view it -- one was nominated for four oscars and viola davis won for hers. >> i don't know how white america took this play. i don't know how white people read this play because i'm not. >> is it like for them or is it like -- >> one of the realities of american theater that we always have to deal with is this, if we look at the economic realities of black and white people in most rural -- most urban areas, like even here in new orleans. in new orleans more than 60% of the population is african-american. but 80 to 85 or higher percent of the wealth is owned by the white community. but that's a reality. great, so i have a theater company and i want my theater company to be financially successful. that means i've got to charge -- let's just -- i'll be conservative. let me say i had to charge $30 for a ticket, right? the largest portion of the population can't afford my $30 tickets. this past weekend i went and saw "raisin in the sun." it's $25 to get in and see it. there are groups of black people in new orleans that were like, you know what, if we're going to support a theater, we're going to

it's parts of white america who haven't integrated and been in touch with those people who represent l the unfamiliarity breeds the unsafety or fear. i think that's the aspect of white america that has to go. they have to stretch further to go to those uncomfortable places, just to see what these human beings are like. and, you know, that same compassion that you hold for your own, we got to hold it for those who don't live like us. and i'll say that to everybody. >> we recently recorded this as part of a longer mavericks interview with common using covid protocols, including tests for both of us. now beyond the civil rights discussion, common recounted his work with artists like john legend and kanye west, his view of rising artists like no name and megan the stallion. here are just a few more high points. >> my mother came to me and was like man, there are some good rappers out there this guy name naz. even if you're not in hip-hop, these guys translate it to being something really great for a generation that didn't even know them. hip-hop is so powerful in a way that can actually h

he held he may or may not have held animosity for white america, but white america isn't the central concern of his plays white people are not the central concern of his plays black lives black identity black. black existence gets moved to the center of his plays and his playwright. the pittsburgh cycle begins in a well. it's different. so he premiered with jitney. the first play he wrote was called jitney it premiered in 1982 the second play. he wrote was mile. rainey's black bottom. it was set in 1927, but it premiered in 1984. ma. rainey's black bottom is an amazing play it's a wonderful play that deals with i think five black musicians. and one black female singer named ma rainey black. she's do you guys know who big momma thornton is have you ever heard of big mama, thornton? okay, you should look up big mama thornton if you are just hanging out at your house listening doing homework. you might want to listen to big momma thornton. you could actually listen to ma rainey. you can go back and go. oh. mahraini is there are different type of singer. you will get nina simone, but nina

and created an astonishing moment of opening white america's eyes to black culture and black politics. on a show and on a time slot that was generally treated as a lighthearted prelude to bedtime. it seems to me only carson had the wisdom to appreciate how important that week was and the modesty to understand that he shouldn't be hosting the show when this message was being provided. years later whoopi goldberg viewed that programming as one of the key wake-up calls for white america what she said that show said. that those weeks were programming showed. we're here. we're americans were part of this country. we're not going anywhere. for those interested in this week there's a an nbc documentary called the sit-in that i would recommend. now carson didn't stop there 1968 was about to get much much worse. and carcin adjusted his programming in response to the tragic developments. martin luther king was slain in 1968 in april and carson the next night canceled the monologue and replaced it with the tribute to the slain civil rights leader. two months later. bobby. kennedy was killed. and

that is where we ought to be spending our time and energy instead of saying to black america, white americas you reparations and therefore you need to sit and wait for them to liberate you. nobody should do more for anybody than they are willing to do for themselves. that is the message that we are trying to communicate. host: i am going to go to john in herndon, virginia. an independent. caller: thank you for taking my call and god bless c-span. just a question for mr. woodson. i was curious to hear your thoughts about how significant of a role you think that the media has played in race relations, because what i have seen it seems to have been on the decline since the training -- 20th century. guest: the media has been complicit in convincing lack america that you are a victim. that it is amazing that when in the course of a year when a white police officer kills an unarmed black it is all over the media, it is treated as if it is a chronic situation, and at the same time they underreport or fail to report that hemorrhage that is going on in 34 cities. homicides are up 20% all over. it is

and now in the wake of a violent shooting, white america is still trying to deny our humanitd

and now in the wake of a violent shooting, white america is still trying to deny our humanity and existence. amy: protests condemning racism and hate crimes against asian americans continue following last week's deadly shootings in atlanta, where a 21-year-old white government attacked three asian-owned spas killing eight people, seven of them women, six of them of asian descent. we will speak to the pulitzer-prize winning vietmese-american writer viet thanh nguyen. >> asian americans as a whole have admittedly concluded of course this is that shooting driven by racism and -- deep-seated. none of this takes us by surprise. it is still deeply upsetting at the same time but we point to a very long history of a tight asian -- anti-asian violence that has extended as long as there have been asian immigrants and asian americans. amy: viet thanh nguyen will talk about the mass shooting in atlanta, the link between hate crimes and u.s. foreign policy, the plight of refugees, as well as his new novel "the committed," a sequel to his best-selling book "the sympathizer." all that and more, coming up.

and now in the wake of a violent shooting, white america is still trying to deny our humanity and

. >> dear white america, i've left earth. ts sick of your go back to africas as i am i don't see racism. his poetry conveys the frustration of black america. it is a recurring nightmare made worse with every protest following the death of another black person after an encounter with police. >> we did not ask to be part of your america. are we not america? i am sick of standing this ground. i will not call your recklessness the law. >> what does black exhaustion mean to you? >> black exhaustion for me is the tiredness you feel when the answer feel so simple and right there. and your country has a long history of pretending like it does not exist. it seems to me like america's new project is to always keep black liberation in the future. >> thiis kind of like ground zero of where all the protests turned into the uprising and turned into destruction. >> local activists and a filmmaker has lived through and documented many disappointments for this community. >> we have been here before. we have been here where police have been cha

we got one for black america and one for white america. >> some grand jury members say the kentucky attorney general never presented homicide as a charge to consider. they're now seeking to impeach him for breach of public trust. >>> to the south bay now where san jose police say the driver of this truck here survived after crashing during a side show. the driver flipped the truck last night during that side show. police say that wasn't the only one. they also broke up another large side show in the area of blanchard and monterey road. 125 citations were issued and five vehicles impounded. >>> twin peaks in san francisco has partially reopened to car traffic and people are certainly taking advantage of the recent changes. the portola gate has been reopened allowing for cars to drive up to the peak. it was shut down last year, as you can imagine, because of the pandemic. however, karak ecar access to t will be limited. the northern bar net avenue gate will be closed to vehicles at all times, allowing people jogging, biking and hiking a car free safe space. >>> still to come at 5:00, a st. pat

we got two justice systems in america, one for white america and one for black america. we can't have that. i think today is definitely the starting point. it's change that's long overdue in this country. this can go all the way back to rodney king. as my uncle said, a blind man can see this. a blind man could see that's murder. despite anything they say about my uncle, that was murder. so either they weren't trained or qualified to do their job or they intended on taking his life. either way we need justice. i think throughout this whole trial, that's one word you will hear me and my family say a lot. justice. somebody needs to be held accountable. >> yes, sir. >> you mean to tell me if he didn't encounter derek chauvin that day, he would have still died? >> no, no! >> anybody out here standing out here today believe that, there's still a problem in america. a problem that needs to be addressed and addressed today. >> yes, sir. >> we can't get george floyd back, but what we can do is make sure that no family feels this pain and suffering we feel. his daughter won't have

dear white america, i've left earth. ust don't see the races." danez smith's poetry conveys the anger and frustration of black america. it is a recurring nightmare made worse by every protest following the death of another black person after an encounter with police. we did not ask to be part of your america, though, are we not america? i am sick of standing this ground. i will not call your recklessness the law. what does "black exhaustion" mean to you? black exhaustion for me is the tiredness you feel when the answer feels so simple and right there. and your country has a long history of pretending like it doesn't exist. it seems to me like america's new project is to always keep black liberation in the future. this is kind of like ground zero of where all the protest turned into uprisings, turned into destruction. local activist and film—maker da bullock has lived through and documented many disappointments for this community. we've been here before. we've been here where police have been charged, like in philando cast

one for white america. one for black america. and we can't have that. so, i think today is definitely a starting point. it's changed long overdue in this country. this goes all the way back to rodney king. as my uncle said, a blind man with see this. a pleend man can see that was murder. despite anything they say about my uncle, that was murder. so either they weren't trained and qualified to do their job or they intended on taking his life. either way, we need justice. the whole thing throughout this whole trial, that's one word you will hear me and my family say a lot. justice. somebody needs to be held accountable. you into mean to tell me, if he didn't encounter derek chauvin that day, he would have still died? anybody out there standing here today believe that it is still a problem in america. a problem that needs to be addressed. and addressed today. you know, we can't get george floyd back. but what we can do is make sure that no family feels this pane and suffering that we feel. his daughter won't have a father in her life. his brothers won't ha

dear white america, i've left earth.eys the anger and frustration of black america. it is a recurring nightmare made worse by every protest following the death of another black person after an encounter with police. we did not ask to be part of your america, though, are we not america? i am sick of standing this ground. i will not call your recklessness the law. what does black exhaustion mean to you? black exhaustion for me is the tiredness you feel when the answer feels so simple and right there. and your country has a long history of pretending like it doesn't exist. it seems to me like... america's new project is to always keep black liberation in the future. this is kind of like ground zero of where all the protest turned into uprisings, turned into destruction. this local activist and film—maker has lived through and documented many disappointments for this community. we have been here before. we have been here where police have been charged, like in philando castile's case and they have gotten away with it. and we

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the fantasy of donald trump was this belief that america must be a white nation. i don't want us to hold on to the view to believe this fantasy that somehow the election of the biden and harrison administration resolves to hand matter. that we ought to be an election puts a great forward republic back to sleep. i heard the last caller in the last hour say that she was sleeping well, i'm happy about that. but she must understand the crisis in the moment. and the forces that are outwork i mean we saw this -- we're seeing this across the country, there are those who are insisting on america being, remaining a nation over determined by this belief and why people ought to matter more than others. so we're confronting right now building new rigorous. the new redeemer's. and we have to address them directly before actually wanting to move forward, seems to me. >> let me ask you about some specifics about that biden administration, the headline from npr late last month, biden white house aims to and racial equity with executive actions. we just saw this past week, i belie

one for white america, and one for black america. and we can't have that. so, i think, today is definitely the starting point. it's change that's long overdue in this country. [sfx: revving trucks] pilot over radio: here we go, let's do this. ♪ pilot over radio: right there, right there. [sfx: revving trucks] pilot over radio: g complete. how do you introduce the larger-than-life gmc yukon? with the world's biggest tweet. the next generation gmc yukon. premium that's made to be used. the harry's razor is not the same. our razors have five german engineered blades designed to stay sharp, so your eighth shave is as smooth as your first. and we never upcharge you for high quality. harry's. available in store and at harrys.com. >>> ten months after the death of george floyd in police custody sparked the largest protest for racial justice in decades, the trial of former officer derek chauvin is now under way. what will it mean to the millions of americans watching it unfold? let's discuss now, a contributing writer for the atlantic. good to see you. thank you so

essentially a black america's pastor, said, and some of the active as we have been speaking to telus at white americawhat happens if a black man ties on video, it's up and put george floyd, can they getjustice? and if they cannot, george floyd's brother said, in what he is currently a black man getjustice in america? send in what he is currently a black man get justice in america?— in what he is currently a black man get justice in america? getjustice in america? and in those conversations _ getjustice in america? and in those conversations you _ getjustice in america? and in those conversations you are _ getjustice in america? and in those conversations you are having, - getjustice in america? and in those conversations you are having, are i conversations you are having, are the active is confident in the system? do they trust us courtroom to deliverjustice? {line system? do they trust us courtroom to deliverjustice?— to deliver 'ustice? one of the thins to deliverjustice? one of the things we — to deliverjustice? one of the things i've heard _ to deliverjustice? one of the things i've heard which -

white u.s. audiences, spanish america's gradual model was reassuringly familiar, a model that white people in theu.s. knew firsthand and often understood. a second reason that spanish-american emancipation did not raise many eyebrows in the united states, was that spanish america was generally far enough away that it existed as an abstraction more than as a reality in the eyes of u.s. readers. it was generally far enough away it did not seem to pose the same kind of immediate threat that the slave revolt in nearby haiti had seemed to do before. we can talk about how mexico fits in here. but for the most part, you can think of spanish america as a kind of laboratory in which these insurgents could work out different solutions to this problem, of having slavery in a republic, without -- people in the u.s. could observe that laboratory, without feeling immediately threatened by whatever happened there. so, newspaper editors were undaunted by reports that spanish americans were building these stenciling multiracial republics. and readers seem to have been undaunted as well. even in the south, the bab

are right that america must right now move beyond the whole approach to shame, blame, and punish white america us against one another. i still believe, i was at civil rights demonstrations in the 60's and dr. king said that it is important to pursue moral consistency to hold america. america should never be defined by its birth defect of slavery. who among us wants to be defined by the worst of what we have ever done when we were young? america is a country of second chances and a country of redemption. and so, that is why what we have done at the woodson center with our 1776 unites is that we are trying to build a multiracial coalition to confront the evils that are destroying our young people either through suicide, even in affluent communities, and in silicon valley the suicide rate is six times than avenue -- national average. inner-city black neighborhoods, the leading cause of death is homicide. in appalachia, and low income whites, young people are dying from prescription drugs. what we are doing at the woodson center is to unite the groups in so that we can stop looking at life through

white america particularly. they now are associated with that confession. you can't confess something without opening yourself to a vulnerability. and that vulnerability is what i call white guilt. white guilt is sort of weaponizes that historic shame. uses it to coerce people. so in the article that you're referring to where the parents and very elite prep school feel that their kids are being pushed around by this sort of political correctness that is so pervasive today, essentially we're looking at a white guilt phenomenon. they don't feel the moral confidence to resist it. >> martha: terrified. >> take a stand against it. >> martha: terrified the impact would have on their kids futures. the children don't want to speak out. shelby, thanks very much. always good to talk to you. hope you join us as we move through this trail with the background that you have and writing about it. good to see you, sir. joining me now, richard fowler, senior fellow at the new leader's council and a fox news contributor. your thoughts. the barbed wire, the fencing, the diffi

the white protestant america. but is anyone safe? who was a bystander in the war?h in the next war? he'll join in the job of teaching brotherhood. judge cross lives in this community. lends a hand wherever she can help you learn true democracy. in her courtroom she sees the twin fruit of prejudice. the attacker is as great a problem as the innocent victim. yes, judge cross will help. businessmen value the peace and security of their family. they'll stand by the parents and teachers, the police and jurists. clergy men and civic brothers who want brotherhood in the place of hood lum and hatred. the ymca and its local director frank alexandre will join full strength in any community effort. arthur goldstein, west side leader, pledges of support of his organization. the holy name society will cooperate. james reagan, district president of holy name, promises his support, his organization's strength. the american jewish congress will give every assistance. murry meyerson, leader in this community, will help develop a plan of action, help carry it out. the council of sif

backs on the party of the new deal, the party that really guarantee middle-class security for white americat promise was extended across the color line during the civil rights movement. lyndon johnson became the last democrat to win a majority of white voters even until today. amy: i want to go to bessemer, alabama, and this is an issue dear to your heart. amazon work is continuing to vote on whether to become the first unionized amazon warehouse in the country. they're demanding stronger covid safety measures and relief from impossibly high productivity standards that leave many unable to take even bathroom breaks. upwards of 80% of the bessemer workers are black and the majority are women. last month, we spoke to jennifer bates, a worker and organizer at amazon's warehouse in bessemer. this is what she said on our show. >> the reason why we're organizing is we need an even playing fie. some of the conditions that are in there are being ignored by human resources, long work hours with only two breaks, long walks upstairs. we want to not be an order when we have issues. people are getting f

it's an excuse from what is clearly, you know, a racist comment and that perpetuates that white america should fear our fellow black citizens. >> there is a report from the anti defamation league that found white supremacist hit a high in 2020. they have been more emboldened now than ever. i know you're not calling senator johnson a white supremacist but the language he's using certainly is if not a dog whistle to them, it's certainly a hat tip. >> yeah, well, it's an amazing set of circumstances. we all know what happened here on january 6th. we saw the consequences, the nation saw it. and, you know, this is like some of the house members who want to honor the capitol police but don't want to recognize, you know, the insurrectionists that caused them to have to perform their duties, risk their lives and get injured. >> you're talking about louie gohmert. politico says he circulated a version of the bill to honor police but removing reference of the thing they are being honored for, defending the scene of democracy against an insurrection. >> absolutely. that's exactly what i'm referenc

of white america. through friends and faux, through supporters and opponents. through people who were curious and judgmental, to people who actually knew her and people who just met her in passing. and for whatever reason, she insured that that was the case. she clearly spoke her mind. we know that. we have enough to indicate that. and she did nat over about at least half of her 86 years. she walked over much of this country, did verbal battles with some of the most important and skilled debaters of the time. so, we know a lot about her but it's still pretty much comes from white audiences. white photographers, newspaper reporters, allies, oponents and in a way that represents the racial thinking of the time period, because this was a time period of racism and sexism and classism. but it also comes from us and how we interpret what we hear, what we read about sojourner truth. and in this day and age, we want a strong woman. we want a strong black woman. and she certainly, in many ways, can fit that bill. we need to remember that, while many states, by the mid18

racing, anti-blackness, and i woke this, that political correctness is scheme to destroy white america woke inc. very pertinent to the conversation tonight. good to have both of you. >> good to be with you. >> i want to start with a tweet you had that the filibuster isn't racist calling everything racist is racist. politicians are exploiting that word for their own goals. explain what you meant. >> politicians have weapon eyes this term for their own use, the filibuster isn't racist, calling it racist is racist, the same way we hear from woke institutions throughout the country the mass is racist because of unequal results, the claim is racist. reading race into matters where race plays no role is itself racializing an issue and my definition of racism is discriminating on the basis of race rather than the modern definition which is the failure to discriminate based on race. woke culture has it backwards and sets us back 60 years. it is the job of leaders to set that course forward going of our institutions. >> we have the new editor-in-chief of teen though, there were these inappropri

so our community couldn't work from home and build wealth in the same way as white america.are some of the reasons why things have gotten so much worse and it's really a troubling statistic that we have to continue to worry about >> how do you close that gap particularly on investing in the stock market why do you think the younger generation is starting to show progress on that front for black families and black americans? >> well, i think one of the ways to get progress is for all major corporations and anchor institutions in our community to understand there is a problem. and that their african-american employees even though they might have similar percentage comparableability when it comes to joining the 401(k) plan when you look behind the surface you see african-americans often have much less saved because we'll be in the most conservative investment options, most conservative funds, much more likely to take hardship loans, early withdrawals to help support expanded families. so we need, it is really a responsibility to anchor institutions to put extra effort on really

it shouldn't be one for white america, it shouldn't be one for black america. we are one. might lie ahead. lebo diseko, bbc news, minneapolis. well, to discuss the impact the black lives matter movement has had on racism in the us and around the world, we can speak now to cephas williams, the founder of the black british network and the 56 black men project, which used social media as a platform to post striking headshots of black men in hoodies, from all sorts of different professions in the hope that the pictures would change the narrative of how black men are perceived. you can see some you can see some of you can see some of the pictures. good morning, how are you? i’m you can see some of the pictures. good morning, how are you? i'm good, how have you — good morning, how are you? i'm good, how have you been? _ good morning, how are you? i'm good, how have you been? good, _ good morning, how are you? i'm good, how have you been? good, thank- good morning, how are you? i'm good, how have you been? good, thank you l how have you been? good, thank you for askinu. how have

she regaled the crowd with stories and songs of the old south and dressed exactly like white america'slorious vision of a mammy and acting like one to boot. she gained the company over 50,000 orders from companies and individuals who want to buy aunt jemima pancake mix for themselves. the organizers gave her a medal, like, thanks for all of the buzz. at one point they had to hire and deploy special policeman to deal with the traffic. the eager, enthusiastic traffic around the aunt jemima exhibit. host: that is the history chicks. having worked on that podcast earlier this year, what was your reaction to the announcement that the quaker oats company was retiring the product? ms. graham: i was not surprised. i thought it was about time. i heard buzz about that earlier in the year and maybe that is what had lodged in my mind as to why we wanted to do aunt jemima. long ago we covered betty crocker and we had wanted to do and -- an anunt jemima show then but i do not feel that we knew enough to be respectful and understand the background and we finally felt like we were ready, and the aunt

and -- and that perpetuates that white america should fear our fellow-black citizens. >> there is a report out today from the anti-defamation league, found white supremacists, propaganda hit an all-time high in 2020. report says quote white supremacists are emboldened now, emboldened than ever. i know you are not calling senator johnson a white supremacist. but the kind of language he is using it certainly is, if not a dog whistle to them. it's certainly a -- a -- a hat tip. >> yeah. well, it's -- it's -- it's -- it's an amazing set of circumstances. we all know what happened here, on january 6th. we saw the consequences. the nation saw it. and, you know, this is like some of the house members, who want to honor the capitol police. but don't want to recognize, you know, the insurrectionists that caused them to have to perform their duties, risk their lives, and get injured. >> yeah. you're talking about louie gohmert. you are talking about louie gohmert. "politico" is reporting today that louie gohmert is a texas congressman. circulating -- circulated a version of the bill meant to honor c

we had a white america and african-american america. katherine was having to delicately walk in both worlds. she went to work every day and gave nasa and the astronauts, none of who look like her, 100%. as she said, in spite of how i am treated, where i can go and eat, what i can do. i'm going to come here and fight to make sure i do the best job possible for my country and the space race. while at nasa, there were three significant space ventures katherine played a significant role in. one was alan shepard, the first individual who entered into space. katherine captivated the trajectories for that mission to happen. she played a significant role in john glenn. john lennon had said about his life at the end of his life, he would not venture into space if katherine johnson was not checking the calculations on his spaceflight. the actual flight with john glenn, when he orbited the earth, katherine johnson played a significant role in that. we also know she played a significant role in the moon landing. those are three pivotal moments that

andfrom there, railed against a quote, new racial cast system in the country, with whites at the bottom. he said americanice, nice folks, right? guess who the keynote speaker was at the conference this weekend? the keynote at the white homeland holocaust denial, went jim crow great, a sitting congressman. a sitting five-term republican congressman and by sitting, yes, he is still in congress. paul gosar in arizona, not a sitting member of congress would go to this conference. but for congressman paul gosar of arizona, sure. don't just go, keynote it. he is the kind of congressman who has said things like the u.s. is already in a civil war and quote, we just haven't started shooting yet. he says stuff like this had and associates himself with causes like this, keynoting the white nationalist conference? the conference for america being a whites only country? that is something that is supposed to be too crazy and offensive even for this republican party now, right? i mean, that's why they had to have their own separate conference aside from cpac, right? here's how congressman gosar paid for the arizona re

which became largely a black observation rather ignored by white america? i love this picture of this woman on her writing desk. you can see a painting of lincoln. and here's some of the scenes from the lincoln the the springfield race rise of 1908. this is william donegan. the 84 year man who was lynched. as i i don't think i mentioned to you. do i say that he turned out to have been abraham lincoln's boot maker. and and friend here's what was the country was becoming more and more preoccupied with which was the healing the breach between north and south. this is a reunion at gettysburg. they're reenacting pickett's charge. the confederates instead of getting to the top of the ridge and being mowed down instead they would get up and have handshaking ceremonies. and there's a extreme important part of our history healing this breach and it's not not to be to be ridiculed in any way it's if it was extremely important. my only problem is that why could not have gone on and at the same time the healing of the racial breach? something that theodore roosevelt wa

a recent "new york times" analysis the vaccination rate for black americans is half of that of white america for hispanic people is even larger. morgan radford is in new orleans are some members of the black community say the pandemic has done more damage than hurricane katrina. morgan, it's frustrating to cover in this respect. we hear all the right things when it comes to vaccine equity from the government, we've heard all the right things from the medical groups and from local leaders. yet it hasn't mattered whether -- it hasn't mattered who is in charge of a city or a state. these inequities continue to show up. do we have a good answer? >> chuck, you nailed it. it's an incredibly frustrating thing to see play out on the ground. i think that comparison to katrina says it all. nearly every person we've spoken to on the ground has made a comparison to the effects of covid and the effects of katrina. the reality on paper the effects of covid has been far worse. 8 times the number died from covid compared to katrina. and unemployment numbers, at the height of unemployment is worse after covi

white america does not know how to deal with white folks when they get out of control. they will not see the same thing happened to them as they would see happen to other groups. it is just that simple. host: that is jamie in maryland, calling . we have spent about a half hour on your thoughts with the house not meeting in session today in light of this information capitol police received about a potential threat. we will continue to do so until 8:00. you can call in. (202)-748-8000 for democrats. (202)-748-8001 for republicans. independents, (202)-748-8002. john from twitter says the house should not have canceled its session today. these types of threats unfortunately become more common as conspiracy thinking overtakes the conservative movement. the house must press on and continue the business of government. dave in orlando says i don't think the house and senate members don't trust the security enough to show up at the capital. we still don't have the answers to why security failed and the senate is still beating today, even in light of the risk -- in light of the i

but keynoting the white nationalist conference? the conference for americaountry? that is something that is supposed to be too crazy and offensive even for this republican party now, right? i mean, that's why they had to have their own separate conference aside from cpac, right? here's how congressman gosar home state paper "the arizona republic" put it in a column today. quote, where is the condemnation from gosar's fl low party leaders, the ones who insist the lunatic fringe is not taking over the once grand old party. this is an easy call for a party that insists it's not the party of white supremacist. it ought to be an easy call. it's a easy call, because paul gosar was joined at the white nationalist conference this weekend by steve king. remember who steve king is? former republican congressman. he is a former republican congressman because he was stripped of his committee assignments, shunned and ultimately defeated in a republican primary. after he said one too many nice things about white supremacy, and that was seen as over the line for the republ

it should be one for white america, it should be one for black america. we are one.ury and justice. for the judge, the jury and justice. this for thejudge, thejury and justice. this place is where it all started. this place is where it all started. this is ground zero, the place where george floyd was filmed for more than nine minutes asking for help and not receiving it, and the people who have turned this into a memorial say they will keep this place is a peaceful memorial to his memory, to honour his memory. and every single black member of the public here in minneapolis i have spoken to does not expect justice. minneapolis i have spoken to does not expectjustice. a lot of people in the community think the jury being very diverse as it is will deliverjustice, but many people do not expect to get any justice from this trial because they have been here before and it did not end in a conviction, and they think this is the same thing that will happen with the same thing that will happen with the trial of derek chauvin. thea;r the trial of derek chauvin. they want acco

addition, i pray that we don't treat -- the fantasy of donald trump with his belief that america must be a white nation -- i don't want us to hold onto the viewer believe this fantasy that somehow the election of the biden harris administration resolve the matter, that we ought to -- that their election puts a grateful republic back. i heard the last collar, eye color in the last hour say she was sleeping well. i'm happy about that but she must understand we are still in a moment of crisis. the forces that are at work, they saw us in cpac and we are seeing it across the country. there are those that are insisting on america being and remaining a nation overdetermined by this belief that white people ought to matter more than others. we are confronting the new redeemers and we have to address them directly before actually going to move forward. >> let me ask you about specifics of the biden administration. late last month biden white house aims to advance racial equity with executive actions. we saw this past week that a house subcommittee considering the issue of reparations for slavery, are the

white people in america, many white people, think that racism is an overt, hostile act between individualsging them on race. and that is true. and somehow don't really understand or are not willing to look a little bit further into the issue of systemic racism. how you create systems that treat similarly situated people differently because of the color of their skin. and of course, if you have any african-american friends at all, or if you ever listen to black people who are, by the way, exhausted that white people can't get this and continue to ask black people to help them to understand it, because white people won't do the work -- then you begin to understand the pain and the agony of them having to wear their blackness every day. and white people, not all but many white people, don't want to understand it. a guy like ron johnson who occupies a position of one of the 100 most powerful people in the world expelling that blather from his mouth? it makes it really, really difficult in the country to have a thoughtful discussion about it. as painful as it is for all of us. >> okay, so would