if the meter goes, whoof, you have a problem. >> take one of my cards, give me a ring use one of the city moisture meters. it has 2 probes to stick in there. i was going to ask the way to handle dutch guterce. >> dutch gutters. in san francisco we have a particular problem. houses are all next to each other you can't drain our house to the side because there is somebody's house there. you drain the water toward it and you catch the water. you put a board on the edge and the water hits to the front and the back. it's a common situation here. >> what i have seen in the past with the dutch gutters they have a really nice shingle roof and they come if in with the cap sheet 90 pound organic. which is not strong at all. it doesn't take much to break it a life of 10 years. these days with the new materials that have come out. i have samples. if you notice this is conventional asphalt here. it's really hard. it will crack when it's cold it will break in and a half. this here is asphalt that's treated with styrin and changes the characteristics. now instead of being hard and can brittle tell

. >> hundreds of people at the obama administration officials and lobbyists and no official record whoof. >> the nber of fund-raisers for the president have benefitted hugely from the energy loan program. >> isn't the president opening himself up to a charge of hypocrisy on this? >> a litany of people who have raised so much money who are clearly lobbyistings. >> he can't even made a token effort to keep his campaign promise of openness and transparency, another lie. >> hasn't even made an effort to keep to has promises. i think in this case, that's true. do the voters care? >> they care a lot. we tested that in grand rapids, michigan, which i think will be ground zero for the campaign. they found that number 1; you hear barack obama in his own words. you watched him say it. number 2; clip after clip after clip. number 3; it matters because they expect you, when you are president of the united states, to keep your promises. they assume that people will break promises in the election campaign. but once you get elected, you say what you mean and mean what you say. that's why that ad was so

. >> hundreds of people at the obama administration officials and lobbyists and no official record whoof. >> the number of fund-raisers for the president have benefitted hugely from the energy loan program. >> isn't the president opening himself up to a charge of hypocrisy on this? >> a litany of people who have raised so much money who are clearly lobbyistings. >> he can't even made a token effort to keep his campaign promise of openness and transparency, another lie. >> hasn't even made an effort to keep to has promises. i think in this case, that's true. do the voters care? >> they care a lot. we tested that in grand rapids, michigan, which i think will be ground zero for the campaign. they found that number 1; you hear barack obama in his own words. you watched him say it. number 2; clip after clip after clip. number 3; it matters because they expect you, when you are president of the united states, to keep your promises. they assume that people will break promises in the election campaign. but once you get elected, you say what you mean and mean what you say. that's why that ad was