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we also have the wic program, which is a program that provides food vouchers for our families after they have their children, up to age 5 they are able to receive food vouchers to get milk and cereal for their children. >> it's for the city, not only our clinic, but the city. we have all our children in san francisco should have insurance now because if they are low income enough, they get medical. if they actually have a little more assets, a little more income, they can get happy family. we do have family who come outside of our neighborhood to come on our clinic. one thing i learn from our clients, no matter how old they are, no matter how little english they know, they know how to get to chinatown, meaning they know how to get to our clinic. 85 percent of our staff is bilingual because we are serving many monolingual chinese patients. they can be child care providers so our clients can go out and work. >> we found more and more women of child bearing age come down with cancer and they have kids and the kids were having a horrible time and parents were having a horrible time. how do p

that's food stamps, school lunches, wic. so if congress decides to cut the federal food programs by 6%, 12%, there's no way that churches and charities can pick up the gap. we need to also get our government to do its part to end hunger. >> david beckmann of bread for the world, many thanks. >>> in the horn of africa, on its east coast, 500,000 hungry refugees from somalia fled this year into neighboring kenya. now, because of fighting there, they are escaping into ethiopia, where fred de sam lazaro found some of them earlier this month. here is his report on the disaster that refuses to go away and some people in minnesota trying to help. fred begins in east africa. >> it's here at the ethiopia- somali border that some 400 refugees arrive every single day, most of them women and children, most of them fleeing not just famine, but fighting. so far this year, 135,000 mostly women and children have registered here in this harsh but promised land for refugees. they have suffered for months and walked for days to get here. there

staggering this jobs crisis has been with the youth being disproportionately affected now or and of how wic talked about his economic education to give us our kind of boots on the ground student perspective this viewer said i got my degree in two thousand and eight discounting wasn't questioned only the discount rate austrian economics wasn't even mentioned keynes was the man who explained why we don't need savings now students who feel their economics education is limited like that you obviously did could take the heckler seventy three is advice heckler seventy three said this taking up the banner of rebel economist i've personally steve keen's work to force professors to change the curriculum of the education system in my area more people need to do that prof keane is the steve by of economics there may be other guitar wizards out there but none that hit the new. it's like now if you don't know who steve is well very is there's a picture now we love to play with some of his music unfortunately we can't because of some legal reasons but if you go check it out on your own you will see how t

. >> yes, they are using the wic program. >> david, we talked about how they helped you with the downnd they taught you how to buy a house and be a good homeowner? >> yes, i had to go through a class where they told us about the lenders and how to create a budget and how much house you can afford. there was's a lot of different things i was exposed to to maintain the house. >> you have a big gala coming up in march. it's the annual fund-raising gala. tell us about that. >> it's march 14th at the marriott, we will have our annual gala, and it will be the 40th, and we will have honorees, but we encourage people to come out and support us. these are the operating dollars, and the dollars that we don't have enough money in the budgets to do what we need to do, we fall back on the generating dollars. >> tell us about other donations you need. >> we have so many services, some of my colleagues will say that they are riding holistic approaches to our clients, and we do, whether it's the home or the food for senior households, or whatever the need is, if we cannot provide it we will tell you

food stamps, you can't buy alcohol, tobacco, on the wic program has a very, very restricted menu.nefits without strings attached, that's not accurate at all. so all i'm saying is on this, this is just saying you have to do your part to get back into the job place. >> you wouldn't mind, but a lot of people have that question, when it comes up to drug testing other folks, would you be okay? you think they should drug test all members of congress. >> i think members of congress can do it voluntarily. >> not required, though, even though taxpayer money is paying your salaries. >> if it's interfering with the job i'm comfortable with it, and i have to tell you, i have a question myself when you're flying an airplane and driving a piece of equipment and doing surgery, it's very, very relevant. 56% of the employers use it right now, but do we need to have it in absolutely every case? i don't know that we do, but absolutely, that's what hearings are all about and i invite that kind of input. upon. >> it's a conversation a lot of people are having and we hope we can continue this conversat

and then you see them, they can't get any benefits but their children, they get welfare, they get wic, they get medicaid and everything. if you're going to make a better life for yourself, while you're having four, five, six kids, you know, that needs to be looked into. host: thank you so much for your call from new york city. talks about ability to collect social benefits when you are here illegally. is this fair, is it safe to say? guest: it's been a source of debate lately because there are state laws put in place, for example, the very strict alabama laws that forbids colleges from accepting illegal immigrants. and i'm assuming she's talking about illegal immigrants there. i also want to go to the point of economic drivers. and i'm going to go back to the chamber of commerce here because they do point out that immigrants are economic drivers. whether or not they're reinvesting their money into u.s. or into their home countries, immigrants, as employees, are good for the u.s. economy. host: you just saw one of three stories found in the papers this morning that have to deal with th

why is it taking a wic mother six or seven visits to see the doctor?something is wrong there but there's also something right because women are speaking out about that process, and i think the more eyes on the prize, the stricter the penalty the better off the opportunity that that happens and in power in the states to make those to restrictions really helps and i think the standard of care is a remarkable tool. thank you. >> thank you, gentlemen. as we heard in mr. west's testimony not only not in helvering -- in power in but in this case we heard we discouraged and prevented them from taking hold. so we certainly need to do much better and i think as we wrap up here a final comment and that is that we need to remember there are two issues at hand. first it's protecting tax dollars and while certainly we are glad to have the improper payments rate for medicare to be down we are still talking about $22 billion of the government payment this last year that we know what, and again, using mr. west's case, for his individual here like efforts to uncover th

millions of seniors living on fixed incomes and for those comment on domestic feeding programs such as wic whose benefits won't buy as much when food prices go up. it's difficult to project how much the proposed hours of service rules will ultimately cost consumers, but we know there will be increased costs that, unfortunately, will have to be passed along. to conclude, we believe the current hours of service rules are working well, and we see no quantifiable reason to change them. the rules on the books are easily understood, they're promoting safety and compliance. over the past seven years, fatalities and injuries are down by more than one-third. as a matter of fact, fatality and injury statistics are at the lowest levels even though the number of miles driven is increasing. our industry strongly supports the current hours of service framework, and it should be retained. thanks for allowing me to participate. >> thank you, mr. keysaw. mr. mac kick, e. >> mr. chairman, members of the subcommittee, my name is rob mackie, and i'm the president and ceo of the american bakers association, ab

why is it taking a wic mother six or seven visits to see the doctor?something is wrong there but there's also something right because women are speaking out about that process, and i think the more eyes on the prize, the stricter the penalty the better off the opportunity that that happens and in power in the states to make those to restrictions really helps and i think the standard of care is a remarkable tool. thank you. >> thank you, gentlemen. as we heard in mr. west's testimony not only not in helvering -- in power in but in this case we heard we discouraged and prevented them from taking hold. so we certainly need to do much better and i think as we wrap up here a final comment and that is that we need to remember there are two issues at hand. first it's protecting tax dollars and while certainly we are glad to have the improper payments rate for medicare to be down we are still talking about $22 billion of the government payment this last year that we know what, and again, using mr. west's case, for his individual here like efforts to uncover th