and also with the old whitel fantstores, we need to have incentives out there. we need to think about how to fill those spaces. >> sure. i think commissioner dooley is referencing no. 8. and so it touches in the beginning on the concept of the use sizes. so like the report said 85% of formula retailers 3,000 square feet or larger, et cetera >> there may be some more to that in terms of providing spaces better suited for independent retailers and potentially discouraging the formula retailers. there should probably be a multi-step process. one being trying to establish those spaces as non-conforming, so they can't be further expanded. also providing for incentives or resources to get a professional architect that is familiar with reuse into the space, to reenvision, if it's possible to make into multiple spaces. the common from landlords it's economically imfeasible. so to establish a process where it's truly impossible to make the case to the building inspection commission or planning commission or any number of different bodis to get certified, in which case th