some reaction from the whitehouse. >> the whitehouse is reacting much the way it reacted the last time the congressional budget office came out with one of these blockbuster reports saying millions of people would lose coverage. they're saying the cvo hasn't always been accurate. so everyone just look in the other direction please ignore that. the other point that the statement makes is that the president said he would repeal and replace the affordable care act, and this bill doesn't and therefore that's what they want. now there are some in the senate that actually say the bill doesn't repeal obamacare, it's more of a modification of the prepreexisting structure, and that is one of the objections. there are many out there. >> woodruff: stu, what are the pressures on these republicans as they decide what to do about this. >> i think they're in a very difficult position, a rock and a hard place. on one hand, they want to accomplish something. they have the mandate from conservatives, republicans, trump barracks to dtrump backer.

senator whitehouse: i appreciate all your work on this problem. the ferocity of some of these gang organizations is horrifying. nd -- thank you. >> senator durbin. senator durbin: thank you, mr. chairman. mr. lloyd, i would like to ask you about a program called the central american minors program. that was established under the previous administration. in 2014. so the children from the northern triangle facing threats of extreme violence often from ms-13 and other gangs, could go through security screenings in their own countries and safely rejoin their families living in the united states. without making a dangerous solo journey. approximately 11,000 children who applied in these three countries since the program started. 2800 have been admitted. can you tell me the status of that program today? mr. lloyd: i would have to defer to my colleagues at the department of state. that's where the program is housed. apart from incidental contact with it and various information sharing, i wouldn't be able to give too much information on that. senator durb

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>> protesters gather add cross the street from the whitehouse after president trump announced us is out of the paris climate accord. >> we're getting out. but we will start to negotiate and we will see if we can make a deal that's fair. >> president trump said his predecessor negotiated a pollution reduction deal that hurts american works area gives other country as i free pass. >> this is less about the climate and more about other countries gaining financial advantage over the united states. >> world leaders who support the 2015 agreement voice opposition with france, germany and italy saying it cannot be renegotiated. >> we all share the same responsibility. make our planet great again. >> even the trump team was divided on the accord with secretary of state revrm tillerson and president daughter ivanka opposing the withdrawal.

executive privilege although the whitehouse has not yet so far done that. and then dan coats said he didn't really have a reason for why he wasn't getting an answer to the question whether president trouble asked him to weigh in on the f.b.i. investigation. >> rose: what is the whitehouse planning in, many people think this will stretch out over months and we hear much talk of a war room and hiring of attorneys. does the whitehouse expect this to be a longstanding, i mean a longrunning drama and they have to be prepared to fight fight fight for the rest of the trump term? >> well, maybe not for the whole term although who knows. but yes, they are prepared for a rather protracted struggle because you not only have the house and senate investigations going on, which are live and ongoing which have these kind of public moments, but then of course you have the special council looking into this. there is the potential on any given day for the newspapers to break some version of this story they have to react to. unlike any other presidency we've seen before, a pr

sheldon whitehouse, senator whitehouse tonight has said that just from his external observations of whatblicly know, it seems to him that michael flynn has already started cooperating with the fbi and with prosecutors. is that your impression from where you sit? >> we have been talking for some time among ourselves about that likelihood because very frankly and bluntly, michael flynn faces a ton of legal culpability here. he has pretty clearly lied to the fbi, lied to intelligence agencies on his disclosure form, the defense intelligence agency perhaps, and committed other serious falsehoods that put him in serious legal jeopardy. and as you may know, the penalty for violating the law prohibiting these false statements, which is 18 united states code, 1001, is five years in prison for each violation. so the likelihood of his cooperation is very high. and whether he will be truthful in cooperating, whether in fact he knows enough to justify some kind of agreement with the prosecutors, i think will be told by time. but i agree the likelihood of his cooperation is very high, if not right no

chairman, i'm not able to comment on conversations with high officials within the whitehouse. that would be a violation of the communications rule that tea have to -- >> just so i can understand, is the basis of that unruliness basis on executive privilege? >> it's longstanding policy the department of justice not to comment on conversations that the attorney general has had with the president of the united states for confidential reasons that really are founded in the coequal branch powers and the constitution of the united states. >> so, just so i'm understanding, does that mean are you claiming executive privilege here today sir. >> i'm not claiming executive privilege because that's the president's power and i have no power to claim executive power. >> what about conversations with other department of justice or other whitehouse officials about potential pardons? not the president, sir. >> mr. chairman, without in any way suggesting that i have had any conversations concerning pardons, totally apart from that, there are promise of communications within the department of ju

whitehouse: okay. see you tomorrow. >> thank you mr. chairman. , everyone istions asking, you can see the kind of concern. nsaier this year, the terminated their bout collection. there has been a number of in regard tosues the incident. they did a broad overview of the seven into program and -- of the 702 program and decided it was too great a breach of privacy. when was the last time the fbi took a comprehensive review of using 702 data? >> sir, we have measures in place. first of all, we train our -- sen. leahy: last time -- when is the last time you did a comprehensive search of how you use it? mr. ghattas: we have regular audits we conduct internally. , whoe also overseen by doj does audits as well. i believe the last instance was monthly. sen. leahy: was that a complete on it of the whole program? -- audit of the whole program? mr. ghattas: it was not, it was a segment. sen. leahy: so i am looking for the whole program. mr. ghattas: i would have to get back to you on that. sen. leahy: could you get back to me today? please? if not,

whitehouse: thank you very much, mr. president. as you know, i come weekly to the senate whenever we're in session to give my "time to wake up" speech, talking about climate change and quite often talking about the climate denial campaign that prevents us from taking action, and quite often talking about the campaign finance problems in our country that make climate denial effective. here in congress, it is not hard to connect the dots from campaign finance to climate denial. the supreme court republican majority's disastrous citizens united decision was requested by the fossil fuel industry, and the fossil fuel industry took instant advantage of it, almost like they saw it coming. the industry and its front groups instantly used their new power conferred by citizens united to come after politicians , republicans in particular -- ask bob engliss -- who backed responsible climate policies. citizens united created new american dark money emperors, and no surprise, the new emperors love their new political power. their first payoff wa

but dana, it's been interesting and this is also something else that senator whitehouse pointed out in that interview with wolf, even after the firing, the president has been in touch with mike flynn and he has said, stay strong. stay strong. what was your read on that? >> or at least got a message to mike flynn that he should stay strong. we're not exactly sure -- no, you're exactly right. who knows. you know? it could be that he's trying to be loyal to a friend and somebody who was extremely loyal to trump during a campaign and at times where trump had a lot of po of people fleeing his orbit when he made some pretty big mistakes. and michael flynn did not do that. now, on the flipside, i totally agree that donald trump doesn't generally just offer what seems to be almost unconditional support and loyalty just out of the goodness of his heart. there might be something else there that we gijust don't know about. but that is why the concept or notion of flynn potentially talking to the feds in order to get, you know, to get either immunity or a lighter sentence for whatever it is that h

the whitehouse issued a statement calling decision a clear victory for national secure i and 0 day ban will apply to most citizens in ira iran, somalia, syria, yemen and countries the trump administration calls terror prone and supreme court says lower courts that blocked the ban went too far in limiting president's authority. >> second week of testimony in the corruption trial of philadelphia district attorney seth williams began with a top member of the philadelphia police department. deputy commissioner joe sullivan told the court today williams approached him about mohamad ali businessman and friend of williams that testified last week. sullivan testified williams believed ali was being provided at the airport and subjected to increased security measures. sullivan toldor ors he talked to counter part at fbi and they warned him not to get involved. >> going back i had been over many times how the information up foameded and how i received it and who i received it from i certainly realized i moved forward in good faith. >> and testimony in the case resumes in the morning. >> and the

the whitehouse issued a statement calling decision a clear victory for national secure i and 0 day ban will apply to most citizens in ira iran, somalia, syria, yemen and countries the trump administration calls terror prone and supreme court says lower courts that blocked the ban went too far in limiting president's authority. >> second week of testimony in the corruption trial of philadelphia district attorney seth williams began with a top member of the philadelphia police department. deputy commissioner joe sullivan told the court today williams approached him about mohamad ali businessman and friend of williams that testified last week. sullivan testified williams believed ali was being provided at the airport and subjected to increased security measures. sullivan toldor ors he talked to counter part at fbi and they warned him not to get involved. >> going back i had been over many times how the information up foameded and how i received it and who i received it from i certainly realized i moved forward in good faith. >> and testimony in the case resumes in the morning. >> and the

that's democratic senator, whitehouse. listen. >> if you draw conclusions as a prosecutor about what we can see from the flynn investigation, all the signals are suggesting that he's already cooperating with the fbi and may have been for some time. first of all, they had a debt to rights on a felony false statement for the statement they took from him in the white house about his kislyak conversations. second, comey reported one of the things the fbi does with cooperators is get them to go up and clean up areas of noncompliance. flynn will never be hired by a foreign government again. he cleaned up the foreign registration filings. third, the reporting on the subpoenas is one hop away from flynn. he's like the hole in a doughnut of subpoenas. finally, one of the mor talkative people in trumpland is going to be dead silent. that's what prosecutors strongly encourage cooperating witnesses to do. this would be just another bit of leverage for the prosecutors to make sure he was cooperating and giving truthful testimony to avo

. >> that was senator sheldon whitehouse acknowledging that ousted national security adviser michael flynn committed a crime by lying to the fbi. our panel is back with me on the set. eugene, it strikes me as this is one of those washington stories that's been discussed privately now for months. >> yeah. >> but this was the first time when senator whitehouse said this on tv yesterday for the first time and this morning on "morning joe," publicly. >> it's been discussed privately but always in the context of has he or hasn't he. no one has known. i have never heard anyone come out and say, well, yes, it looks like or i think he is cooperating now. i am not a former u.s. attorney, so i don't have that experience to rely on. i -- and i don't know what other signs the senator is looking at that tell him that. i am not sure that i have seen those signs. so i don't know. maybe he knows something i don't know. >> i'm going to bring in julie davis, white house correspondent for the "new york times." this part of your beat. i thought what the senator was saying was that he had committed a cri

i'll talk to democratic senator sheldon whitehouse of the judiciary committee. our correspondents and special guests, they're standing by with full coverage of today's top stories. let's begin with the mixed signals coming from president trump and his lawyer on whether he's under investigation in the russia probe. and a possible answer on whether the president recorded his talks with fired fbi director james comey. first let's go to our cnn white house correspondent jim acosta. so mum is the word, i take it, at the white house, jim. >> that's correct. a white house briefing was postponed to sidestep questions on the russia investigation. >> mr. president, are you under investigation? >> reporter: no surprise that president trump offered no answers on whether he's under investigation on the russia probe, though he had this to say to the president of panama. >> the panama canal is doing quite well. i think we did a good job building it, right? we did a very good job. >> even though the president raised the specter that he's under investigation himself when he twee

whitehouse: thank you. madam president, i would ask unanimous consent that -- i understand that senator mccain is potentially coming to the floor. i will yield to him as the chairman of the armed services committee if he appears, and i'd ask unanimous consent that the remainder of my remarks be connected in the record to this first part of my remarks should that transpire. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. whitehouse: thank you. madam president, the united states of america has suffered an unprecedented intrusion into our american presidential elections. in january, our intelligence agencies disclosed that agents of russia on the orders of president vladimir putin engaged in a massive election influence campaign throughout 2016. this effort strikes at the very heart of our representative democracy. all americans should take this attack deadly seriously. congress had to act against such interference decisively. by strengthening economic sanctions against the russian gangster state, we hit them wh

typical was ian whitehouse, who recorded his thoughts for us on camera.ll have the utmost sympathy and sadness for the victims and their families. however, nothing can justify the appalling viciousness of the haranguing of the prime minister in an interview by emily maitlis. it was more like a kangaroo court diatribe, based on assumptions of responsibility and guilt which hadn't yet even been discussed, let alone proven. other viewers contacted us with their concerns about reporting from nearby the grenfell tower. and the allegations and emotions expressed by residents. here are the views of david shute and alan cummings. the bbc was on the spot for immediate eyewitness accounts, in competition with rivals which reached fever pitch, recently. and because of that their obligations for broadcasting accurately and with accountability is being compromised. they have proved, in the event, to being totally inaccurate, highly emotive and often personally influenced accounts broadcast repeatedly on the bbc news loop. i think that in the recent grenfell tower trag

let's begin with that interview with senator whitehouse. michael, to you first.ur former boss. would you agree with his assessment that flynn is cooperating with him? >> maybe. if flynn has a story to tell. his lawyer long ago when asked for immunity said, my client has a story to tell. if he has to story to tell and that story has to involve people above him in the pecking order, and that really is the president in certain measure, if he has a story to tell and that story probably has to relate to collusion, then maybe the senator's point is well taken. >> you don't sound totally convinced. >> well, because we don't know anything about what flynn has to say. what we know about flynn is he's in trouble in the eastern district of virginia for his failure to register as a foreign agent. we know that he has been lying to people from collusion and the sf 86, the security form and has got two other people breathing down his neck so we know he's got a story to tell about himself. so the question is, who else does he have to tell it about. if we know that, we'll know if

typical was ian whitehouse, who recorded his thoughts for us on camera.ll have the utmost sympathy and sadness for the victims and their families. however, nothing can justify the appalling viciousness of the haranguing of the prime minister in an interview by emily maitlis. it was more like a kangaroo court diatribe, based on assumptions of responsibility and guilt which hadn't yet even been discussed, let alone proven. other viewers contacted us with their concerns about reporting from nearby the grenfell tower. and the allegations and emotions expressed by residents. here are the views of david shute and alan cummings. the bbc was on the spot for immediate eyewitness accounts, in competition with rivals which reached fever pitch, recently. and because of that their obligations for broadcasting accurately and with accountability is being compromised. they have proved, in the event, to being totally inaccurate, highly emotive and often personally influenced accounts broadcast repeatedly on the bbc news loop. i think that in the recent grenfell tower trag

buchanan served as a speechwriter and senior adviser to presidents nixon and discusses his book whitehouse for the battle that made and broke a president and a divided america forever. i wrote him a memo saying i think you ought to testify. you have to keep the tapes and conversations, i didn't think they were going to be that damaging to us, keep the tapes in the foreign-policy, the stuff you need. i said to take the rest out and burn it. i didn't know at the time this idea and he said it would be an abstract enough justice. i didn't recommend burning the tapes. they were his property that was executive privilege and everybody knew it and he simply said in effect i think he would have moved right through it. he said if he burned the tapes he would have survived and i think that's right. >> senato >> senator marco rubio spoke about the need to combat organized crime in latin american countries. this was hosted by the american enterprise insti,

whitehouse: thank you, mr. president. donald trump has decided to withdraw the united states from the paris agreement on climate change. this is a decision that may prove to be one of the worst foreign policy blunders in our nation's history. there is no denying the mounting threat of climate change. we observe rising seas, warming global temperatures, and melting glaciers and ice sheets. yet the president cast aside an historic global agreement forged through american leadership. americans now ask what to do next. for individual citizens, my answer is simple: take action. join an environmental group. support science and scientists. organize in your community. many americans have been publicly pledging to meet the goals of the paris agreement through movements like the "i am still in pledge." every action, big and small, counts. american corporations must also act, and, unfortunately, they have been awol in the politics of climate change. this has been so frustrating because so many of them have great climate principles.

and the whitehouses. >> what is next on capitol hill? next week the senate intelligence committee that is looking and heard from comey today will listen to the special counselor robert mueller. but it might be a closed door session. there is a lot of moving parts to this. we stay on top of it for you. michelle? michelle: thank you. today's hearing was a must watch event that had hundreds if not thousands gathering on the hill after midnight to line up for a shot to be in the only 86 people were allowed and they were taken from people who already had congressional i.d. at the white house, president trump watched the testimony on tv. alongside his legal counsel. but all across the city and the d.m.v. people were glued to it. watching it like the super bowl or the nba playoff game. a lot of folks clued to the screen. stephen tschida was in a watch party. what did you find? i bet it was a packed house. stephen: no kidding. hundreds of the people showed up here before they opened at 9:30. so many coming because they want to share with the oth

i mean, senator whitehouse's view is interesting.me degree of credible with someone with a law enforcement background, but at the same time we're looking that the from the outside. if it turns out flynn is cooperating with the fbi, i do agree that it would be a very significant development in this investigation. but at the same time we've all learned we need to be very careful about speculation, anonymous sources and the like so i'd be careful not to get too far out in front of this one. >> senator whitehouse has a lot of credibility but he also has an axe to grind. i want to share more what he said about this. >> one of the more talkative people in trump land have gone deadly silent and what that's what prosecutors strongly encourage cooperating witnesses to do. >> just because he's silent doesn't mean he's made a deal an president the least, he's lawyered up and a lawyer would say, michael, no talking. >> that's right. at this point you can pretty much guess he's weighing his options and taking the advice of counsel and deciding no

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senate judiciary committee member sheldon whitehouse in an interview with wolf speculated flynn's silence so far means there could be a deal in the works. >> all the signals are suggesting that he is already cooperating with the fbi, may have been for sometime. >> reporter: it's a possibility fired fbi director james comey alluded to during his testimony june eighth. >> would closing out the flynn investigation have impeded the overall russian investigation? >> no. unlikely except to the extent there is always a possibility when you have a criminal case against someone and you squeeze them and flip them they give you something else. >> reporter: he hasn't indicated whether flynn is cooperating or not. house investigators don't know precisely when flynn traveled to the middle east, but they cite a discrepancy between this june 10, 2015 testimony he gave to the foreign affairs committee. >> i just came from a trip fairly extensive trip to the middle east and this was one of the big issues that came up. >> reporter: and the fact that he listed an august 2015 start date on the financial discl

>> protesters gather add cross the street from the whitehouse after president trump announced us is out of the paris climate accord. >> we're getting out. but we will start to negotiate and we will see if we can make a deal that's fair. >> president trump said his predecessor negotiated a pollution reduction deal that hurts american works area gives other country as i free pass. >> this is less about the climate and more about other countries gaining financial advantage over the united states. >> world leaders who support the 2015 agreement voice opposition with france, germany and italy saying it cannot be renegotiated. >> we all share the same responsibility. make our planet great again. >> even the trump team was divided on the accord with secretary of state revrm tillerson and president daughter ivanka opposing the withdrawal. epa chief pruit lobeid to get out of the agreement. >> all the voices were heard and president made informed and presidential decision. >> americans could feel affects to bottom line. >> rest of the world may literally put on a tariff and say we're embracing c

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yes, we've passed the blueprint bill that i just mentioned with the help of senator portman, whitehouse, and ayotte. but, unfortunately, we're moving ourselves backwards. medicaid expansion has helped 1.3 million people receive treatment for mental and substance abuse across the country. i know this bill's cuts to those important services for people struggling with addiction have real concerns in states like west virginia, and states like ohio. and the problems with this bill, of course, go beyond medicaid cuts. as a mom from belgrade, minnesota, told me, she asked me to oppose this bill in honor of her daughter and the thousands of other children diagnosed with cancer each year. she worried that the waivers would undercut protections for people with preexisting conditions, threatening to make health insurance unaffordable for families like hers who have children or had children with cancer. one man from minneapolis told me that what this does is downright scary. those were his word. he is scared because he is self-employed. he has a preexisting condition, and gets his insurance on the

whitehouse: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from rhode island. mr. whitehouse: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent to speak as if in morning business for up to ten minutes. the presiding officer: without objection. mr. whitehouse: thanks, mr. president. mr. president, however loud, persistent, and powerful the climate denial operation has been, we have to remember that it has always been built on lies. it is a huge fortress of lies stacked upon lies, lies about the science, lies about the scientists, lies about doubt, lies about costs, lies through phony front groups, lies about where the money comes from and who's pulling the strings. this fortress of lies protects a subsidy to the fossil fuel industry that the international monetary fund puts at $700 billion per year. for big, big money, you can do big, big lies. and they do. these have been the biggest lies of our generation. but to paraphrase the great reggae jimmy cliff, the bigger you lie, the harder you fall. and to paraph

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. >> senator whitehouse. >> senator cruz i passed my time to you. >> thank you senator white house. much appreciated. thank you to the witnesses for being here. the model is to kill, rape and control. just a few months ago, this horrific fact was driven home in my hometown of houston where they were charged with kidnapping three teenagers and murdering one in an apparent satanic ritual. after the girls were kidnapped and before the murder they were forcibly held in an apartment and drugged and sexually assaulted. i want to ask each of you, this is part of a larger problem and so from a federal perspective, how bad is the situation in the state of texas? how big a threat is it and what more do we need to do to protect against ms 13? >> thank you for the question. thank you so much for your leadership in this area. this is an important area for us. the threat is everywhere. not just in texas. it's in every urban community and rule community, everywhere in the united states. the department of justice in our colleagues are taking the spirit seriously. i think we've talked a little bit a

. >> shellen whitehouse and dianne feinstein were two of the main movers between 702. they were in the weeds so the congressman is right. a lot of support both democratic and republican. >> this is really not a political issue and i might just note not to increase he ate but the committee on homeland security, they have had an amazing track record in legislation and that can only be done in a bipartisan fashion. last year 88 does pass the house and already this year 45 bills have passed committees so i wish all the other congressional committees had a track record that yours does on actually that was -- legislating. >> i have to say a lot of the credit goes to mike mccaul the chairman who is actually right over there and the ranking member as well and the other members on both sides of the aisle. his leadership comes from the top. we are not going to run a political committee and it shows you he does not. >> i can testify to that also. under mike's leadership, the homeland security committee is really a committee of congress that auctions the way congress should in a b

senate committee member sheldon whitehouse in an interview with wolf speculated flynn's silence so far means there could be a deal in the works. >> all the signals are suggests that he is already cooperating with the fbi and may have been for some time. >> it's a possibility fired fbi director james comey alouded to during his testimony june 8th. >> would closing out the flynn investigation have impeded the overall russian investigation? >> no. well, unlikely concept to the extent there is a possibility if you have a criminal case case against someone and you bring it and squeeze them and flip them and they give you information about something else. >> but law enforcement sources have not indicated in flynn is cooperating ornd 37 house investigators don't know precisely when flynn traveled to the middle east but they cited a discrepancy between the june 10th 2015 testimony i gave to the foreign affairs testimony. >> i just came from a trip to the middle east and this was one of the big issues that came up. >> and the fact he listed an august 2015 start date on the financial disclosure

. >> senator whitehouse. >> thank you, chairman. secretary mnuchin, welcome. we heard your testimony before the finance committee that the president's tax reform plan would be paid for, i quote you here, with economic growth and base broadening. on the same day omb director mulvaney said the president's tax reform plan would be deficit neutral without regard to growth, which one of you is accurate? which will be the plan? >> so, first let me say that we're hard working on tax reform, although we did put out a very short overview. the devil's in the details and we hope that's something we can release soon. >> answer my question. >> i understand that. when the budget was done we didn't have tax reform done, so mulvaney didn't have tax reform to put into the budget, okay? now there's lots of different -- >> you'll agree with me that whether dynamic scoring is a figurement of the republican imagination or whether it's real, you can't count it twice? >> we have no intention of counting it twice. as i said before, i can assure you that when we come -- >> we agree on

. >> senator whitehouse. >> thank you, chairman. secretary mnuchin, welcome. we heard your testimony before the finance committee that the president's tax reform plan would be paid for, i quote you here, with economic growth and base broadening. on the same day omb director mulvaney said the president's tax reform plan would be deficit neutral without regard to growth, which one of you is accurate? which will be the plan? >> so, first let me say that we're hard working on tax reform, although we did put out a very short overview. the devil's in the details and we hope that's something we can release soon. >> answer my question. >> i understand that. when the budget was done we didn't have tax reform done, so mulvaney didn't have tax reform to put into the budget, okay? now there's lots of different -- >> you'll agree with me that whether dynamic scoring is a figurement of the republican imagination or whether it's real, you can't count it twice? >> we have no intention of counting it twice. as i said before, i can assure you that when we come -- >> we agree on

key member sheldon whitehouse speculates that flynn's silence so far could mean there is a deal in theng that he's already cooperating with the fbi and may have been for some time. >> reporter: it's a possibility fired fbi director james comey alluded to during his testimony june 8. >> would closing out the flynn investigation have impeded the overall russian investigation? >> no. unlikely except to the extent -- there is always a possibility if you have a criminal case against someone and you bring it and squeeze them and they give you information about something else. >> reporter: but law enforcement services have not indicated if flynn is cooperating or not. house investigators don't know precisely when flynn traveled to the middle east, but they cite a discrepancy between this june 0 10, 2015 testimony he gave and the fact he listed a 2015 start date on the form he submitted after he was fired. reuters is claiming the fbi is also looking at flynn's business partner in its inquiry as to payments from flynn's clients to his consulting company were lawful. it was controlled by a turki

sell done whitehouse, a senator from rhode island, he believes it's possible that general flynn may beooperating with fbi investigators. was that a key part of how watergate came together? a lot of people came up with doing criminal time. were people making calculations about when they were going to cooperate? >> absolutely. the first real break came when james mccord, the security chief for the committee to re-elect nixon, started to cooperate by writing a letter on the eve of his sentencing when he realized he could get a deal at his sentence. he wrote a letter saying there was perjury, there were higher ups involved. this was something that the judge had believed throughout the whole trial but -- and which woodward and bernstein had probed throughout the whole trial. >> he comes through on the eve of his sentencing to spill the beans that there's a larger conspiracy in the hopes of saving himself in a sentencing standpoint? >> absolutely. i'm sure that john dean saw that if he got in first with a good deal, because it's always known among the criminal defense bar, that the first in