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christian whiton joins me now.able to get his release done dealing with putin? do we know what was traded? >> no. it's been abstract, but president trump said not very much, and that'll be in line with what happened during trump's first term -- [audio difficulty] the release of hostages, he clearly deals in terms, and i think this is good of personifications of people as opposed to ab restaurant ideas and those people held by regimes, for example, iran or in this case putin's russia that tells us a lot about what those regimes are. so i think we know that already. this is something trump thinks about. we also know this is a reinforcement of that, that russia is willing to negotiate, willing to talk with trump. david: yeah. let's go back to gaza and that report we just heard from greg. it does appear that hamas realized they were in way over their head when they said we're not going to to release any more hostages for the near future. there is some kind of negotiation. do you think it'll be negotiated out before pre