i was like, "whoah, what's that?", i didn't use it right away. then a couple of weeks after with friends, it was fascinating. you go, you see the train, you hide and you really literally go like right in front of you. no one sees you. no one is looking to see someone. we were there hiding. i would try to tell you the story. it would be hard for me to hide the words. let me document it. i was not that good. >> 2005/2006, paris, parts of the suburbs, the outskirts of paris, parts of that are literally on fire. did you know a lot of these people. you are watching it on television, the riots of that - of that period. what were your thoughts? >> you know, in - so the year before that -- >> yes, so we are talking about 2000 -- >> 2004. for the first time i had the biggest photograph in the projects. getting close to each other. it's a dangerous project in the suburb. maybe a friend. and i take it. >> what were the images. the images of life, the using of life. not portraits, groups and jumping behind bars and buildings. one guy holding his camera like