think her booklets us peer behind the statues that adorn our public squares and lets us see the people whola made them. let'sng us hear the voices of t communities on the losing end or theseoe public displays. i forget which figure turned human beings to stone, but she turnset stone back to flash, an she does it in a way that gets past the often simplistic takes that sooc many of us heard in t aftermath of george floyd's murder. you're a scholar of art crime, and much of your research has -- how did you come to write this book? >> well, it's essentially because my girlfriend makes really good negronis. so i had a couple of those very casety cocktails and opened twitter. so don't tweet after drinking unless you want a book deal. and i saw the video of a toppling of columbus in front of the state paul state capital, and i jokingly wrote a tweet about that. that tweet went viral, and i got, you know, denounced by tucker carlson for leading armies ofon vilists to topple statues. >> what was that? >>> it was something like as someone who studies the deliberate destruction of properties, i just ha