just remind people — ranil wickremesinghe was prime minister at the time, when gotabaya rajapaksa leftieve he obviously does not have a mandate to be as president. but how does this relate to the question that was asked by talal about how you can reduce the bloated size of the public sector? exactly. it has to be — sorry, harini, please, go ahead. you're being very polite with each other now. laughs. no, we are polite. she's my colleague! the public sector certainly... iwe...our position is the publicl sector needs to be strengthened — strengthened doesn't mean expansion or bloating, - and if you look at why - the public sector has been bloated and if you look- at in which sectors it's been bloated, it's in areas, - in resources where it's people who are really unproductive, who've been chucked - into the public sector. there are lots of vacancies in areas that actually needj to be filled. i've got to bring — dushni, you've got to break up this bilateral at the side here. dushni, your response? i mean, ithink sri lanka has a public sector that's far too large. there is no dispute about

you saw the president resign, the prime minister became president, president wickremesinghe, and thehe state institutions in sri lanka, is that a thing of the past? i mean, you mentioned the role of artists in forging a future, and that's what saskia fernando, who owns an art gallery here... and what saskia says is that, "artists in the country have found an opportunity "to use their art for greater purpose "in response to the country's "economic and political turmoil." so can people like you be in the vanguard of this new sri lanka where people demand a better government to deliver them a happier and more prosperous future? yes, i think we are. actually, you know, this is a really good question. it takes me to what i'm really looking at now. i'm proposing the government to change the higher education system in a way because... you know, i have a colleague, whose name is suren raghavan, he's a minister of higher education here, and we are working together because, you know, when you look at sri lankan problem is, you know, we... it's the humanities and social sciences. we teach those

and we actually put forward our country prosperity plan in the cop27 — that was the president wickremesingheorward the prosperity plan. and in the prosperity plan, we have so many projects that are from renewable energy to agriculture to irrigation, everything — it's pretty much like a green pathway to the economic recovery of this island. all right. so the answer is, yes, sri lanka is preparing. absolutely, yes. 0k, hemantha, do you agree with that? i actually feel if you really. want to respect the climate targets based on the ipcc| reports and we have to go by zero emissions by 2050, so if you want to do that. by 2040, you have to definitely remove all the coal—power - plants, which the 620 countries all agreed, i and then the transport sector — it's not only the energy, - electricity, but the transport sector. i i think we are very much behind these targets at the moment. l one of the reasons is that| although there was a huge advocacy from the civil society and the experts in sri lanka, l to ceylon electricity board to change their long—term generation plan, to bring more and more renew