the white house, though, is also known as the people's house, and so that really means the white house grounds are the people's grounds. and if you start to think about it that way, it isn't so far removed from a typical suburban home. typically, suburban homes, mine included, have a more formal or dressy front lawn. that would be the north grounds of the white house with the north portico facing pennsylvania avenue, and a more private, hess formal backyard -- less formal backyard. that's the larger south grounds looking down toward the washington monument. and that's pretty much what happens at the white house today. >> let's get to the issue of just how sacrosanct are the white house grounds. are they untouchable? and i don't -- you're an historian, i'm a journalist. neither one of us is a politician. but first ladies, especially in the modern era, they want to go around changing things, there's resistance to that. >> there is. i think it's fair to say that people have an opinion about melania trump's recent rose garden renovation. but hopefully as the history of that site, which i j

from the trump white house felt?spent that much time in the biden white house but i got some more questions about this. i will say i think it's hard, it's just as hard to cover trump as it is to cover biden. people think in a way like covering trump is kind of this easy pickings, there's so many things, details to learn and things to collect but the problem with covering trump was that so much of it wasn't reliable or coming from reliable narrators here. i mentioned my kind of long newspaper career, whether it was any of these county commission meeting for school board meetings or state legislative committee hearings, like never have been anywhere except the trump white house where eight people could go into a meeting and 12 versions of that what happened in that meeting emerged afterwards. to understand what is happening behind the scenes you needed to talk to almost everybody who was in the room to have an understanding of what happened. there were so many rivalries, so many, i mean trump came up in the tabloid cul

white house correspondent.ng awards for reporting from both the national press club and the ford foundation. michael set out to write a book about trump's 2020 reelection campaign. he expected to do what he calls in the introduction a traditional campaign book about how copy would market himself for a second term. of course, 2020 turned out to be most unconventional year given the pandemic and nothing traditional about trump's campaign. book chronicles much of the chaos and disorganization that marked the reelection effort, disastrous dysfunctional response to the coronavirus crisis, the internal battles between trump and military advisers over whether to unleash soldiers on civil rights protests and much, much more. the review of the book, nuance, sharp and fairly reviewing and publishers turned the work in immersive blow by blow onedown. michael's conversation partner here this evening has been the columnist for the wall street journal since 2000. she's also the author of 9 books, u.s. politics history and cu

she was badgering people at every white house social event. would say when is the summit going to happen? susan: gorbachev's story is a window into a thread that runs all the way through your biography and that is the flipside of affability. that is the icing is that nancy -- the iciness that nancy reagan could display toward people, almost chemistry like. gorbachev is one of the ones that she took almost an instant dislike disliking to. explain that. karen: it basically come one of the defining characteristics of nancy reagan is her fearlessness. in writing the book, she very rarely set foot in the west wing but when she was displeased about something, everybody who worked there knew about it. people who were not in her favor tended not to last very long in their jobs. most famously, during iran contra when she engineers the , firing of the white house chief of staff and essentially, she has this incredibly attuned radar to people, to what their agendas are. as their son ron told me, what she understood that my father didn't i was understand

in the white house.et's listen to it. . from the early days of our administration, nancy has been intentionally involved in the ever to fight drug abuse. her personal observations and efforts have given her such dramatic insights that i wanted her to share them with you this evening. nancy? nancy: thank you. as a mother, i always thought of september as a special month. a time where they can go fill those restless mind was so much has happened over these last few years. so much to shift the foundations of all we know and all we believe today, there is a drug and alcohol abuse epidemic in this country and no one is safe from it. one of the things one learns when reading your book is that the irony is that even though she was promoting just say no, she had an issue with prescription drugs. karen: that is correct. you have to go back to the 1950's. she had this 19 -- this very anxious personality. very tightly wound. when women would go to doctors back then, the doctors would hand them a sedative. they had

i: the radio back to the white house -- called on the radio back to the white house. we had no idea the president was under treatment. i thought perhaps he had come to check on brady. i saw the deputy chief of staff was on the telephone line. the president was in treatment. >> go ahead. >> i was going to ask for a little bit more time. i wanted to cover a couple of these things. i came out of the hilton hotel, i know jerry was on the president's left. now i am on the right side. jerry is on the left side. we are probably 10 feet from a fully armored car. all of the setting, six shots go off. there was some electricity in the air. i had heard gunshots before but these were not very loud. it was a revolver. an inexpensive revolver. what i wanted to say, from where he was, he had the gun in the rain coat pocket. as soon as he saw the president and he followed him from left to right. god bless jim brady. that is when he first responded. he stood right in front of where the president was. they had the old doors on those cars. they open from front to rear. that gave us a bi

gerald ford takes over the white house with only a day's notice. he is surrounded by aides and advisors who are nixon loyalists. those include the chief of staff alexander hague, general hague, the attorney general william saxby, nixon's fifth attorney general because they all kept resigning due to the scandal. in california, nixon's former press secretary ron ziggler is now acting as nixon's handler from afar. in the midst of this, a big issue arises. what is going to happen to nixon's records and tapes? these are key evidence in all of the watergate trials of nixon's co-conspirators in the white house. they are scheduled to go forward in a few months. there are only a few people surrounding president ford that he can trust. bob hartman, who was his chief speech writer and now counsel to the president phil buer and a young lawyer named benton becker. he was a trusted colleague. he was special counsel to president ford. most of the figures in this drama died years and years ago. one of them, benton becker, whom president ford trusted completely, ju

>> we are going to ground. >> great. >> [inaudible] back to the white house, back to the white house.oters okay. >> so they are heading back now towards the white house. and [inaudible] rudy is crying, the driver of them are seniors hurtling down connecticut avenue. it's close to traffic. they wouldn't be traveling traffic here on 1818 one 1981 on march 30th. [inaudible] now at about, as they are driving along and then remember the limousine is along. they have no support. they've left the motorcade behind. the follow-up clerk, the armored follow of two guys brandishing with this on it finally catches up behind him and despair limousine which has the president positioned in it and another agent finally gets up near them to. they are going along, the police cars are starting to follow up the motorcycles are getting ahead of the limousine, and as we are going through right about here, jerry parton realizes that something is wrong with the president. he's having trouble breathing, i don't know, what's wrong, are you having a heart attack? is it your heart? reagan says i don't think so an

no longer in the white house, right? andin there's like these last mn standing of jared and kellyanne, a really smart point of the pandemic. this is from r.j. again. the republican party has tried to to dr. fauci now as the bogeyman to motivate the voter. how much damage do you think this does to the current coronavirusf response? >> i think it does a lot of damage. he's still out on tv all the time trying to tell the country what to do, but his approval ratings were really high last year, and you can see that they've taken quite a dip because the conspiracy theories about him and, you know, the sort of hate towards him was kind of confined last year to a specific part of the republican party, anda it's become way moe widespread. like, tucker carlson on his show is calling for him to be criminally investigated. over what with, i'm not sure, you know, but and then at the rally overr the weekend, marjore taylor green, they were chanting lock him up. it's gotten really bad. i mean, it's almost -- it's a bit unbelievable how

this white house. >> yeah, this white house. no, i never felt fearful.l directions so i had it easy compared to these two. the one thing that we were talking earlier, you have to have intuition in terms of when it's time to give the man some space. so it's more of just an intuitive sense of when it is time to sort of slowly back away. >> every three months we would go to walter reed and he would visit wounded warriors. i think it affected him emotionally. one time he went and we saw corey remsberg, the guy he was on patrol with in afghanistan was killed instantly. corey was thrown into a ravine. he was under water. somehow he survived, not drowning. he spent months in a coma and he lost half his eyesight and the ability to control half his body. he had to relearn how to walk, talk and eat. but here's the thing that really took me aback. president obama had met corey in normandy the previous june. and i had taken a picture of that encounter. and the picture, we had sent a copy to the family. and it was taped on the hospital wall. and i was looking at that

but even during the white house years. i tell one funny story in the book, heath generally fly up to washington every two or three weeks. particularly when there was a crisis so he could just be in the white house for a few days and wander around quietly observed what was happening. and would have a one on one with carter and tell him what he thought. one day carter is in the residence upstairs of the white house, having a session with a group of journalists, a group of thirsty journalists. but remember famously carter moved into the white house and announced he was not going to serve hard liquor. so he had served these thirsty journalists iced tea. so at one point, suddenly the door opens and he wanders in. and he yelled to him, and help yourself to a bourbon. he made an exception for him. >> one of the things you pointed out did not realize was part of the reason why the carter's did not serve hard alcohol was it because it cost so much. it was a financial decision less than a puritanical religious reason. they'd drink a

subpoena-ing the secret white house -- white house tapes that would approve or disapprove mixers complicity in the water get cover-up. i've done a lot of work on this era of the american political history, that's why it is one of my favorite topics of all. i know most of your parents weren't even alive at the time of watergate in 1973, 1974. when all of this was taken place. i thought i would step the stage today and take you back to october of 1973 during the darkest months of the naked -- nixon presidency, this time the wounds of watergate are fresh. the wounds of the vietnam war are just receding, and the country is being consumed by a growing scandal called watergate. so we are going to show this video. >> october of 1973, the senate has begun hearings investigating possible white house involvement and the burglary at the watergate hotel, and the subsequent cover-up. the big question, what did the president know and when did he know it? investigators learned that president nixon has made secret tapes of every conversation in his executive offices. special prosecutor archibald cox has su

, on the second floor of the white house in the private quarters, the smallest room in the whitehouse actually. and nixon would go up there every night to listen to music and to scribble on his yellow legal pads and to phone his cronies. and on the night of january 20, 1973, at 1 in the morning, among other things he had trouble sleeping, he couldn't get to sleep. he called his aid who was also known as his hatchet man and talks about his wish to get even with his enemies and how he's going to wrap up the vietnam war and also how he was going to get even with the "washington post" that was pursuing my former newspaper pics i'm going to play a little extract from that tape and so you can see how rich this material is. now, he's just come back from the kennedy center. there's an inaugural day concert at the kennedy center, and actually they played tchaikovsky 1812 overture, and the pianist was ben kleiber. so he's pumped up about that, and he doesn't like the washington symphony orchestra because for political reasons. he's brought the philadelphia philharmonic down to play for him

now, there will always be erects in the white house. a wrecks in the white house. >> mister president, mrs. reagan, thank you for what you have done for our country, our world, and for each one of us. good luck and may god bless both of you. (applause) >> thank you. [applause] >> thank you all are not alone for the gifts because they're wonderful, particularly this last one, because he's already taken over this white house. i'm glad he's got one of his own now, and you know something, he doesn't get kicked out of it in two terms. (laughter) (applause) there aren't any words that can properly tell you how bittersweet these days are, and the things that we would like to say to all of you. you know, i keep remembering back and not too far, when someplace along the line there would always be a picture of a president standing in the oval office and looking at the window, usually the picture from behind, and he's standing there and that is words are quoted as a tag for that picture about this is the loneliest place, lonely and so forth. i don

master the white house back to the white house rawhide is okay. and so they're heading back now towards the white house. and drew and rue is flying the driver of the museum. just hurdling down, connecticut avenue. close to traffic there wouldn't be traffic here in 1981 on march 30th, because they had closed the streets for the limousines ride expected ride back. now at about as they're driving along and now remember the limousines alone, they have no support they've left the motorcade behind. the follow-up car the armored follow-up car two guys brandishing uzis on it finally catches up behind them and the spare limousine which has the president's position in it, and another agent finally gets up near them too. and so they're going along the police cars are starting to now follow up in the police motorcycles are getting ahead of limousine. and as they're going through about right about here. jerry part realizes that something's wrong with the president because he's having trouble breathing. he says mental breathing. i don't know. what's wrong. are

today at the white house dr. anthony fauci gave a brief scientific briefing on monoclonal antibody treatment. this treatment for people who have covid and if you can get this treatment to people in time, it can reduce their chances of having to be hospitalized by 70 to 85%. it's an astonishingly effective treatment approved for use by the nih. this is not one of those snake oil cures, not one of those quack cures that you read about on facebook. this is actually an nih approved treatment. even in states where vaccine uptake has been terrible, the distribution of monoclonal antibody treatment has ramped up. the federal government is pushing out more of this and it's turning out to be a safety net option to try to save the hospitals. not only to save lives but to save the hospitals to try to keep infected people from getting sick and having to be hospitalized. we are seeing big increases in the use of these monoclonal antibody treatments in florida, mississippi and where politics and conservative politicians have p

on the second floor of the white house and the private quarters, the smallest room in the whitehouse actually and nixon would go every night to listen to music and phone his cronies. on the night at one in the morning among other things hehi had trouble sleeping he couldn't get to sleep he called his aid and talked about his wish to get even with his enemies and how he was going to wrap up the vietnam war and also how he was going to get even with the "washington post" pursuing this investigation into watergate so i'm going to play a little extract from that tape so you can see how rich this material is. he's just come back from the kennedy center and they played the 1812 overture. he's pumped up about that and he doesn't like the washington symphony orchestra because of political reasons. he's brought thefr philadelphia monarch down to play d for him d considers them all politically aligned particularly the conductor. he goes on another extract is about hisis inaugural address tt he's about to deliver and he shares portions of it and then talks about the vietnam war. i'm going

we know he is at the white house. he will be visiting and everything is piling on one on top of the other. we'll get the most information from the pentagon briefing. one of the things blinken said that we're on track to complete the mission by august 31st provided the taliban continues to cooperate and there are no disruptions to the process. so you see they may have that contingency, but i can't seem them resuming flights until they make sure the airport is secure. >> to that end, there is not a second option to get 6,000 american troops out of the airport. there is not a convoy option. you can't march 6,000 troops through. how do they tactically approach this issue here? you talked about the idea of do we know the perimeter is breeched. what are the steps that need to be taken here not just to resume this air lift, but for the fact that these 6,000 american soldiers and marines that came into the country can't simply be left there when the time line is up. >> it will be precarious as the numbers dwindle, right? the

getting better, armored glass at the white house. so a lot of things changednd mostly changed for the better. i go back to those metal detectors as being the difference that there hasn't been the historic assassin has been be of the lone gunman that gets close. and there hasn't been an incident since march 30, 1981. i think mrs. reagan had a little bit to do with it, she exerted influence, said, listen, it's time to make changes. >> the metal detectors were huge for security. funny thing is, we were told no early on as you remember, tim. >> yeah. >> these were the same people to go to the airport and go through metal detectors on a airplane can yet don't want it at the white house. anyway. there's employees everywhere. the president goes. >> these guys are experts from security but from the point of view not making it happen, i can tell you the changes started immediately as he was in the hospital. it was twilight when four of us in the motorcade were still at the hospital and they let our cars go back to the white house. even the wh

>> we are right -- we are going to crown. >> back to the white house. back to the white house. hide is okay. >> they are heading back now towards the white house. and the driver is flying, the driver of the limousine is hurgtsing -- hurdling down the connecticut. they closed the streets so there is no traffic. remember, the limousine is alone. they have no support. they have left the motorcade behind. the follow-up car, armored follow-up car with two guys brandishing uzis on it finally catches up behind them. and the spare limousine which has the president's physician in it and another vehicle comes along, too. the police admonitions are catching up and getting ahead of the magazine. along here jerry pear notices the president is having trouble breathing. are you having a heart attack. the president says i don't think so. he dabs blood from his mouth. jerry pear has to make a call. this guy is struggling. they have a medical facility at the white house, the most secure place in the world. doesn't know if it is world war iii, or they can go to the hospital. if they go to the hos

on the second floor of the white house in the private quarters. smallest room in the white house, actually Ãand would go up there every night to listen to music and to scribble on his yellow legal pad and to phone in his cronies and on the night of january 20, 1973 at one in the morning among other things he had trouble sleeping. he couldn't get to sleep. he called his aid chuck colson who was also known as his man and talks about the, his wish to get even with his enemies. and how he is going to wrap up the vietnam war and also how he would gain to get even with the washington post with pursuing my former newspaper was pursuing this investigation into watergate so i'm going to play a little extract from that tape and so you can see how rich this material is. now, he's just come back from the kennedy center. there's an inaugural day concert at the kennedy center and he's actually they played tchaikovsky's 1812 overture and the pianist was ben clyburn so he's pumped up about that . he doesn't like the washington symphony orchestra or political reas

phil mattingly at the white house. cnn's laila santiago is here with a closer look at the dire situation in florida as well as the growing tensions between.and the governor ron desantis. what's the latest there? >> reporter: wolf, i spoke to one doctor who says this has gone from a health problem to a political problem. jackson health system where i am right now just announced that they will have a vaccine mandate for its employees. the mayor of miami-dade just announced that she will require testing of county ploys, and this all comes as governor ron desantis is doubling down saying that florida is not a state of lockdowns or mandates. tonight florida the latest epicenter in the covid-19 surge. hospitals are filling up. >> on july 1st jackson was treating 66 covid positive in patients in our hospitals. as of noon today that number is 320. a 385% increase in just over a month. >> reporter: cases are on the rise. >> within the metro orlando area we're seeing a significant surge in new cases, nearly 1,000 new cases are b

and the lawyers in the justice department actually taking power away from the white house where politics are e

[laughter] has the president or anyone from the white house been in contact with republican senators and leadership over there to talk about the eviction moratorium? we were talking about the house a lot obviously, they are the , ones that are sleeping outside of the capitol, but it would take turns an eviction both from republicans also to get moratorium. are you guys in contact with leadership? sec. psaki: we are in contact with republicans and democrats about a range of issues, and we certainly welcome anyone in the republican caucus who wants to work together on an eviction moratorium. >> is the president calling on the senate to take it up, an eviction moratorium, because they are in session. they're still here. sec. psaki: is, as you said, it would also require congress to act. you need both houses to act. again, i think this is a matter of whether there is support in caucuses to do that. that is a challenge. even the most passionate advocates who are out there, and we certainly stand by them and support their same objective of extending the eviction moratorium can not do it on

in conversation will be opposed public affairs, ashley berger who covers white house.ley joined the postwar years ago after 11 years at the new york times in her reporting on russian interference in the 2016 election was part of the package of national reporting in 2018. ashley frequently appears on an msnbc as a contributor. take it away. >> thank you for doing this and thank you for everyone tuning in. i assume you fall preordered the book, here it is, it's fantastic. i spent read it. your book is so great, i'll ask my questions and you can spread it out for answers. we want to use as our to recount all the amazing anecdotes in your book and i'm not going to do that but there is one i wanted to ask about that's got a lot of attention already, he report president trump at one time suggested cruiseship passengers sent to guantÁnamo bay, toss about back. >> this was something that jumped out at us for a couple of reasons. one, in february 2020, there's a lot of focus first on the diamond princess cruise ship off the coast of japan, five or 600 passengers on the ship, a

that was nixon's favorite room in the white house on the second floor the white house and the privates. the smallest room in the white house actually pretty in nixon would go up there every night to listen to the music and scribble on his yellow legal pad and a phone his cronies. on the night of january 20th, 1973, at 1:00 o'clock in the morning among other things he had trouble sleeping pretty could not get to sleep read he called his aide chuck was also known as a catch man and it talks about the work his wish to get even with his enemies. and now is going to wrap up the vietnam war and also how he was going to get even with the washington post my former newspaper following this investigation into watergate. so i began to have an extract from that tape. and so you can see how rich this material is. now he is just come back from the kennedy center. the concert from the kennedy center and he actually played tchaikovsky's 1812 overture. and that is the pianist. so his pumped up about that. and he doesn't like that washington symphony orchestra because for physical reasons and he has br

the white house described it as a brief pause. our clarissa ward and team on the ground in kabul described this as an eight-hour delay. hardly a brief pause. it gives you a sense of how difficult this process is to bring people in, fly them to the countries and process them. that caused a bit of a backup. a significant backup, actually, but the white house is saying that president biden will announce that the flights are resuming. they will resume. the order has been give ton start the flights up again. but the question here is is the state department, is this government bureaucracy working as fast as it needs to here? that's one thing on the minds of officials here at the white house as they've been meeting with the president and others, trying to get some of this backlog unjammed, if you will. that's been a challenge of the morning. this is just the airport we're talking. never mind the people trying to get to the airport, still trying to go through taliban control. that still needs to be addressed. we're told the president will

and the white house confusing on this issue of masks, of what to do. what's your reporting say about the white house's handling of all of this and what's it mean that we're back up to 100,000 cases a day on president biden's watch as he continues to say he's following the science? lisa: there have been complaints about how the white house has messaged this both from democrats and republicans. some democrats feel the white house moved towards declaring victory too early. we remember that july 4 barbecue they had over there but the reality is the white house is in a really difficult spot on this. we know from polling, from data, analyzing, voters and trump counties that went for trump versus counties that went for biden that republicans are more vaccine hesitant. that the areas of the country where people are most skeptical of vaccine, many tend to be republican and those are the exact areas where the president's words are likely to have the least amount of sway and may prompt the kind of political pushback that we saw from governor desantis. there is po

instead, what we know is that the white house is also for now delayed the briefing of the white house press secretary. and we also know that the bill there has been delay or cancellation of a scheduled meeting virtually with the us president and governors around the united states would raise their hands and that we're offering to try and resettle some of the afghans that have been evacuated from afghanistan, now instead what the president is doing is he's being brief continuously. we know early in the morning, he was briefed in the situation. room not only was the secretary of defense, as alan fisher reported present with the president, but also the chair of the joint chiefs of staff and as well the secretary of state and the vice president of the united states, comma, la harris, who appeared virtually because she is out of the country right now, continuing her asian tour. now, what we know is that they were given real time intelligence and that they are coordinating with the commanders of the us military in afghanistan on the ground. so we are expecting potentially to still hear from

the smallest room in the white house actually.and nixon would go up every night to listen to music and a scribble on his yellow legal pads and on the night of januare morning among other things he had trouble sleeping. he couldn't get to sleep. he called his aid who was also known as his hatchet man and talks about his wish to get even with his enemies and how he's going to wrap up the vietnam war and get even with the "washington post" pursuing this investigation into watergate so i'm going to play a little extract from that tape so you can see how rich this material is. now he's just come back from the kennedy center. they played the 1812 overture so he's pumped up about that and he doesn't like the washington symphony orchestra because of political reasons. he's brought up philadelphia from the monarch down to play for him. he considers them more aligned with him, particularly the conductor. so i'm going to play a little bit of that and then he goes on. another is about the inaugural address that he's about to deliver and he sh

conversation with yasmeen and gaming damon will be opposed calling of theirs, ashley who covers the white house. ashley joined the post four years ago after 11 years at the "new york times" and reporting on russian interference in the 2016 election was part of the package of post stories that won the pulitzer for national reporting in 2018. ashley frequently appears on nbc news and msnbc as a contributor. so yasmeen, damien and ashley, take it away. >> hi. thank you, guys for doing this. damien and yasmeen everyone for tuning in. i assume you all that pre-ordered the book from politics and prose but here it is. it's fantastic, thank you. your book is so great and i'll ask my question you guys can find out for who answers. your book is so great a part of a just wants to use this our job you recount all the amazing anecdotes in your book. i'm not going to do that but there is one i would you about that is got a lot of attention already basically you report president trump at one point suggested sending inspected cruiseship passengers to guantÁnamo bay -- infected. tells about that. >> this is som

what else can the white house do at this point? >> they got a boost on the vaccination effort from the delta variant. the areas where they have seen vaccinations going up the most are the areas getting hit the hardest by the delta variant. so there have been some uptick in the number of vaccines driven by that. at the same time they have a paradigm they're struggling with that you touched on a moment ago. the delta variant is out there three to four ins and the cases are increasing and they need to reassure people that the vaccines do work. there is concern and we saw internal documents that the increases reports of breakthrough infections, so it is a message that the white house is trying to juggle as they try to calm concerns about the breakthrough vaccinations to try to keep that momentum going on the vaccination front. >> i guess we have another 2020 call back in afternoon in the form of a big covid press conference at the white house. i know the white house is reportedly upset with the press for how they say we missed the mome

what we saw was broadly -- this is what the white house will say.mericans support the exit. most felt like it was time to get out. they had been there long enough, they didn't want to see american boots on the ground. how about people felt about the evacuation and how they felt about the president was the difference. democrats tended to be more sympathetic to the idea it was going to be messy. and they still stood with the president whereas republicans were more critical. i think we'll see how this plays out. obviously this isn't over yet. the white house is betting on the idea, i think, that they can finish the evacuation, get out and say this -- the president is maybing his argument we don't want to see more loss of life. the reason we're getting out. they'll keep coming back to the big argument. we don't want to see more loss of life. it's not our place to be there. they're hoping that argument does resonate with people. to rachel's point they think ultimately the top issues with the american people, the economy, covid. >> surging inflation, covi

not certain how many of them are still taking that position after this week and calls from the white house and calls from leadership and after messages i and others have delivered. i think we are coming together. you know, the point is the house and the majority of the senate, including the committees of jurisdiction, were essentially cut out of the so-called bipartisan deal written by a rough group of senators, self-appointed, and endorsed by the white house. i pointed to the fact that if we are going to be serious about climate change, they left out a lot of things from the house bill that dealt with climate change, that dealt with resilience, dealt with reconnecting communities, dealt with wastewater, drinking water and lead pipes. i am looking for opportunities. we are talking with the senate, the white house, on how we can build those things in reconciliation. but if we were to pass this bill as is, i don't know if we would see reconciliation come out of the senate. i think we have to hold them both -- you know, why such a hurry for the infrastructure bill? it doesn't go into effect.

or the trump white house?hey want to set that precedent? >> are they going to allow that precedent to come in. because in the not nonzero chance that democrats lose the house and the senate and the republicans go, we want an investigation on this, that, and the either. that puts their back against the wall. they certainly have folks, biden's certainly not ripping up his documents and throwing them into the trash. there's really more of a paper trail in the biden white house so they have to be careful. >> whether that was his kids, whether that was his chief of staff, anyone around trump and/or trump himself because they were so willy-nilly and not careful, i do think they might be selective like they have before in perhaps not wanting to protect that executive privilege because of how dangerous everything surrounding the january 6th insurrection was. and that i think holds it apart from any other incidents of wanting to protect the executive privilege. so, we're going to have to see exactly what's in those doc

one is taken by a white house photographer. his fourth day as a white house photographer. he was around here somewhere. he shoots over the limousine. he has the great shots. he's shooting pictures that way. that was helpful. and i've come here a few times but coming here is difficult because if you notice this thing, obviously, it wasn't here that day. they built that to protect the president. then you have the little, umm, garden area. reagan was 15 feet when the shots were fired. they interfewed the agents and witnesses. i was able to know what everyone said they did. everyone said they did. and that usual kind of matched up with what the video and the picture showed. and that was helpful. it was also helpful to get in their heads of what was happening. i interviewed them all too. and i also got the -- some fbi reports, for example, there's a great fbi report. no one has seen reagan's fbi interview shortly after the shooting. he gave an interview to the fbi agents. that was sealed. and i got it unsealed through my foia process. and reagan was coming out. he said he was c