he opened the white house up.hey began to try to engage in a public conversation and tackle the issues that tarnished the republican party. the corruption of thegrant administration when he said there would be civil-service reform. when he really pledges to pull the remaining troops out of the south. assuming that the governors, the government in new orleans and columbia will honor their commitment. he is trying to extend an olive branch to people, saying, i hear and i'm only going to serve one term so let's figure out how to make the most of this together. >> how did lucy help in this effort? >> she understood how politics work and how to entertain. she understood how to facilitate conversation between people that were difficult. she understood how to really bring people at the table in a way that would advance her husband. she was charming and everybody loved her, despite the no alcohol. she was able to do things in a way that made him seem approachable and ethical and blunt. >> she was the first first lady to h

years in the white house. we have her bed and she was an invalid we have an invalid's chair n. this chair she could get up during the day and partake in some of her favorite activities and still relax. being an invalid spending most of her time in this room, this would have been necessary for what she suffered. there say wash base sin and chamber pot. hearse are pink and the president's are blue in his room. embroirdry work and she enjoyed reading poetry. one of the books was entitled the happy life. she and andrew suffered a lot during the civil war and during his presidency and one of the poems she mark sd entitled love and adversity. the stormy skies have drawn our spirits nearer and rendered us each to the other dearer. she was an avid scrapbooker and she kept a wonderful collection of newspaper articles she clipped about her husband. she gathered them here in her scrapbook and they run from the 1850's until past her and an due's death to the 1880's. we can only assume that one of her daughter's kept the t

the white church. it's as if we are meeting king annual. we are not really, it's a team that many african-americans them from the mass meetings and preaching new. the ambassador of brotherhood turns out to be not just a dreamer, but a christian warrior. he did not think that many whites have much empathy or willingness to act on the empathy for black people. he wasn't naÏve about the power of moral appeal to change white parts without protest. with that nonviolent demonstrations, without pressure. i should've realized, he said, and i'm going again because it's so important to understand, that few mayors of the oppressive weight can understand the deep p groans. its axis stake in the there's the language of oppressor and oppressed the exodus moved here. despite the dignity and refine this, you can sense the controlled anchor roiling close to the service. if we just read we can miss a. he says, for years now i have heard the word of weight. it rings in the air of every negro with piercing familiarity. ki

white. yeah, she heard white. why did she hear the white? because she's standing right next to the-- that's right, honey-- some, some, filtering. she could have come right at her. it's a good thing you didn't have your eyes there. [laughter] oh, god, no, no, don't. let's get your ear in there. just get your ear, okay? you heard a white. isn't that true? okay. here we go. okay, like that. now, we are at sunset, gang. sunset, uh-huh, all right? air is thicker, huh? what color do you guys hear? blue. white. orange. yellow. [laughter] paul, would you pass out the q-tips? let me remind you, we got, blue, blue, blue, red, blue, blue, chartreuse, blue, blue, red, blue, blue, pink, all right? a reminder, huh, all right? now, you put your ear right behind. you're gonna need with your eye now, sorry? what color do you guys hear? blue. blue. what color do you hear, maydell? orange. yeah, all right. maydell, right here. right here, honey. beautiful. great. you've been a sport. let's hear it for maydell, all right? [applause] now, let me ask you a questi

and we just heard our own white house correspondent kristen welker asking jay carney, white house press spokesman, questions. we'll get to her later. >>> let's go straight to our panel. with us from washington, msnbc political analyst, and soon to be msnbc host, karen finney. in philadelphia, lehigh university professor, james peterson. karen, what is your reaction to this revelation that there were 12 versions which contained what have been described by members of the press as extensive changes to the talking points? >> i find it absolutely absurd and an obscene waste of time. i have to tell you, martin, having been a part of this kind of process where, i mean, and literally, i think as some our reporting earlier today indicated, we are talking about words were moved around. one case a sentence was taken out. not a sentence of consequence. when you have an it rative process, there are going to be changes. the bottom line is, i think this is what jay is getting to, did anything change that changes our understanding of what happened then and what we know that? i think the point jay has b

we know the president's attorney, the white house counsel, and the chief of staff in the white houseo the president, both did know earlier than what we were told, and we discovered that the white house was involved in working with the treasury to leak this story before the ig report. >> right. >> sean: i want to get both of your reactions to that. congressman jordan, we'll start with you. >> exactly right, sean. they were so calculating, they orchestrated the rollout, how they were going to break this story to the american people, because they knew the ig's report was coming. people at the white house, at the irs, are choreographing how to do, this but yet a year ago, two years ago, when it was all going on, the 132 members of congress inquire about it, 118 visits to the white house, numerous news reports, nobody knows anything. and yet when they have to actually present it, because now it's here, oh, they're choreographing, spinning, scheming how they're going do i. that causes the american people to say something's not right here. >> sean: chairman issa, did they lie when they said

>> less in this white house than many of the previous white houses.d like we said, one of grover cleveland's -- perhaps his biggest issue was tariff reform and she actually attends a senate debate and sitting in the gallery over his major piece of legislation on tariff reform. so it's one of the only pieces of direct evidence that we have of her in any involvement of current political influence. other than that, they're using the white house for very different things. she's able to improve his standing in d.c. just by standing next tom. he has the reputation of coming in the white house, he likes poker and hanging out with his guy friend and he likes smoking and hunting, fishing, drinking bourbon. and she socializes, civilizes him almost immediately and gives him some political cache but then you talk about how the white house is being used in the ways we talked about in terms of other first ladies, she's doing things like getting involved in copyright legislation to focus on intellectual property, that this is a woman's sphere in order to protect the

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white house for a long time. they feel like they're talked down to. they feel like there is no access. that he goes over the, the president goes over their heads to talk to the people and doesn't even consider them important. and so this is a chance, what you're seeing, i think is the media suddenly turn and, you know, ironically of course it is on issues that affect directly the media in the case of the ap. and self-interest on their part but you are definitely seeing the media turn on this white house and you're seeing a lot of bottled up frustration come to the fore!. gregg: is there a pat an here, karl, when you ask the president about things like, the irs, news to us, he says. the app snooping scandal, didn't know anything about it. benghazi, there is no there there. is there a pattern? >> he is a disengaged and distant president. but on the other hand it is a bit appalling. i can't imagine the attorney general and the department of justice would not have given the office of general counsel inside the white

at the white house? our first lady's staff at this point in the process? >> there was a social secretary and. initially the ladies get together and fill the blanks for invitation. it was, you know, president and mrs. grant and the hon. blank blank. there friends would come over for a two-party and it would fill out the banks usually. she had the housekeeper. the one who travel to europe with her. >> i think so. >> there were very close. she called him a most excellent man. i daresay she helped with some of that, but most of the social duties, there might be a clerk from the office that would help, but there was no social staff until mrs. theodore roosevelt. >> here is a question about their days preceding coming to the white house. he wants to know, grant's family was often closed by during the war in washington d.c. in julia have a present in washington before the election? >> i would say yes. >> yes. actually, because grant was still head of the army after the war. and then for a short while in turn se

you'll have it at the white house.t them by 118 times? it doesn't add up. >> sean: he's there 157 times. hillary clinton 43 visits. tim geithner -- >> here's what's not plausible, okay? i don't believe that all 157 visits were devoted to crushing the tea party. but what's not believable -- maybe they were, we don't know -- but what's not believable is the idea that 1 of this -- keep awar in mind, the s was aware this was happening, months back, last year -- it was never discussed. the irs knew it had an explosive scandal on its hands, about to become public, and it was not discussed in the white house. are you serious? >> sean: the easter egg hunt, it's a cute, funny answer, but 157 times, borders on contempt of congress, especially considering the seriousness of what we're investigating here, leslie. >> i wouldn't disagree that it was being more than snarkey. it certainly wouldn't have been my response. four investigations going on. if there's a special independent counsel, i can't say shulman taking the foul, especia

and the third question is, did it votch the white house -- did it involve the white house? was the white house involved in making it happen or condoning it? we don't have any evidence of that. gwen: we're going to circle back. there were two other big scandals we want to touch on lightly before we get to the full analysis. and the second was benghazi. the clash that just won't go away. who saw the attacks in libya coming? did the administration try to shift blame with laundered talking points? the president says it's all politics. thing defies loig. and the fact that this keeps on getting churned out frankly has a lot to do with political motivations. if anybody out there wants to actually focus on how we make sure something like this does not happen again, i am happy to get their advice and information and counsel. gwen: hundreds of emails about the controversy were released this week. what did we learn from those, john? >> well, ok. where to begin? from john's point which is that the i.r.s. scandal has no connection to the white house. this is the controversy of the three

that is what we abided by and that is what the white house should do. i just want to say some reporting suggests and i think this is worth noting, suggest that given the awareness of the potential findings we should have done more. that could not be further from the right course of action. the cardinal rule is they said is you do not intervene in an independent investigation. you do not do anything that would give such an appearance particularly when the final conclusions as was the case here has not been reached and that is the doctrine we followed and the bottom line is sent this isn't just the most important fact that it is what we have said from the beginning. not just the white house or treasury did intervene in the inspector general's audit. i hope in anticipating this question and understanding there was confusion about it i hope that supplies the answers. >> if you could clarify a couple of things. someone was seen in the counsel's office. >> white house counsel cathy romer was notified on april 24. there was also a notification as part of a ser

was given to the white house in april? >> yes, the first time as we he said that any one heard about this at the white house is when the counsel's office of treasury department called to let us know there was an investigation that was coming to a conclusion. we didn't know the details of it. we didn't see the report. we had no facts at this point. just that an investigation was coming to a conclusion. >> chris: but you didn't know anything about the idea that the irs was targeting conservatives and even know that the ig was investigating them. >> we knew they were investigating the potential targeting of political group is. >> chris: you did know that? >> we knew that just a few weeks ago. >> chris: i'm saying before that. >> no one knew that. >> chris: here is the problem with that. because in the congressional hearing on friday the irs inspector general russell george said that he had talked to neal woland the deputy tressi secretary around june of 2012 in the the middle of the presidential campaign and told him that he

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was mark twain or regular at the white house? guest: not at the white house.t was afterwards that they developed a close relationship. apparently twain had years earlier suggested to grant about writing his memoirs but almost as an offhand remark. so when grant says that century magazine is going to publish his memoirs, because there were the first to make the offer, mark twain reminded him that, no, he had made the offer much earlier. host: i will ask if we can bring the photograph up again of the president in his final days. it is such a poignant picture. wrapped in his blanket on the porch of the cabin in new york. guest: in horrible pain. host: it was throat cancer. how was he able to get these memoirs done? guest: sheer determination. guest: he became impassioned. it was so important to secure a comfort for his wife. guest: he died so shortly after that it seemed as though adrenaline was keeping him going. julia talks about that and grant does, too, that that was keeping him going to finish those. host: i would like to take a call, but then a with like to

at the white house, another story rocking d.c., reporters asking the president, did anybody at the white house know that the irs was targeting conservative groups? it's kind of an important question. did anybody know at the white house that the irs was targeting conserve conservative groups? we need an answer, the way president obama is answering is raising new questions. >>> devastation in reports of northern texas. deadly tornadoes destroyed homes and right now there are big fears that people may still be trapped under tons of debris. we have live breaking news coverage. coming up next on "studio b." >>> breaking today, another controversy for the obama administration. this one concerning national security. the justice department's office of the inspector general released a report, and that report indicates that the witness security program was unable to locate a number of known or suspected terrorist. the spin spector general's office is responsible for keeping tab on thity department but now the justice department is pushing back, claim nothing one is missing. no threat to the public

sean: that's the state department and the white house. >> that's the state department and the white house. >> sean: yeah, making further edits. two things here. one is -- i won't belabor this point, but when jay carney lied and said there were only style listening differences, frank -- stylistic differences, he should be fired, because he can't be trusted. i would people in the press room have lost all confidence in him. the bigger picture here, all of this -- you know, when we talk about the state department having major reservations with much or most of the document, which it says in the emails, well, is that hillary clinton? we need an answer. >> right. >> sean: the second thing we need an answer to is about president obama. the president that night, by all accounts, never went back to leon panetta, never went back to hillary to get an update on the situation on benghazi. he went to sleep, got up the next day, went out campaigning. then two weeks later on "the view," before the united nations, was still echoing something that all of us knew was false, that by then he should have

he opened the white house up.hey began to try to engage in a public conversation and tackle the issues that tarnished the republican party. the corruption of the administration when he said there would be civil-service reform. when he really pledges to pull pull the remaining troops out of the south. assuming that the governors, the government in new orleans and columbia will honor their commitment. he is trying to extend and knowledge -- i'll -- i'll of ranch to people. -- olive branch to people, saying, i hear you. >> how did lucy help in this effort? >> she understood how politics work and how to entertain. she understood how to facilitate conversation between people that were difficult. she understood how to really bring people at the table in a way that would advance her husband. she was charming and everybody loved her, despite the no alcohol. she was able to do things in a way that made him seem approachable and ethical and blunt. >> she was the first first lady to have have a college degree, and this was a

it made up something that the white house supposedly did, that the white house did not do. and they shot that false report to abc news and abc news bought it hook, line and sinker and published it as an exclusive and all of the beltway media and everyone under politics jumped. because now this finally seemed like a scandal. oh, that's what the right has been so upset about. but the scandal is part of it. this idea that the white house got in right after the benghazi attacks happened and started big footing the whole process to make sure that state department would look good. that's the scandal. that's what was supposedly this big bomb shell that abc broke on friday. that scandal that white house weighed in, in the talking points, to make the state department look good, that did not happen. that only happened in the cooked up dossier that republicans in congress wrote themselves, that they said was the work of the white house, and then they shocked it to the press. and yeah, part of the scandal here is a press scandal. you know what, when you get used like this and you publi

of the recent you would be at the white house? >> the easter egg roll with my kids. >> well, mr. shulman, you know what you can do with your easter egg hunt. you must explain under oath what you were doing at the white house on 157 separate occasions. while many americans don't seem to understand the seriousness of the irs situation. those who love the country do. you cannot have an agency that has the power to put americans in prison to take their plon to literally ruin their lives. persecuting people for political reasons. that's what they do in china. that's what they do in cuba. we do not do that here. the president of the united states should explain tomorrow what mr. shulman was doing at the white house all those times. and any federal employee involved in helping that man shulman target americans should be immediately fired and prosecuted. talking points also calls upon the democratic party to stop the nonsense. this is serious business. there is no way on earth this shulman should not have to explain in detail what he did

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the white house? everything that happened today. >> the president said he was outraged last week by the irs scandal. is he outraged then that lois lerner is taking the fifth? >> bill: white house pounded over the irs scandal. we will show you what happened to jay carney. >> i don't think obama had anything to do with it you know, maybe he didn't. sometimes things go wrong. >> bi

55% said no, the white house did not order it.se in combination, i want to ask you what your answer to those questions are. number one, i know you do believe that the white house deliberately misled americans on benghazi. >> well, you know, i think what's more important than either whether i believe that or whether the polls show that, it's that somebody be held accountable. and not so much for the talking points afterwards. i think there was some misdirection and some political nature to the talking points, but i think that's always missed the point that what's most important is someone made a decision to put an embassy and consulate in a war-torn country with no host country to guard that embassy or consulate, leaving the guarding and security up to a militia. that decision alone was a terrible and tragic error. and that's what needs to change. the review board looked at benghazi, but still no one is saying what i keep saying over and over again even now i think the embassy in tripoli should be under the guard of military comman

- >> -- no, first of all they weren't under the direction of the white house.nly -- this process as everybody is an equal player in this process said, everybody's concerns have to be listened to and taken into account. >> all right. so, you didn't get anything. you got no admission. you and the other white house correspondence of any wrongdoing at all so they're basically saying, look, what we did was responsible, methodical. we took it easy. what is the big deal? it's the republicans who are driving. this and your response to that would be? >> well, look, there is a clear problem here what we heard from the white house in november. neither the white house nor the state department made anything beyond stylistic changes. they said there was a single word change. what we have now seen clearly is that there were dramatic changes to these talking points and that they were done after the state department had raised objections and the white house instructed that those objections be taken into account. >> bill: carney is not ceeding that. he is not going to give that

she's over at the white house.esident's done, we'll get reaction from congressman darrell issa. here's the president. >> good afternoon, everybody. i just finished speaking with secretary lew and senior officials at the treasury department to discuss the investigation into irs personnel who improperly screened conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status. i look forward to taking some questions at tomorrow's press conference, but today i wanted to make sure to get out to all of you some information about what we're doing about this, and where we go from here. i've reviewed the treasury department watchdog's report, and the misconduct that it uncovered is inexcusable. it's inexcusable, and americans have a right to be angry about it, and i am angry about it. i will not tolerate this kind of behavior in any agency, but especially in the irs. given the power that it has, and the reach that it has in all of our lives. and as i said earlier, it should not matter what political stripe you're from, the fact of the m

the white house asked chuck schumer to reintroduce the shield back to limit the white house ability to interfere with news organizations or make reporters reveal their sources and today we found out about the attorney general does not know and varied little about what he does during testimony in front of the house judiciary committee. >> one of the compelling process from a media outlet is to give notice do you know, why that was not done ? >> there are exceptions to the rule i do not know with regard to this particular case why that was or was not done. i don't have a factual basis for that queetion. >> over the course of 24 hours obama masters lead changed its tune while trying to turn the direction of the threat that the scandals pose to the presidency. now to the benghazi e-mail's the white house had more than 100 pages of the males for the talking point* on did deadly attack and the document uniquely timed with the president's actions on the irs and for much more reid turn to fox business washington correspondent peter barnes. >> the white house and cia e-mail show how they came u

i didn't hear the white guy or the white. who i would just only hear if it reflected people of color. it's such a pleasure to be on with you and i'm looking at you and saying, yay, you, and i'm going to get the book for my nieces and nephews, thank you. >> guest: thank you so muff. >> host: before you respond i want to include sharon's comment on facebook because you mentioned it and a couple caller asked viewerrers mentioned it. please give more thoughts on the current slap from the bombing photos, dark-kinked man, even when said with obviousey hesitance sis their used as striptors to give an accurate identity but are immediately followed with the disclaimer about, nothing racial or ethnic intended. >> guest: well, i call it the cable news two-step. what they do is they say, now, we're not speculating here, and then they go on and speculate. what they did with that description was, john king from cnn said, i know people will find this sensitive but i'm going to good ahead on and say this incredibly inaccurate and vague descr

it is important to know the most damaging story for the white house or the president is that the white house or the president was involved in the criteria for targeting these conservatives, sounding organizations for tax exempt status. the white house went out of its way to say we had no association. the president had no association. what has been problematic for them is the story about who knew what about when regarding that inspector general's report. it has taken the white house several days and has taken them several stories which has gone to their credibility. as we saw in the clip from white house press take carney. it seemed they got their story straight. it remains to be seen if it stays that way. >> how do you recapture the credibility. the irs story will be with us for months to come. >> the white house is hoping as long as it gount to the president or seen that the white house was doing this for political reasons that this is a story that will eventually go away but it has been rocky and messy and public relations mess. >> can we talk about anthony weiner shaking hands as he

. >> well is gossip and angst with the staffers in the white house.is up to the chief of staff and i think he is doing a good job at this. keep the staff focused and not distracted by the investigations that are taking place. but he has the responsibility to make sure everyone cooperates with the investigations consistent with the separation of powers article 1 and 2 and that is up to the white house counsel to offer guidance to that. it is a tense time. there is a lot of rumors and innuendo and coffee talk. but they should focus on their job. the president has 24 two- year terms. and the responsibility. >> let me jump in. >> i hear you and let me ask you in the short time we have left. we hear over and over again, that the president learned about the irs scandal from the news report and didn't know about the justice department probe on the ap and the cover up with the y soy -- cia and doesn't this raise questions about his comp tense in leadership. >> it raises questions for me certainly. i suspect they anyhow -- about all of those things. they would

the white house put an end to the e-mail chain. none of that is on the record or in print. >> chuck todd at the white house on a friday night. chuck, thanks. we want to let you know there will be much more on all of this -- benghazi in particular -- on "meet the press" this sunday morning. david gregory's guests include darrell issa and dianne feinstein sunday on this nbc station. >>> in bangladesh an incredible ray of hope 17 days after a building collapse left more than a thousand garment workers dead. just about everybody had given up hope that anyone else would be found alive there. but today in the ruins of one of the worst industrial accidents in history, it happened. nbc's ian williams has our story. >> reporter: it was a stunning moment. a young woman pulled alive from the rubble after more than two weeks. the day began much differently with the grim work of recovering the dead. more than a thousand as of this morning. then workers heard tapping on a steel pipe and a faint cry. "i'm alive, please save me." bulldozers and he

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and they'll never win the white house.on't win the white house for several elections because again, it's an ex-stensial crisis. >> they get a chance to augment the bill if they can convince a majority of their colleagues to enter an amendment or what have you. i think that could be a process by which it gives the right some ability to blow off some steam without killing the bill. but look, exhibit a in this is somebody like lindsay graham. you know, i don't doubt that lindsay graham is upset by benghazi. i think lindsay graham clears his schedule to be on fox to talk about benghazi, because when he can't clear his schedule, he's in the judiciary committee doing immigration reform. there's nothing, a challenge from the right in south carolina would be a pretty tough thing for lindsay graham to overcome. and i'm sure luke would see this, too. the members in the house are not worried about a democrat taking their seat from the republican side. thatter worried about a primary challenge from the right. how can they howl at the

now that helps the white house. on the flip side, there is still fodder in all these e-mails for the critics. for example, there is an e-mail as i first reported on friday that the state department took issue with the fact that the attack was blamed on an al qaeda affiliate. state department did not want that out. and that came out of the final version of the talking points. no doubt critics will hold that up to say that was politically motivated. now i should point out that cia director, we're told, the cia deputy director agreed with that change. so bottom line, erin, there's plenty in these e-mails for both sides to make their case which means this issue isn't going to go away any time soon. >> no, absolutely. and, of course, john boehner has already requested more data. on that note, dana, speaker boehner's office, i'm just looking at the note here from a spokesman brendan buck that we received, right, saying we hope this limited release of documents is a sign of more cooperation to come. they want a lot more in

then the white church. it's as if we are meeting king ai in. anew. we're not really. it's the king who many african-americans who knew him from the mass meetings and preaching knew. the ambassador of brotherhood turns out to be not just a dreamer, but a christian warrior. he did not think that many whites had much empathy or willingness to act on that empathy for black people. he wasn't naive about the power of moral appeal to change white hearts without protest, without nonviolent demonstrations, without pressure. i should have realized, he says -- i'm quoting begun, because it's so important -- again, because it's so important to understand that few members of the the oppressive race can understand the deep groans. there's a sociological language of presser and oppressed, but exodus looms here. you can sense the controlled anger roiling close to the surface. he says for years now i have heard the word "wait," it rings in the ear of every negro with piercing familiarity. king is now speaking not under, as

jay leno has that answer. >> the white house -- the white house has admitted that president obama's chief was targeting conservative groups but never told the president. president obama says the first time he heard about the irs scandal, and the ap phone records scandal, first time he heard about it was from the media. that's why president obama holds press conferences, not to explain what is going on, to find out a

house officials before what the white house is saying?we don't know the answer to that. this is just the beginning of this investigation. remember the inspector just did an audit, not an investigation, like emails and things like that. the inspector general told us at the hearing they're in the midst of an investigation. what we received the other day is an audit which revealed they misled congress, targeting people and their political beliefs. we have credible evidence that donors were harassed and intimidated. the point is we don't know the answer to that. >> chris: what's the difference between an audit and an investigation? what are you saying they've done, what are you saying they haven't done? >> an audit is a measurement of behavior, what actually occurred. an investigation, they didn't look at emails, didn't look at intent, who was in the chain of information. so none of that information has been acquired yet. that's what the ig is doing now. that's what our congressional overseers are doing now as well. all we have is a simple au

he came to the white house once and it was in december 2008.ief of staff, he was a political appointee and got a chance to meet with president bush. the reason he was appointee, five-year term. they cross terms of presidents. there was a requirement by the senate democrats there has to be somebody there. >> bob: democratic too. >> dana: but not a bush appointee so the question is, if you go to the white house 157 times and 50% of those meetings are talking about obamacare, what do you think america is thinking that the other 50% of the meetings. easter egg roll comes around once a year. >> andrea: although, i will on this one, it's very odd. double the amount of time than hillary clinton came to the white house. without everybody saying nobody knewing in nig about benghazi it's believable. healthcare is such a mess and first time that any agency is undertaking this effort to make certain tax papers and guidelines for every individual. i can see see how there would be a lot of meetings. this seems uncharacteristic. the lawsuits that jay seculo h

now the white house is firing back. jay carney reporting that they fabricated e-mails to make it look like they had change e-mails. the republicans then leaked those fake e-mails to the press. oh, a real scandal within a fake scandal. this won't create jobs, save the environment, but at least its entertaining. joining me now from washington, d.c. eleanor clift from the daily beast. welcome to "the war room." >> thank you. i really enjoy your set up. i'm sitting here chuckling. >> michael: we had a good time. hour producer was writing it all day long. will the ap get more traction, is there more there, there as the president would say. >> the ap story hits home with reporters, and jay carney, of course is a former newsmagazine reporter. everybody is afraid of the chilling affect of having the government engage in this intrusive behavior. it seems to me withholder having stepped aside and they apparently fingered the deputy who gave this order and he'll be on the hot seat. i think holder is a short termer any way. i don't