i moved on to the office of personnel management where i was white house liaison. omb.ost: explain who russ is an did you work with him? guest: one of the most talented men in the movement. formerly the director of omb. he has been confirmed to be director again. host: the office of mem

i moved on to the office of personnel management where i was white house liaison. omb. host: explain who russ is an did you work with him? guest: one of the most talented men in the movement. formerly the director of omb. he has been confirmed to be director again. host: the office of management and budget. guest: that is an office that worked with the office of the executive office of the president. they are charged essentially as putting a break on the agencies and governing none with respect to the finances. >> good afternoon, everybody. i brought some heavy hitters with you today. today marks one month of president trump's return to the oval office. there is no denying this administration is off to a historic start. the president has signed 73 executive orders. more than double the #by joe biden and quadruple the #by barack obama over the same period. they have ended burdensome regulations, sealed the border, unleashed our domestic energy sector, eliminated d.e.i., stop the weaponization of government fraud and abuse. reinstituted america first trade and or and poli

only the white house and the attorney general will be able to interpret laws that the agencies base their rules and regulations on. and one more. these agencies must set up white house liaison offices to regularly consult and coordinate policies and priorities with the white house. so, for example, the federal election commission, which is independent of presidential control so that it can serve its election integrity mission without political influence. this executive order would change that. and the federal trade commission, which jeff just spoke about, and the fcc, they are charged with defending consumer and investor rights and protecting market integrity. these are agencies that are supposed to be able to do their duties without political pressure from big corporations. this order would chip away at that independence, jake. >> all right. rene marsh and jeff zeleny, thanks to you. with us now, former federal prosecutor elliot williams. also joining us, cnn's kasie hunt, who's going to anchor a brand new show starting march 3rd, right at this time slot, the arena, with kasie hunt as the lead, slides to the 5:00 hour. casey, as i said before, welcome to 4:00. >> it's an h

where i was white house liaison, then chief of staff. host: westheading o.p.m.? guest: o.m.b.t: explain who russ is and did you work with him? guest: yes, russ is one of the most talented men in the movement. he was formerly director of m.b. at the end of trump one. and now has been confirmed to be director again. host: we should explain. office of management and budget. guest: that's an office that works out of the office of the executive -- executive office of the president. they are charged essentially as putting a break on the agencies, and governing them with respect to their finances and the money flow. russ comes from an entire background on the hill. then later on at heritage. and really has one of the few all encompassing views. i'm very excited about the work he's going to do. he has invade himself against the deep state and i think that for a number of us this really is a central mission in our life. to return government to the people. to let us have a handle on this monolithic government. host: paul danes with us taking your phone call. it is phone lines as usual.

ladybird and lyndon came into the white house, what they did is the east wing really became part the west wing's political operation. those had liz carpenter as their liaison. she came from the texas crowd. they had known her for many years. she was ladybird chief of staff of before that worked for the vice president and she knit together pretty quickly at the end of the day because of her relationship with each of them a very tight knit political operation that spanned the east wing and the west nixon in and blows up. how does that what does look like and does it ever does the east wing ever become part of the west wing's political operation? and i'm teeing up a discussion of watergate in case you didn't notice. yes, yes, no. and that's it's to you, liz carpenter. of course i will say lbj, of course was very supportive of lady bird and they had that good relationship. and i think carpenter did a lot to bring things together. so when nixon comes in so delegated this to haldeman, to bob haldeman, chief of staff, to john erlichman, who is his domestic counsel and domestic advisor, later, unfortunately, the germans as some of you might remember, them they wer