so, whiteness metastasizes across the body of american and western ideas, and not just there, bill the way. to really provide, i think, an inglorious met afear for how dominance works and how people in the dominant culture or the dominant race or the dominant gender or the dominant sexual oren attention must always pay attention or the class must pay attention to how the seduction of unanimity, one voice, one vision, one way of seeing things has to be shattered by the fact there are real existing human beings who don't fit any any stereotype or category you have and they deserve the same recognition and respect as anybody else. [applause] i don't know it that's what you were asking. >> host: that is exactly what i was asking. want to talk about accountability and what it looks like. who gets to be the arbiter of accountability when it comes to abuses of white privilege? i think we had a shared experience this week with bill maher. using the n-word on his show, and you went on last night to talk to him, had a very thoughtful conversation, and then he sat down with ice cube and had anoth

keith boykin, you worked in the clinton white house, so you know what it's like to have special counsel involved in something and to have an investigation metastasize from one thing into something completely different. what is your view of what is happening? because this president is taking a different tact. twitter wasn't around, i know, but still. >> this is unprecedented from the '90 or anything that happened before. we're not even 190 days into the new administration and we have a full-fledged criminal investigation, apparently, not only of the campaign, but now of the transition and even of the white house itself, the current administration, the president of the united states. at the same time, the president is doing everything wrong. you're not supposed to, as david gergen said, you're not supposed to discredit the special counsel, you're not supposed to as a president of the united states go out and tweet every day about it. you're not supposed to tell your attorney general and your advisers not to continue the probe. >> but you're also not supposed to win an election the way that he won. >> exactly. >> and he proved everyone wrong. besides

the white house is working, as you know, trying to claim executive privilege to stop him. also, the special prosecutor, mr. mueller, his investigation is metastasizing so quickly. i can see a possibility that one of two things happens. he asks the former fbi director to delay his testimony or truncate what he may otherwise be saying. something to look at between now and next week, either of those two things happening. >> this all can and probably will change by the time the day comes that he is to testify, you think. do you think it is going to be -- since you mentioned the president asking for executive privilege, is it better to block him or let him do it? if the optics of blocking him may be worse than him actually testifying. >> no good answer to that question for president trump. either way he goes, it is going to be big trouble. look, it doesn't take anybody out of elementary school to realize president trump's presidency is in a heap of trouble. today, these bombshell revelations keep cascading. it's been 24 hours at most since the president said he isn't going to abide by the paris accord. you had the stories today, the special prosecutor is