the former white house communications director turned trump critic and that makes scarlet. politics. welcome to politicking on larry king he briefly worked as the white house communications director for the trumpet ministration he's now part of an effort to remove the president he once served he sam blaney scaramucci joins us for a one on one from new york right now anthony with 50 days to go how would you rate the presidential race. well obviously you know the vice president is ahead there's less undecided voters this time larry than there wasn't 2016 but remember i did work for the president so i know how capable he is i think that the it would be important for the vice president and the people that want to defeat president trump to run through the tape here and play to the last seconds of the game and so i don't think there could be any let up. mr trump is a formidable guy how could anyone still be undecided that's a good question but you know there's a 50 by my grandfather had a great expression about polling there's 15 feet between you waiting and the polling booth at l

genaro socky was the white house communications director -- jen socky was the white house communications director in former president barack obama's administration and a spokesperson at the department of state under john kerry from 2013 to 2015. and above all, i hope she has in mind, she's probably the mother of two humans under of age of 5. which i think is almost extraordinary identifications, i've heard, in a bio. so format, each will speak for roughly five minutes. moderated round with me of anye noying questions for about 20 -- annoying questions for about 20 and then q&a with our twitter verse email and whoever else is listening. jen, without further ado, let me turn it over to you. >> well, thank you, aaron. and charlie and amanda, it's great to join you for this panel. i'm sure i'll learn a lot from both of you. you had a lot of questions in there to unpack. but it made me think about back in 2007 and 2008 when i was working for then-senator barack obama. as charlie and amanda and probably you too, aaron, will remember, you know, part of the reason why he became a nominee was bec

after the pandemic and if a change in the occupant of the white house will change anything joining me now is former white house communications director and founder of sky bridge capital and to the scary movie a lifelong republican who is supporting democratic contender joe biden in november election thanks so much as honey for coming back on the show i should just say that this bob woodward book is out bob woodward. alleged live coverage of dick cheney a defender of the bush administrations you think we should believe anything he has to say about the whole joe that's an interesting characters asian as the bush administration didn't like him i mean he's written in any of these books going back to the nixon administration. the journalist you know he's fair to everybody and he ministrations fear that he's very unfair so listen the guy spoke to him mr trump spoke directly to were you can listen to tapes you can judge the daves for yourself with or without a book you can see that there's something seriously wrong there then you reckon.

elizabeth: white house communications director alyssa farah, thanks for joining us.e appreciate it. >> thanks so much. elizabeth: sure. coming up the president now defending hiss supreme court nominee judge barrett blasting the media as quote disgraceful. they're going after her catholic faith. they're going after her family. former whitewater counsel robert ray weighs in on this one, next it up trump we have noticed some comments made in the media about my incredibly qualified nominee amy. "the new york times" said her religion is not consistent with american values. she is catholic. that covers a lot of people. it is a very disgraceful thing to say. i thought we settled this 60 years ago with the election of john f. kennedy but seriously they're going after her catholicism. i will stand with her, fight with her and we will make sure that these attacks stop because they're really, it is unprecedented. they're fighting a major [ thunder rumbles ] [ engine rumbling ] [ beeping ] [ engine revs ] uh, you know there's a 30-minute limit, right? tell that to the rain. [ be

like the pandemic and if a change in the occupant of the white house will change anything joining me now is former white house communications director and founder of sky bridge capital add to these guys a lifelong republican who is supporting democrat condemned joe biden in the members election thanks so much of her day for coming back on the show i should just say that this bob woodward book is a woodward allegedly a confidant of dick cheney a defender of the bush administration's you think we should believe anything he has to say about the whole joe that's an interesting characters asian as the bush administration didn't like him i mean he's written in any of these books going back to the nixon administration. the journalist you know he's fair to everybody and the administration's fear is very unfair so listen guys to him mr trump spoke directly to were you can listen to that state you can judge the daves for yourself with or without a book you can see that there's something seriously wrong there and you recognize that trump from the trump you worked with in the white house. well i think the change you know michael collin

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former white house communications director anthony scaramucci. tweet of yours that got me thinking about this larger concept that i think this entire sort of -- this part of this campaign against trump is having an impact. you said, hey, there's more to come. i think it was something like that that you tweeted. my apologies -- >> my surprises this week. you know, michael is going to be delivering more. rachel maddow tonight. and then you -- >> the grievances -- >> -- coming from the american military. >> and i want to get at this. this is all coming from people who at one time were close to the president, like yourself, who have decided this is the best way to sound the alarm. what i find interesting is how the president chases every one of these cars. >> well, he has to because if he doesn't chase every one of these cars and discredit these people and use his bully pulpit to do that, then he's going to have this onslaught. remember, chuck, the president has to do two things. discredit every person that's saying this about him, and then he also h

. >>> white house director of communications alyssa farah, a.g.arr slamming covid shutdown rules one of the greatest hit on religious liberty than slavery. >>> covid-19 vaccines, are they ready, are they safe. >>> former gop gubernatorial candidate john cox on another big joe biden flip-flop and another big mistake. teleprompter unscripted as concerns now grow if biden is doing this on the campaign trail now, how will he perform debating president trump in two weeks time? fox news contributor deneen borelli on 43 cops killed in the line of duty so far this year as democrats push to quote, reimagine policing. plus retired i.c.e. acting director tom homan on border patrol warning about a massive spike in drug trafficking now on the northern border with canada as violent drug traffickers continue to exploit covid shutdown rules and chaos in u.s. cities. thanks for joining us. i'm elizabeth macdonald. "the evening edit" starts right now. ♪ elizabeth: first we take you to minneapolis, now hit with historic gun violence and shootings. dozens now dead. 1

tarmac there in that clip that you just played in the dark of night but he's also had the white house communications team refuting it on twitter and as well we have heard the from the president on twitter where he says the atlantic magazine is a dying magazine and they made up a fake story to gain relevance it's very clear that the president is concerned about this and already his opponents are seizing on it in an ad an attack ad this is certainly going to be a problem for the president who continues to deny that he referred to service members as losers or even war hero who the now dead former senator john mccain how much damage could this do to the president's campaign for reelection. lot of damage because he needs the military vote in order to win reelection he had a big time in 20162020 though it looks like there's some trouble for the president according to a recent poll asking about how the military viewed its commander in chief joe biden seemed to get a more favorable rating as a potential commander in chief as president by about 6 percentage points last time in 2016 donald trump was ahead of

welcome back in paul one we heard from donald trump's former white house communications director that's the scary movie about what he sees as the existential threat trump poses to the united states but many in the country some of the 70 percent who identify as christians see trump as not only their president but their savior ahead of an election that coincides with the 400th anniversary of the mayflower arriving in the united states well today is the 400th anniversary of the start of that voyage before 1000 restrictions were in place we spoke to martin with his book trump and the puritans is out now and welcome to going underground tell me about the book and why november's election is not the discontinuity that we're led to believe by some mainstream media outlets or basically our premise is that you can only understand the modern united states in 2020 but understanding something of its deep story where people think they're coming from how they read their history even their mythology and if you look at the united states purely as a modern phenomenon then you come away leap in mused so d

house oversight fourth of a ds the white of hearing on supremacy. role of foreign policy in presidential politics charlie cook of the cook jan, formereport and white house communicationsirector. holdsersight subcommittee a hearing on interior department police cameras. acting s including the head of the u.s. park police. first er: the presidential debate between president donald trump and former vice president joe biden 9:00 easternght at from cleveland. c-span.ve on pres. trump: biden is recklessly against his vaccine. for reckless, it's political reasons. biden, his whole deal is shutdown.ic vice president biden: in his own by bob woodward. the president knew back in this was an extremely dangerous communicable disease. think about it. ow many people, how many empty chairs around the dinner tables ecause of his negligence and selfishness. night er: watch tuesday on c-span, listen live on the c-span radio app. journal -- continues. host: we are back with rick wilson, the cofounder of the anti-trump group the lincoln project. he is here to discuss with us why his group opposes preston trumps reelection.

white house. >> former white house communications director anthony scaramucci was hired six months into trump'scy to weed out disloyal leakers. >> there were three or four people that were probably the biggest leakers and he wanted them gone, so the loyalty goes one way towards him. >> this demand for loyalty could be a problem when it seems to supersede ethics. >> loyalty means you do what i need you to do, even if it is unethical. you work for me. that may be a good strategy if you run a small, private business, but it is absolutely unacceptable for a constitutional officer in a republic. >> he immediately tests you to see if you are going to be on his side or if you are going to be his enemy. >> what do you say about -- >> it was an unfamiliar situation for someone such as andrew mccabe, then acting director of the fbi. he had served four administrations at the fbi for both republican and democratic presidents. >> as career government servants dedicated first and foremost to the constitution and to the rule of law, those folks are not going to simply cede to the president's will. >> does wor

let's get more from alyssa the white house communications director and assistant to the president.at to see you. a lot is happening in the last few minutes. tax returns released on the biden's side. talk about the breaking news of that from president trump's perspective and this back and forth looking for ear pieces for listening devices, president trump wanted to ask for. >> absolutely. it's interesting that biden is releasing tax returns. he's been in government for 47 years. president trump has been a jobs creator. he has businesses all over the world. he made a living bringing jobs to others while biden has been a career politician. i am not surprised he is comfortable putting those out. what i am interested to see is how much he profited since being out of office. the president's taxes are under audit. he will put those forward for the american public to see after the facts. on this question of ear pieces, the president wants transparency. every day he takes tough questions from the white press corp. he is ready to go and wants that same transparency for his opponent who has a

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hogan gidley also part of the white house communication team, says i was there in the -- in paris, and the president never said those things. i could go on, there are a few other white house staffers who say similar kind of things, but it just comes down to a he said, she said, democrats seem to be seizing upon this -- >> i mean, look, the president today will divide on twitter about never calling john mccain a loser. now he is asking us to believe that, okay, he's lying about that today, we have the footage, but he is not lying about the other stuff? he must think we are all suckers, and the amazing thing to me is how little respect he has for the intelligence of his own supporters. >> jon: john bolton, obviously, no longer a great supporter of the president, but he said he was there in the room, and you may have heard the clip at the beginning of the show, he said the call not to fly to aisne-marne cemetery on air force one, i'm sorry, marine one, was recently because of bad weather, nothing to do the president's desire not to go there. >> all right, this isn't collocated. general du

i did issue a statement througho the white house communications person, which they did put in the articlet was published, and despite me saying exactly what i just said, i have never done that kind of advising, it is not part of a strategy, no one is advising the president on that, and that is not the president strategy, they put that in the article after it was published and then they went on to attack it as if it were still fact. i guess the denial has nothing to do with anything. >> tucker: huh. and it goes about saying, they didn't have any actual evidence of it because you didn't say it. >> it is a complete lie, so i don't know if somebody actually said that, but i can't control what anyone else says. i can only control what i say. >> tucker: it's just remarkable. and like you, the rest of us are learning an awful lot. thanks for coming on tonight. >> okay, thanks. >> tucker: well, we told you a couple of nights in a row about a tape of the brother of the governor of new york, who has a tv show, talking to michael cohen, america's sleaziest lawyer. a revealing tape, we are going to p

joining me now is former white house communications director, anthony scaramucci. i always wonder who is paying for those when rallies and the travel and air force one and the gas. and jet fuel and all that. hey, anthony. how are you? >> well, you got $200 million missing from the campaign. they can't find the money. but that's a whole other topic. >> bringing the heat, right away. >> come on. i mean, these guys are unbelievable, at this point. but you want to get inside his brain. let me tell you how it works. okay. it's a cycle of deceit and it's a cycle of lying. and so, now, that rpm of that engine has really revved up and so this is a fascinating time for everybody, from a historical perspective because the demagogues always told the biggest lies. and they said the bigger the lie is, the more likelihood the people would believe it. so now, he's in a triple-down zone, don. he's caught on tape. basically, telling you he has a callous disregard for innocent lives of his fellow citizens. he only cares about himself and his political ambition. he is caught on tape

jen psaki was the white house communications director and former president barack obama's administration from 2015-2017 and spokesperson at the department of state under the of state under the secretary of state john kerry from 2013-2015. and above all, she's probably the most of two humans under the age of five, which i think is almost extraordinary identifications, i've heard come in a bio. format, each will speak for roughly five minutes, moderated round with me the of annoying questions for about 20, and then q&a with our twitter verse e-mail and what else is listening. so jen, without further ado, let me turn it over to you. >> well, thank you, aaron, and charlie and the men to come it's going to joy for this post. i'm sure i will lot from both of you. you had a lot of questions in their to unpack but maybe think about back in 2007 and 81 81 is what before then senator barack obama and as charlie and amanda and probably you to remember part of the reason why he became the nominee was because of his opposition to the iraq war. very much a foreign policy issue the essential on that pr

we debated that the secret the former white house communications director who is very anti-trump now. joe joins us who is pretty pro trump. >> you knew it was deadly and you said you didn't want to panic the people but you said it was six times more deadly than the flu. why didn't you tell people to wear the mask? why was that such a big deal to the united states president. failure and a healthcare crisis has led to the debacle in the economy. he has the worst record on jobs and he is in a bone crushing recession. >> at the time the president was speaking, the scientists in charge of the coronavirus response were telling people not to wear masks. the president actually told people on march 31 that they should think about covering their faces. he was ahead of the experts on that one. the idea he was somehow trying to mislead the public is an accurate. he also told jim acosta publicly on television that he did not want people to panic. i think he made the right decision. >> of course that was one of the bombshell stories from this week. another one was this atlantic article which cited

we're also learning as well just moments ago, white house communications director was appearing on foxand she has said that the trump administration is going to be moving on trump time is what they say on the supreme court nominee. that it is going to look to move in the coming weeks. and so there really is a sense of urgency, if you will. all of this draped in politics and the stakes could not be bigger and more impactful when you think about who the next nominee will be. at the same time, anderson, you just look around here, and there have been hundreds and hundreds who have gathered to pay their respects to this legal superstar, to this civil rights icon, and someone who has really fought for the equality of so many people. i've had a chance to speak to many of the folks out here who have been here early in the morning. they've offered flowers and balloons and there's a huge chalk mural that's in front of the supreme court offering their condolences. but also, a call to action, if you will, to make sure that her legacy is truly alive. anderson? >> suzanne malveaux, appreciate you of

the white house communications director asked if the president had something to clarify. >> i don't thinkhat there is anything to clarify. he has told them to stand back. this president has searched federal resources when violent crime needs it. he does not need any vigilante. that's not what we have called for. what we call for our democratic mayors and governors to call up the resources we are prepared to make available. >> the committee for presidential debates issuing a statement just a short time ago saying for the next debate they are going to put in place more structure in order to facilitate "a more orderly discussion of the issues." the next debate will be october -- in miami, a whole smaller audience asking questions, dana. maybe not as much latitude for the candidates to go off the rails like they did last night. >> dana: i think that is possibly true. we will count the days. let's check in with the biden campaign now. peter doocy is live in alliance, ohio. hey, peter. >> good afternoon. joe biden left this train station about an hour ago. an hour from now he will be in pittsbu

. >> joining us now is former white house communications director anthony. it is stunning that the head of communications with an agency and handling the pandemic would be spreading conspiracy theories about people in his own agency. >> well, anderson, it's very hard for me not to feel pain watching that. you and i are both empathic people. i feel bad he's going in that direction. i think when it's corrupt at the top it spills over into everybody and this will be a case study in that so the president is under cutting the cdc but he would praise something like what michael caputo is saying. that's what happens. you're getting a hornets nest descending on the president. the reason why he under cuts people is that he's figured out that a very large group of the population is list ping se list and him only. so when dr. redfield is out there under oath telling the truth that the mask is as important as the vaccine, he's got to under cut him because his only hope to win the election is so secure the base and increase the participation in the base. that's why he's

former white house communications director is anthony scaramucci and he joins me now. anthony, good evening to you. >> good evening. >> as i said, it was really -- it was a scathing -- it's another, major, scathing rebuke, i should say, of the president from his own vice president's aide, olivia troy. a former staffer on the coronavirus task force. she says that president trump could have saved more lives but he could have cared -- he only cared at the election. i want you to listen to this. and then, i'll get your response. >> when we were in a task force meeting, president said maybe this covid thing is a good thing. i don't like shaking hands with people. i don't have to shake hands with these disgusting people. those disgusting people are the same people that he claims to care about. >> is that what he really thinks about his supporters, anthony? >> so, let's go back, a second, don. he -- he said that the troops are suckers and losers. he says that the reporters -- i'm sorry, the -- his acolytes, his supporters, are disgusting people. his niece has said what she sa

. >> joining us now, former white house communications director and founder of sky bridge capital. anthony, good to have you here. >> thanks, ana. nice to be here. >> we have now heard from the president himself that he has intentionally been concealing the true threat of this virus and misleading the public. what is your reaction to this new cnn reporting that appointees at the department of health and human services have been altering cdc documents so they don't contradict the president? >> well, you know, i'm concerned about that. it is predictable, because he thinned out the ranks of people that have ethics, and so that is predictable, what's going on. but there's supposed to be layers of checks and balances in the system, and so one then has to ask what is the justice department doing under william barr in terms of oversight or who are the inspector generals that can look at this nefarious behavior and call it out. we know the department of justice has had an associate there resign over the pressure on russian interference. now you've got the situation in the hud. it's just pa

white house. let's start with something that's making news that's not in the book. you and melania trump used private email to communicate other about official white house business? >> you know, unfortunately, we did. i think it was out of our control. >> why? why? after everything that came up with hillary clinton? why would you and she do that? >> because my contracts were being held up. it took a very long time. i think everyone sort of wanted me out of the white house, so without a contract i couldn't get my assets, i couldn't get a computer, a phone, couldn't get access to anything. we kept trying. it's not -- we tried. >> i see. so what you're saying is you didn't have access to a white house email. >> not for the first -- i would say first month. and then it got turned on and off, then it got completely shut off. >> but she did. why? why after her husband believes that hillary clinton should be locked up for that and had people chant that at his rallies, why would he be okay with his wife -- and why would the first lady be okay using a private email? >> does it really surprise you? >> well, the double standard. ar

. >> joining us now is former white house communications director anthony scaramucci.hony, thanks for being with us. whatever michael caputo's going through personally, and i sincerely hope he is okay. he's a human being with a family. it is stunning that the head of communications for an agency with a huge number of employees and a huge budget and handling the pandemic would be spreading conspiracy theories about people in his own agency. >> well, anderson, it's very hard for me not to feel pain watching that. i mean, you and i are both empathic people. so there's a lot of things going on in there. i feel bad that he's going in that direction. i think what happens is when it's corrupt, at the top, it spills over into everybody. and this is going to be a case study in that. and so, you know, the president is undercutting the cdc, the head of the cdc dr. redfield. but he would praise something like what michael caputo is saying. and so, that's what happens. you are getting this sort of hornet's nest of sycophants. the reason he undercuts people is he's figured out that

white house to refute yet another story. absolutely a major cleanup operation happening by the white house communications team but the president himself giving a 7 minute rebuttal in the darkness he got off a plane from another campaign event he is really furious over this he feels that he has done more for veterans than any president in recent history but given the fact that the allegations are serious that the president called not only a name soldiers losers but also a decorated war hero john mccain the former senator who died in 2018 a loser in some of donald trump's own comments are hard to refute given the fact that he did call john mccain a loser back in 2015 in a tweet now some of the president's comments already making their way into political ads that are attacking the president also attacking the fact that he himself never served in the military but got multiple deferments for both college and also for medical reasons never watching very carefully the u.s. president is set to appear in the next hour to meet with the leaders of kosovo as well as serbia to sign an economic agreement we're also watching his rival joe bi

. >> my next guest says the next step for donald trump is crystal clear, his former white house communications director, anthony scaramucci tweeting this. release your full financial records, donald trump, so you can clear your name. and anthony scaramucci is joining us now. i mean, do you really think that he will release all of his records? >> well, there was a little bit of biting sarcasm there because obviously he's not going to release his records, and he can't call it fake news. the only fakeness is coming out of his mouth directly. he's dead to rights here on this. if he was, in fact, on the right side of this, of course he would release all of his information. so he's not going to do that. and what this does is it calcifies the negativity around him. it's like pushing through an open door where you're looking there at this garishness of his taxes combined with what he said about the nation's military, and it's siding with the vice president, obviously, so he can't win back those people with this type of behavior. that's where i think we are right now. >> you know, you have, you worked

. >> joining me now is anthony scaramucci, former white house communications director under this presidentgood to have you back on this show. i'm curious to your reaction from that statement from michael cohen and even beyond that. is donald trump enjoying being president? does he want to stay in power? would he break precedent and create a constitutional crisis to do so? >> i think he enjoys some of the aspects of being president. i don't think he loves the way the media treats him, things like that, or the grueling process of governing. sitting in that seat of power, i think he enjoys that. i think michael is right, he would stay in that seat of power, and if he could figure out a way to tear up the constitution, he would obviously do that. people close to him having good conscience are speaking out against him and trying to warn the american people about what he's like. in addition to michael last week, take a look at the bob woodward tapes. that's like a warning sign if there's ever a warning sign, right? i said last night the surgeon general's warning label for the country of what the

. >>> former white house communications director anthony scaramucci is here. thanks for joining me. know this is a hard day for you and a lot of people you know. and those you lost. god bless their memories and god bless you and your family. i have three minutes. give me a mix of how rudy led and what rudy thinks of how the president is doing on this. what you think versus the reality of what the woodward tapes show us. >> chris, i love the mayor. you love the mayor, i'm glad to see him back on the show. he was a savior to the city back then. i'll always remember what he did. i think he's misguided on what the president's doing. i'll remind the mayor he was reading roy jenkins biography of churchill when the towers came down. it inspired him. i would encourage him to go back and read that biography. what the president is doing right now is the opposite of what clutch ilwill do. the woodward tapes are everything you need to know about this president. it's a surge ing general's warning label for the future of the world and the mayor doesn't see it the way i see it. i love him anyway.

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if i was a comes professional in this white house, a communications professional, in this white houseaid it is not worth going out to say these things. let the story die. i think i know why the story didn't die. the president of the united states likely said to his communications team that he was so frustrated that so many insiders are speaking out against them, i wouldn't be shocked if he ordered them to go out there and do this. and they willingly followed his lead. but i want to tell you, chris, it's not just the vice president that's now lied about this. and kayleigh that's now lied about this. and keith kellogg, that's now lied about this. the president, himself, told multiple lies about olivia troy. just the other day, he said she was low level. she wasn't. she was his top adviser on terrorist attacks and pandemics. >> he desikind of described her if she was an administrative assistant. you know, for sure, that's not true? >> that's not true because she was in a very senior job to the vice president of the united states. we -- would you want a back-bencher, a back-bencher, to be