and the idea about a white jihad, why can't white nazis become "jihadis" and sacrifice themselves? it's a boy in his bedroom, when you have racism, fascism and nazism, the end result to all of this will be violence. they no longer want to stand in elections, theyjust want other people to go out and kill people. and i think they're right to have that terror threat level where it is. you mention elections. one final thought on where we are right now. in europe, we see the success of far—right political movements in mainstream politics. you see it in hungary, you see it in italy today. to you, is that a flashing red signal of warning, or is it in some senses actually a safety valve, where some of these ideas are being mainstreamed in a way which robs them of their danger? well, i'd say, to a degree, that some of those ideals are already mainstreamed by this government. but i think in some of the countries where you see the far right getting into power, into parliament, you have to understand that culturally, fascism isn't particularly a foreign idea to them, particularly in italy, pla