telling the rich stories of white house history has been the mission of the white house historical association since we were founded in 1961 by first lady jacqueline kennedy. it was her vision that at the young age of 31 to create an organization that would provide non-taxed by your funding to maintain the museum stand him off the house, which had been somewhat neglected through presidencies leading up to the kennedys. although the association has developed and expanded over the past 60 years, it's a mission established by mrs. kennedy still guides our work and our offerings, earlier this month in the south of the time -- in new york. the evening featured powerful and poignant remarks from first lady of the united states, dr. jill biden, ambassador caroline kennedy, david rubenstein, chairman of our board, fred ryan and vice chair john rogers, and all worker served as a master of ceremonies for the evening. we've had performances from the great coat five foot five and drum court, metropolitan opera soprano brandi sutton, and the nyu start school, which we have a new partnership with, provided

and he wants that message to get out to white northerners, because he knows that there are a lot of whiteerners who are not going to support emancipation, he knows there are a lot of white northerners, irish immigrants, midwestern folks, who are going to be concerned that if he frees the slaves, there's going to be an influx of black labor and that's going to drive down prices, labor prices, wages and it's going to cause unemployment among white people. so, lincoln is essentially trying to say to that white electorate, you don't have to be too worried about emancipation when it comes, because i'm pushing colonization too. it's really important to realize this was not forced deportation. for lincoln, this was always voluntary. and so, he calls these men in and he tries to persuade them, convince your people to go somewhere else. he's never saying, you have to get out of the country. but, that said, it's a stain on his record. it doesn't look good, he's condescending when he talks to them. now, that said, i want to say a couple things about how it was perceived at the time. >> i wanted to h

stay at the white house overnight. for political reasons one he was married to a white woman and two he was african-american and jfk worried about the political implications of having sammy davis jr. this great celebrity stay at the white house. so it's a story. it's a it's a it's a long story that has major implications and the lincoln assassination changes. i think they're the trajectory of that story and you know, i don't do counterfactuals and i don't know what would have been different it had lincoln lived, but what i do try to show is that for a brief period for four years the white house is different than it was before and it's different than it would be for a long time after

yeah, which is about the white house gardens in the white house grounds. it's really an extraordinary issue. so thank you all for coming. have a safe travel home. i hope you all are having a good time. we'll start our second panel today. first i want

this tribute focuses on the white house -- the white house itself is situated on top of the hill, and just like capitol hill, there's literally a physical hill underneath the white house. the white house looks down in historical time on swampy land historical time on swampy land i like to call it the three bs, bare, bleak and brown. when john adams moved in in 1800. and the period accounts go on to state visitors from that time described as, i believe the it was a barren, stony, unfenced waste. it was not a great looking place simply because it was a construction site for so many years -- >> well, but the world was used to the european standard of fabulous palaces and manicured gardens. and europe, which had been around for centuries building up its public places, it sounds to me like the early white house is what george washington would have wanted, something simple. an executive mansion, not a sounds to me like the early white house with something like george washington would've wanted. and executive mansion, not a palace. >> that is absolutely correct, that is a good point especial

talking to white people who want to end white supremacy. they're not doing it the way white people doing it and hashtaging it. they're protesting at a nazi tattoo shop. i'm going to get tattooed by nazis. ♪ ♪ >>> what can i do? now that's a question i hear a lot from people in my travels during these hectic times, but if i'm honest, it's really a question i mostly hear from white people. specifically meaning white liberal people. black people don't ask for a way to help, we always ask for a better place while also asking for a way to make it through the day. some white people are starting to realize, no, things are pretty f'd, and those have taken to protesting, hashtaging, and a little -- but some white people are second amendmenting. specifically these white people, not to be confused with these white people. these are the red neck revolt. they're actually red necks revolting against the red necks who are revolting against equal. i'll explain. the red neck revolt was founded in 2009 in kansas and colorado as an armed community of defense,

yeah, which is about the white house gardens in the white house grounds. it's really an extraordinary issue. so thank you all for coming. have a safe travel home. i hope you all are having a good time. we'll start our second panel today. first i want to introduce the moderator our very own colleen shogun. who is the senior vice president at the david m rubinstein national center for white house history of the white house historical association? dr. shogun is

kennedy's influence on the white house and her role establishing the white house historical associationmission of the association is housed in the david m. rubenstein national center for white house history. so it is no surprise that our wonderful friend, david rubenstein, was a featured part of the gala's program. everybody in the room was moved by mr. reuben stone's powerful and poignant remarks as he spoke passionately about why the mission and work of the white house historical association is important to support. >> the white house that we know is much different than that one that was originally designed. that the one that was originally designed was much smaller in many ways, as many of you may know, it's changed over the years and in fact, at one point it was so dilapidated and falling apart that it was completely gutted, completely gutted, when harry treatment was president, and they started all over again keeping the outside. but the inside of the white house really needed a lot of work, and jacqueline kennedy really made that possible by the extraordinary effort she made to in

how do you make the white house, how do you make the white house accessible to the people? she looked for different ways to say who is being excluded. one thing she was -- she felt there were all these people living in washington dc and they passed the white house every day and they never saw it so she had eliminated. in 1970, the white house was eliminated for the first time in the evening. then they opened up so the working people could come and visit the white house. this is misses nixon leading one of the tours. she also revived of pre-world war ii event by opening it for one weekend in the spring and fall. it had been closed since pearl harbor. she revised the tradition in 1973. as you had seen in the previous pictures, misses nixon was very interested in trying to make children feel at home, to make for undignified -- dignitaries at home. we can't see the tour guides, but she is speaking to a group of tour guides. she was insistent that one of the things that the tour guides had to do was make sure that they spoke facing the people that the tours that they were leadin

in the white house it is different, on the white house grounds it is different. the entire 200 plus odd area. there are very few places in the nation that you can say that about. even more significant to me is the period of significance is open-ended. simply because it is the white house, whatever happens tomorrow or next week, or next month or next year is going to be historically significant. >> can i tell you one little story that affected me? it has to do with the beautiful jackson magnolias, which are how old now? >> if you believe the story associated with them, they were planted by andrew jackson sometime around 1828. >> they are gigantic, what we see close-up is there are huge metal poles going up the entire length, they are wired together because the president's marine one helicopter comes out of the downdraft, beats against them. one morning, i got a call from the abc news desk at about 1:10 in the morning and they said a plane has crashed into the white house. get there quick, i got there, turns out it was a tiny ultralight plane. a kook had tried to l

the white house?eory of restoration and preservation, is that by restoring and preserving the past we can make certain that we don't make that were made in the past and we can learn and do better citizens for the future. that's the whole theory of history why we study history. it's to learn from the past make certainly don't make the same mistakes and do better at going forward. now the human brain has not yet evolved such that when you see a picture of the white house or a picture of any historic building, it's the same as actually visiting it you can look at the picture of the white house and get some sense of what it's all about, but it's not the same as a visiting it and therefore if you preserve it more people want to visit it what people want to see what this white house is about and therefore our citizens flock to see it all the time and they should and it's possible to make this white house better because we can provide the resources through the white house historical association to make the w

it's the newest issue of our white house quarterly. >> which is about the white house garden the white house grounds. it's really an extraordinary issue. so, thank you all for coming, have a safe travel home! [applause]

i'm glad you mentioned mckinney white. when miss kennedy started her project she's got to be very focused on 1802, the earliest period of the white house occupancy in the furnishings of monroe. it was really mr. dupont who encouraged her to look beyond that to the full breadth of the history of the white house. remember, she came upon at herself when she started understanding the architecture of these, rooms which were created in 1902 by mick can meet and white. she came to an appreciation of that period of architecture, which i think played into her position of those buildings in new york city later on. but she was a master diplomat for dealing with all those personalities for someone so young. >> hi, i'm lindsay carpenter from the -- museum. as a young professional female in the field, i was wondering what advice would have for my generation to continue the work that you have all done? what you're hoping for, something's during this time period in your professional development what you did that you wished to continue. th

it's the newest issue of our white house quarterly. >> which is about the white house garden the white house grounds. it's really an extraordinary issue. so, thank you all for coming, have a safe travel home! [applause] we continue now the white house historical association's discussion on the presidency and historic preservation. i've, next the contributions of women in preserving the white house and other presidential sites. >> i hope you are having a good time. we will start our

from the trump white house felt? >> i i haven't spent that much time in the biden white house but i got some more questions about this. i will say i think it's hard, it's just as hard to cover trump as it is to cover biden. people think in a way like covering trump is kind of this easy pickings, there's so many things, details to learn and things to collect but the problem with covering trump was that so much of it wasn't reliable or coming from reliable narrators here. i mentioned my kind of long newspaper career, whether it was any of these county commission meeting for school board meetings or state legislative committee hearings, like never have been anywhere except the trump white house where eight people could go into a meeting and 12 versions of that what happened in that meeting emerged afterwards. to understand what is happening behind the scenes you needed to talk to almost everybody who was in the room to have an understanding of what happened. there were so many rivalries, so many, i mean trump came up in

but the white workers, the white miners, wanted to have a strike. and the chinese didn't. so, that's a difference of opinion. but it erupted into a full scale riot. in which they burned down china town, they went through the minds and through the encampments and murder -- they drag them out and beat them to death, so there were quite a few chinese who died through that. >> they killed 28 chinese laborers. you also mentioned, in your book, i don't have a slide -- at hells canyon in oregon -- >> oh my gosh, yes. they threw people in the river. >> 34 chinese gold miners were killed and their bodies were thrown into the snake river. this is the los angeles massacre of 1871, believed to be the largest mass lynching in american history. 17 chinese men and boys hanged. a lithograph from the 18 80s shows the attitude. and i added this slide. this is seattle in 1886. and rioters literally rounded up 350 chinese, took them down to the warf, put them on a steam ship to literally send them back to china. they only had enough money to pay for 97 fares. they couldn't pay for everyone. b

the white house historical association? dr. shogun is a trained political scientist with a phd in american politics from yale university as well as a bachelor's degree in political science from boston college. she has almost 15 years of service in the federal government including prominent roles with the us senate as well as the library of congress, dr. shogun teaches government students at georgetown university and served as vice chair of the women's suffrage centennial commission. another feather in her cap in an illustrious resume is that she currently serves as a co-chair of the board of directors at the women's suffrage national monument foundation designated by the congress to build the first memorial in dc dedicated to the history of the movement for women's equality. it's a huge deal. to begin with our panelists we have elaine rice bachmann, who is the state archivist of maryland and a co-author of a wonderful book designing camelot published by the white house historical association, and i'm proud to say it was lau

inside the white house jared keeps completely out of the white house. killing on conway at first female manager to win the presidential race in the nation's history. she never quite get that do. steve bannon articulates a trump -ism night no encounter has since then. i might be thebe only person frm the get go but trump's reelection. everyone else seemed to have the reasons for to be around trump. he gets this backstabbing ultimately does himself in a couple of different times. >> it gets connected to this but just briefly why it was the incumbent president, donald trump reelection campaign such a huge meaningless shambles? as i read the book they found it impossible to articulate, to put into words what they were standing for and what they wanted more of. what they wanted to continue. it seemed to me that people around trump and trump had so much trump grappling with the historical venture on which they were embarked and had been for four years. they did not know right until the end what they were campaigning on and for be on donald trump and let's all

with white house counsel, lawyers, and mr. tony arnoldo, who served as the white house deputy chief of staff. she also worked on a daily basis with members of the secret service posted in the white house. in short, she was in a position to know a great deal about the happenings in the trump white house. she has already set for for videotape interviews with committee investigators and we thank her very much for her cooperation and for her courage. we will cover certain but not all relevant topics within our knowledge today. our future hearings will supply greater detail, putting the testimony today in a broader and more complete context. today you will hear her relate certain first-hand observations of his conduct on january 6. you will also hear new information regarding the actions and statements of mr. trump's senior advisor's that day. including his chief of staff mark meadows and white house counsel. we will begin to examine evidence bearing on what president trump and members of the white house staff knew about the prospe

and the panthers with their guns sent a shockwave through white america. and this was where you get this narrative. this bifurcated narrative that had martin luther king and as nonviolence but remember the violence that the state, remember because what they were doing was disrupting a power structure. that was seen as violent. but it was a way to try and pick these two against each other. king was doing it the right way and the panthers were doing it the wrong way . but when you think about the violence that the civil rights movement faced here in the south, it was seen as doing it the wrong way because they weren't being violent and accepting jim crow. >> i've had a few conversations with the film judas and the black messiah came out about fred hampton and some of the things around there and it's been so interesting that so many young people don't have any real awareness of the black panther party. and how much of that conversation, how unique it was in that moment to have something like that happen. i think it's what dated in people's minds that that pot

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but it's only for white people, really, for heterosexual, white, male and white women who are their allies, who believe in that stuff. and that is to the detriment to their of the rest of us. that's really what this is about. and again, think we need to be very clear. i think the thing that i said, black folks, because things like will increase ultimately distraction. you know, i'm saying that's what it is. is that the real problem for me is three, three levels of the fight. as far as i'm concerned, the struggles we call it. one is the fight against all systems of oppression. that's number one. are you what are you doing to fight back any kind of hatred, marginalization, oppression in this country, on this planet. the second struggle, which is what people are talking about in the chat, which i love the audience is what are we going to talk about internally with black folks? hey, black people, what are we doing here? and what i'm saying to y'all as someone who has evolved in a lot of ways, as karen said, and i'm still a work in progress like we all are i realize i can't just fight racism if

chinese could not testify in court against a white person for they could not why marry a white person. those restrictions did not exist and australia. so and australia you had some instances of chinese weren't marrying white usually irish but also some english women, having children. that was a kind of, i do not want to say assimilation but a settlement that promoted because then they would raise families, they pay taxes. so you have a different kind of chinese/strength community that grows up because you have a somewhat more inclusion for a quick some of the chinese men married white women and australia. >> rate. >> you mention the chinese not being permitted to testify against whites. there were actually a couple of cases that went up to the california supreme court. one, a white defendant assaulted a chinese victim. in the chinese victim was not permitted to testify against the crime committed against them. so the white defendant got off and that was upheld by the california supreme court. some years later a black defendant came along and said it is a violation of equal protection

i think it's the responsibility of white people to educate white people. i don't -- i do think though it is important for me as a scholar and a writer to put out literature that allows people who are taking that responsibility. blackr they're white or or any other race for them to gain more clarity on what racism is on how they can sort of challenge it. for me, if i was to say it's my responsibility or if i was to say it's black people's responsibility to educate white people about racism, then what i'm alsoo saying is that if whie people are not educated aboutpe racism, it's black people's fault. it's my fault, and i don't see that as a fault. i've never seen it as a fault. that's one of the earliest, i remember i was there as a historian in the 1790s, white abolitionists started entering into free black communities and basically saying to free black people that it was their responsibility to act in an upstanding manner, to persuade away white racist ideas, which those white abolitionists stated were the foundation of slavery. not capitalism, not making m

ethnics into whiteness because that was the only way you are going to maintain white supre. white superiority in american society and so, you know those greeks and you know, irish and italians whoever who accepted that invitation to whiteness through no fault of their own, but actually participate in the continuing subjugation of african americans of asian americans and latin americans thereafter, which is very much a sort of, you know strategy for maintaining, you know, white control of the us that had been there since its history and so, you know time will tell whether that happens again with the integration of either hispanics as we were just discussing or also people have mixed race backgrounds, right? in fact, that's actually where i wanted to go to next is i wanted you to talk a little bit about this other element of the demography of the country the growing number of people who are either marrying somebody who's not of the same race or ethnicity and also children who are the children of parents who are two different races are ethnicities what is happening in terms of

about the white house garden the white house grounds. it's really an extraordinary issue. so, thank you all for coming, have a safe travel home! [applause] we continue now at the white house historical association's discussion on the presidency and historic preservation. up next, the contribution of women in preserving the white house and other presidential sites. >> i hope you are having a good time. we will start our second panel today. first, i want to introduce the moderator, our very own colleen shogan. who is a senior vice president at the david m. rubenstein national center for national history of the white house historical association. doctor shogan is a trained political scientist, with a ph. d. in american politics from yale university, as well as a bachelors degree in political science from boston college. she has almost 15 years of service and the federal government, including prominent roles with the u.s. senate as well as the library of congress. doctor shogan teaches government students at georgetown university and served as vice chair of the women suffrage

you cannot say anything about a black person shooting a white cop. but if a white cop shoots a black guy, it is all across the nation. host: professor greer? guest: i think there have been three officers shot on duty and it has been a resounding response by black leaders and black community members who said this is not something we would ever condone. the framing of that question is somewhat problematic and definitely incorrect. what is important to remember is when we think about the george floyd thing, this is not just an isolated incident. this is a systemic problem black people have been talking about for decades if not centuries. the institution of police when they do not treat the same people with respect. we saw this a few months ago in buffalo where a white perpetrator can go into a grocery store, kill several individuals, and walk out relatively unscathed. we have seen this time and again with white perpetrators and not black people just driving their cars or minding their business. the idea of the republican talking point of black people ar

she didn't like the idea of redecorating the white house a lot of people say dolly redecorated the white house, but what she did was restructure it in a way that mrs. kennedy would have proved by this is amazing that before dolly's white house, which is called the executive mansion and it would only be during her tenure where it would get that familiar loving nickname the white house there was no place in the in the capital city where all the men of government could get together. let alone their families let alone visiting diplomats. let alone visiting americans let alone anybody it was so what dolly did was she took that executive mansion and she turned it in to a center for entertaining where everybody in town would show up and they did and she threw weekly parties and they were as regular and as grueling as they sound but they became an independent and indispensable part of the washington political machine. and it's in those parties. i can tend that these people learn to work together in a bipartisan ways going towards something they didn't even know is going to happen, which is that

and the trump white house felt? . i haven't spent that much time in the biden white house, but i've got some more questions about this and i think that it's-- i think it's hard-- it's just as hard to cover trump as it is to cover biden. people think in a way that it was, by covering trump was easy pickings and there's so much, so many things, you know, to details to learn and to collect. the problem with covering trump so much of it wasn't reliable or coming from reliable narrators here. i mentioned my kind of long newspaper career. whether it was any of these county commission meetings or school board meetings or you know, state legislative committee hearings, never have i been anywhere where-- except the trump white house, eight people go into a meeting and 12 versions of what happened in the meeting emerged afterwards. i mean, to understand what was happening behind the scenes, you needed to talk to almost everybody who was in the room to have an understanding of what happened because there were so many rivalries

white revolution is the only solution. others realize that police would be standing in the way of their effort to overturn the election. so, one wrote, i'm ready to die for my beliefs, are you ready to die, police? another wrote on the donald dot win, cops don't have standing if they are laying on the ground in a pool of their own blood. donald dot wind was an openly racist and antisemitic forum. the select committee deposed that cites founder, jody williams. he confirmed how the president's tweet created a laser-like focus on the date of january the 6th. >> people have been talking about going to d.c. since the election was over. >> do you recall whether or not the conversation around those dates centered on the sixth, after the president's tweet? >> oh, sure. after it was announced that he was going to be there on the six to talk then yes, anything else was shut out and it was just going to be on the sixth. >> okay. and that was pretty clearly reflected in the content on the site? >> yeah, sure. >> on that site, many sha

you know, white what do white people thinking and and white attitudes white ignorant he talked about the ghetto of our ignorant and backlash, you know this kind of supporting politicians who play on those fears and resentments and so there was a cover story and look here. he is in bedside. just put that up there because i mentioned that that picture but this article suppose god is black. front page on life magazine where the popular magazines like people magazine today. suppose god is black by robert kennedy and then you went inside the magazine and he was writing about his trip to south africa and this exchange he had with an africana who justified apartheid talking about the bible and this is what he said, but suppose god is black. what if we go to heaven and we all alive so treated the -- and inferior and god is there and we look up and he's not white. what is our response then? okay, and that sort of comment in the summer of black power provided a different angle of vision? third successive wave of urban uprisings raising from a ranging from omaha, nebraska, des moines, iowa to c

the white is a very real one. this is reflected by the fact that lawmakers themselves have given some thought as to what they would do. were they to become acting president. question for the public to consider is does having lawmakers in the line of succession manifest most sensual sensible approach for addressing executive succession inability? now, let me turn matters over to dr. fence. thank you so much reb and a real big. thanks to dean ferrick and john rogan for having me on the panel as a physician. i feel a little bit out of place, but i really am honored to be with you and as a position, we don't go anywhere without our slides so i'm gonna share some slides because my verbal abilities are not as keen as my lawyer friends my legal colleagues, so i'm gonna talk about the carl albert experience and and bipartisanship and the dual vacancies that happened during the watergate era and i think it it's relevant and a lot of interesting primary sources. i'll share that i think speak to the issues that we've already

white pe killed by white people. but we don't have the narrative of white on white crime. why is that? sometimes we have to ask the next question. and what you also have is you have washington, d.c. and chicago have implemented gun safety laws to try to deal with the homicide rates in those cities. you have the u.s. supreme court, first in the heller decision, then in the mcdonald decision, undermine those safety laws. and he sought guns flooding in to those communities again. this is why, after uvalde, while you have governor abbott talking about, but what about chicago? because that becomes the kind of trope of black violence that gets deployed consistently by republicans. host: text message from kelvin in baltimore. "good afternoon. how does the evangelical right play a part in fueling our divide in our society, presumably, or presently, and its influence in the supreme court, i.e. the federalist society?" prof. anderson: the role of white evangelical christianity is powerful. it really became a force i want to say in the 1970's and really took hold in the 1980's and ha

the white house campus.the next point i'm grateful to rep for this is that the pace of transition, you have a slow burn with the political standard, the sorenson letter was november of the nixon resignation is august, compared to the rapid explosion of problems with a biological arm online threat, you're not gonna have time to write a memo. the odds of a dual vacancy are quite high to -- and i think everybody was right, you are gonna have partisan litigation about the eligibility of the speaker as a officer or member of the house, which is gonna lead to a tremendous amount of instability during a crisis. so, my final point, okay? my and albert instinctive wary of the presidency moving to the parties opposite -- aristotle would counter guys their concerns as a virtuous, practical wisdom. losing both the president and vice president in the dual vacancy is a national trauma. switching parties would seem to confound that and i think it's something to be avoided. so, i think we need, as many of the other scholars

and over 80% of whites are killed by whites. what we don't get when we are talking about all of this black crime, that is the narrative of black pathology, that is the notice of antiblackness that i laid out in the second, because what it is saying is blacks are inherently violent, they are inherently criminal, so therefore we must have, we being the white community, must have protection against this source of incredible instability and violence in american society. now, but we don't get to are those issues of watching what happens when our schools are devalued and defunded, what happens when jobs go away, what happens when we have this massive, massive discrimination happening in our employment processes, and there's incredible research out there that shows that, if you have a racially identifiable name, but the qualifications are the same as someone who does not have a racially identifiable name, for instance, cindy, jackson has a -- sheniqua jackson has a resume at a city jones has a resume, sheniqua will have to send in mult

justice susan knew it would be, and the call came from the white house. but unfortunately, the call came in on our private, childproof line, which had no extensions. and by child proof, i mean that it came with a, kind of, death threat to any child that tried to use it. under the circumstances, susan naturally sprinted upstairs to the phone and called her father, and then things began to get really confused. president nixon told jerry, he wanted to speak to both of us, and as my husband, asked to please pick up the extension. that is the nonexistent childproof extension. attempting to remain cool and controlled, jerry explained that problem, and he said, you know, to the president, please, can you call back, giving him our phone number. [laughs] then, he hung up. he came back downstairs, and said, you know, president nixon is going to call back because he wants to also have you on the phone when he speaks to me. we waited what's seems like an eternity. to this day, i wonder what we had done if the other phone hadn't run a few minutes later. i often wonder

and i said white is a race isn't?i've written books about being l college basketball coach withoue being impaired i've written letter god knows i've never been on the pga tour. as it doug said, as i said in the book i do not pretend i know it's like to be black. i've never been pulled over for driving while black. when i pulled over too sue because i deserve it.in every single person i interviewed, and i got you'd be right in there jacob has been pulled over at some point for driving while black. and of course the exception to that story was the olympic swimmer who literally stopped by a cop while walking his dog. the cop was convinced he hadli somehow stolen the dog. and i said you're first guy i interviewed two is double for wdwb. walking dog while black. i went into the book knowing i cannot empathize with what it is like to be black but i can certainly sympathize of all the people i got to interview for this book. you'd be amazed the number of people, he probably wouldn't be amazed, many, many of the people i inte

okay, and we want you to feel welcome here at the white house. which really is as the admiral said it's the people's house. it belongs to all of us. so just remember that okay. and as the people's house, we believe the white house should be a place for learning and for sharing new and different ideas. sharing new forms of art and culture and history and different perspectives. we want you to visit and we want you to take advantage of these opportunities and maybe see something for yourselves that maybe you never thought you could do or be so i'm happy to welcome you here for our little black history month celebration. i'm glad you guys are here. so many milestones in black history have touched this very house. just to name a few. did you know that african-american slaves helped to build this house? you knew that? did you know that write upstairs in a bedroom called the lincoln bedroom president lincoln signed the emancipation proclamation that marked an important step forward and ending slavery. did you know that happened right here? you knew tha

you saw that embrace of white nationalism, white supremacy. and you saw because of the technology, the kind of police violence that rains down on black folks so you have african-americans doing what they have consistently done which is to say we have to defend ourselves in this society nobody's coming to help us. >> was this book you thought were right, something thatyou had thought about for quite a while and mark . >> no actually. it really was the killing of philando castile that did it. my body of work deals with civil rights. and when philando castile was gunned down by a police officer because he had a licensed weapon. that was why he was gunned down. land the nra, the national rifle association went virtually silent on this killing of a man simply because he had a gun. and so you had pundits asking don't african-americans have second amendment rights? and i went that is the right question. that is the question that i have not explored yet. so i went hunting and i went to the 17th century. i found this incredible fear of the enslaved and