in ukraine who created the first internet newspaper in ukrain