supervisor wiener? wiener present. mr. president, you have a quorum. >> thank you. colleagues, given the fact our colleague supervisor farrell and his wife just had a baby, kane farrell who clocked in at 9 pounds 8 ounces if we could have a notion to excuse supervisor farrell today. without objection, he shall be excused. ladies and gentlemen, would you please join us in the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> unless a member would like to discuss an item it shall be severed and considered separately. >> colleaguesv, any items to be severed? roll call on items 1, through 3. >> supervisor olague? olague aye. wiener aye. supervisor average los? avalos? aye. campos aye. chiu aye. supervisor chu aye. supervisor kim aye. supervisor mar aye. there are 10 ayes. >> the item is passed on the first treed and the resolution is adopted. item 4. >> item 4 is 120898, successor agency to the former redevelopment agency.

>> olague aye. >> supervisor wiener? >> wiener aye. >> supervisor avalos? >> aye. >> avalos aye. >> supervisor campos? >> aye. >> campos aye. >> president chiu? >> chiu aye. >> supervisor chu? >> chu aye. >> supervisor [kho*-erpb/]? >> cohen aye. >> there are ten eyes. motion approved. why don't we go to our 3:30 special order and i understand supervisor olague has a special commendation. >> in working with a lot of the tenants in the public housing and coop, some of the federally and publicly funded housing, i have found that the many times that the people who really hold things up there for the community are the women. so whether that is miss holings at plaza east or adrian or miss jones in west side court, so i wanted to honor and recognize all of the work that miss jones was committed to when she was a resident at west side courts where she was, i believe for over 15 years. so it's my pleasure to give commendation to elizabeth jones the former president of the tenants association since 2007. miss jones is a great advocate for residents and the west side

supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you, mr. president. a few questions.he sheriff takenn>ña position 15.105(e) is invalid vague? are you taking that position? i believe i read that you took that position(x in court. so my question is, is that your position? >> yes. that has been our(ytoú position. we don't intend to argue it. we submitted it. if i couldnr8íÑ answer. we think in a situation like this, any time there's any ambiguitynljhc in a statute ito be resolved in the light most favorable to the sheriff. >> supervisor wiener: so if we -- if your position is -- or given your position that this provision is unconstitutional -- is unconstitutionally vague and therefore invalid, is it your position that we don't have the power to remove someone from office based on subsection e? >> yes. but we also are going to face the political reality that undoubtedly you're going to make a decision today. >> supervisor wiener: i understand. but your position is that no one can be removed under this section because the voters adopted an unconstitutional provision? >> i

>> no. >> supervisor wiener? >> wiener, aye. >> supervisor avalos? >> no avalos no. >> supervisor campos? >> no. >> campos no. >> president chiu? >> aye. >> supervisor chu? >> aye. >> chu aye. >> supervisor cohen? >> [kho*-efrp/] aye. >> there are six ayes and five nos. the resolution is adopted. item 24. >> resolution authorizing the fire department to accept and expend a grant in the amount of approximately $1.50 million to upgrade and repace it's self-contained breathing apparatus inventory. >> roll call vote." on item 24 supervisor elsbernd? >> elsbernd aye. >> supervisor farrell? >> farrell aye. >> supervisor kim? >> kim aye. >> supervisor mar aye. >> supervisor olague? >> olague aye. >> supervisor wiener? wiener aye. >> supervisor avalos aye. >> supervisor campos? >> aye. >> president chiu ? >> chiu aye. >> supervisor chu? >> aye. >> supervisor cohen? >> aye. >> eleven ayes? >> the resolution is adopted. item 25. ordinance amending the administrative code. >> president chiu. >> thank you, mr. chair, years ago in 19819 passage of the apartment c

wiener? >> present. >> please call item number 2. >> item 2 is approval of minutes of the july 24, 2012 meeting. >> there is an action item. is there a member of the public that would like to speak? seeing none, public comment for item 2 is closed. you have before you the approval of minutes for the july 24 meeting. [speaker not understood]. can we take that without objection? without objection. item number 3? >> chair's report, this is a commission item. >> i have a brief report today. this is our first meeting coming back from the legislative recess of the san francisco board of supervisors. i just want to make a couple of notes. first, on september 14th, a number of us, specifically commissioners carmen chiu, christin a olague and scott wiener were on the regional transportation plan which was actually held at the county transportation authority's offices. we had a very interesting discussion. the discussion involved members of abag and other regional players in this effort. and the discus

supervisor kim chamber, supervisor wiener. supervisor wiener willn'a$e submit. supervisor cohen.carmen chu.k/Ñ submit. president chiu will submit.cií roster that concludes roll call for introduction. next> president chiu: let's go to genzsi/$tu!lic comment, two minutes per person. first speaker. >> good afternoon,h3 corporate rape of the public library don't give money to the friendsñy>r÷ of the library don't accept money from the friends of the library. i have a little trepidationxvgd about getting up here and talking about the library today. but of course it's not really.'k9s about the library. it's about what happens to our institutions when they are run by7-bív our increasingly government by private public-privatei partnership. i can't completely -- or at least0dkse properly talk about what jus

supervisor wiener? >> if i could just say, thank you, because i have been -- well, before i was in office i have been following this project and interested in it, given the importance for the lgbt community and for as along as i can remember there was a dispute between the city and uc about who just owned this and i always wondered why we can't just resolve this and i'm thrilled that the city and uc have been able to resolve it in a really commonsense way. thank you. >> and thank you the city. >> thank you. is there anyone else from the public that would like to speak? >> miss jackson? >> thank you, espinola jackson bayview hunters point and i would like to say in listening one of the concerns that have i with this city and i have mentioned it many a times, especially when you talk about housing and when there are funds from hud money, there is no guidelines of section 3 of hud guidelines. and dealing with the local hiring, you know, this city, as large as it is, with all of the city departments that it

as articulated the bright line articulated by jefferson hur. >> supervisor wiener: i'm sorry to pickon our tax collector. i will apologize to him afterwards. but it's too easy an example to use. if our -- if a future treasurer tax collector, not our current one, while in office, on the side engaged in bank fraud, and again for whatever reason, clearly committed bank fraud but the prosecution falls apart so there's not a conviction leading to removal under a separate section, it would be your position that he would not be removable under section e and would have to be either recalled or defeated in the next election? >> yes, that'slcl5 correct. >> supervisor wiener: and same if an animal care and control commissioner were running a dog fighting ring on the side, they would not be,f+!y removable, unr this section would have to not again assuming no conviction for whatever reason. respectfully, supervisor, i think we can come up withn4qt m, many hypotheticals to explore the mayor's position or our position. and, you know,zqíaáá we're left with though is the law. chartereejj4 section, a

supervisor wiener. >> thank you so supervisor mar for bringing this forward. i was surprised that we could take positions on ballot measures, but i was told by the city attorney that we were able to do so. i would make a motion to amend and add a second resolve that states further resolved that the san francisco board of supervisors president iss its strong disapproval on recent attacks of prop 30 and suggest that the supporters of propositions 30 pawn 38 refrain from attacking one another. second by supervisor mar and can we take that without objection? without objection that is the case a on the underlining resolution, same house same call, without objection. >> madame clear, would you read the memoriams.

so for example, for the size of the unit that supervisor wiener mentioned. we're addressing this in the annual report already. we're covering a lot of these and this will be the mandated part of these reports. the other parts are going to remain, in the reports and provide them national anthemly annually or quarterly. >> as far as the minor modification goes. it's on page. >> many this is amendment that supervisor olague? >> yes, this is an amendment, we're changing the title of no. 2 will be "quarterly housing production reports." and we are requesting this change. and then on line no. 5, we are requesting that this reads, "the planning commission with quarterly housing production report every three months." so lines 4 and 5 we're requesting to be changed. thank you. >> thank you so much. i had a quick question to supervisor olague. i know she made a reference to the aging population. and the need for housing for people, especially 60 years old and above. and i know that supervisor olague and i fit into the baby-boomer generation that we're born between '46

supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: i k just have a, i don't know if this is going to affect anyone'sor not ther'Ñç ethics commission recommended sustaining of that charge? >> yes,pÑ.u are able to sustain any chargeúndló?eátááhjt the recommendation of the ethics commission but i think you all need to be voting on the same >> supervisor wiener:j approximate. >> president chiu: any further discussionvs1Ñ colleagues? so i understand supervisor wiener has made a motion to/ú l @&c"p% sustain charges. supervisor wiener should we assume those are for charges four and fiveu2 ÷ or are you also going to amend that? >> supervisor wiener: based on the recommendation of the ethicsÑ commission. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener has made the motion to sustain the charges reflecting the decision of the9] super-majority of the agents commission on charges four and five. that motion was secondedn yka by supervisor elsbernd. unless there's further discussion why don't we take roll call vote onu> clerk calvillo: supervisor kim, no.qy xm supervisor mar, aye. supervisor olague, 4 no. su

>> supervisor wiener, did you have a comment? supervisor wiener. >> thank you, and thank you, supervisor cohen, for calling a hearing on this very important subject, specifically car sharing. and i agree that it's extremely important that we provide car-sharing access in all parts of the city. and thankfully, particularly for those areas that are poorly served by other forms of transportation such as muni and taxicab service. and we do know that in some areas of the city, in particular districts 10 and 11, muni access is not as good as it is in other parts of the city, and cab access, taxicab access is at times [speaker not understood] nonexistent. so i think it is very important to provide this opportunity. but also backing up and look at this from a systemic perspective, i said this before and i'm going to keep saying it because i think it's true, that if we truly want to be a transit-first city, muni is never going to be enough. even if we had another $100 million a year to invest in making muni the kind of service that we all

thank you for the question, vice chair wiener. i just checked with legal council under the brown act, the item is adequately described in terms of what the purpose of the item is. the category that you're referring to is not actually a direct statement in the item. there is a category called recommendations of the finance committee typically what we have is recommendations for action that match what the recommendation was at the committee. the recommendation in this case was to have the item brought to the board without a specific action. but there was a recommendation by the committee to move it forward. it's not positive in terms of action. but to have the item considered. >> actually, the action of the committee was to forward it to the board, but there was no recommendation. i'm not trying to be nit picky, but when a committee of the authority actually says we're doing this without recommendation, the agenda state it. the staff recommended, but the committee did not. that needs to be, if staff needs to change itself agendizing

supervisor wiener. >> thank you so supervisor mar for bringing this forward. i was surprised that we could take positions on ballot measures, but i was told by the city attorney that we were able to do so. i would make a motion to amend and add a second resolve that states further resolved that the san francisco board of supervisors president iss its strong disapproval on recent attacks of prop 30 and suggest that the supporters of propositions 30 pawn 38 refrain from attacking one another. second by supervisor mar and can we take that without objection? without objection that is the case a on the underlining resolution, same house same call, without objection. >> madame clear, would you read the memoriams. >>> good morning, welcome to the san francisco transportation authority finance committee. i'm the chairman, scott weiner. to my right are our commissioners. madam clerk, any announcements? >> no announcements. >> item 2. >> september 18th, 2012 meeting. action item. >> colleagues, is there any public comment on the minutes? seeing none, public comment is c

>> supervisor wiener? >> thank you, mr. chairman. so i am a supporter of public investment in affordable housing. i was active in the formulation of prop c, the housing trust fund before we put it on the ballot and have been an allege advocate for that ballot measure and, in fact as some affordable housing developers will tell you, i sometimes pester them to build more affordable housing in the market area. he have been supportive of the projects that have come before this boor, for example for transition-aged youth. so i am a strong supporter of that and that is part of the solution for our affordability crisis. but it is one piece of the puzzle. it is not the entire puzzle. the market does matter when it comes to housing. you know, supervisor olague referred to supply and demand before and econ 101. and supply and demand does matter with housing. and the fact that is that we haven't produced much housing in the city. we have quite a bit in the pipeline coming up, but in terms of actually producing market-rate housing, we have not p

>> supervisor wiener: i understand. we also[ + hypotheticals probe and push to actual position is, because people talkedwaógt about preced. and so i think going both ways we heard some92gl i think it's fair to push hypotheticals both sides to -- the particular argument. i appreciate it. >> president chiu: thank you. ladies and gentlemen, we've been going for two hours. i understand our stenographer needs about seven minute break to rest her hands and switch out a tape. i suggest we recess for a few minutes and come back. supervisor elsbernd has some questions. >> (the san francisco board of supervisors is in recess) recess). >> president chiu: we are now back in session for our special meeting of 2012. we are in the middle of counsel. and i'd like to recognize?÷sgt supervisor elsbernd. >> supervisor elsbernd: thank%+q you, mr. president. a few questions. the first kind of follows up on the discussion that supervisors. in it supervisor wiener and you entered into a dialogue about the issue of this language being too vagu

supervisor wiener? wiener present. mr. president, you have a quorum. >> thank you. colleagues, could we have a motion to excuse hrchu? motion by supervisor campos, seconded by supervisor olague without objection, she shall be excused. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in the pledge of allegiance. i pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> colleagues, we have our september 13th and september 25th, 2012 board meeting minutes. could i have a motion to approve those minutes? motion by supervisor cohen, second by supervisor campos, without objection those meetings are approved. madam clerk, are there 012a communications? >> there are no communications, mr. president. >> can you read our consent agenda? >> items 1 and 2 comprise the consent agenda. these items are considered routine, however ah matter can be removed and considered separately. >> roll call vote. >> on items 1 and 2. supervisor campos? >> aye. >> aye. . >> aye. president

>> comment noted, commissioner wiener, we'll make a special change the item to reflect the recommendation. it's stated in the resolution. >> as i said. yeah. >> thank you. and i just want to, so thank you for that, mr. executive director. colleagues, when this came before the committee and provides fairly broad authority delegation to the executive director to execute certain agreements and we had a discussion at the committee level about this issue because several weeks ago or the month ago when we were sitting with the board of supervisors and developing a strategy, there was an amendment made that five members of this board supported to eliminate the ability of the successor redevelopment agency to delegate any authority to staff. on its face, it would have arguably required that commission to approve the purchase of pencils or papers. it was a rather dramatic amendment and this board rejected by 6-5 vote. given that preference apparently, expressed by five members of this body, the committee believed it would be appropriate to flag that issue for the full authority given that this is

as supervisor wiener presented this is about the housing trust fund. it's about the larger package of the charter amendment and is before the voters in november as well as both legislative changes that need to occur subject to the passage of the charter amendment as well as administrative changes that are needed to implement the broad housing trust fund program, and the importance of the housing trust fund -- i think our other hearings have discussed. the various aspects of the housing trust fund, but just for the general public to repeat what the overall housing trust fund is about? it's about stimulating all sorts of residential development, specifically replacing the loss of redevelopment funding for afforable housing and in this process continuing the good work of the city on producing afforable housing for all types of populations that we have done over the past 20 years. dan adams of my staff will go into greater detail about this specific legislation, and again how it is a crucial part of the larger housing trust fund. thank you very much. >> th

the size of the unit and density like supervisor wiener brought up. those are very interesting and important points that most certainly would, i believe, should be included into the dashboard. so as i'm trying to figure out where i am on this particular issue. on a gut level it seems the dashboard seems to make sense of we use them on our phones and licit rally while we're in our cars. we use the concept of a dashboard and you are right. sometimes the dashboard in the car won't tell you the air tire. yes you do have to go find that information. but if we had the information available, and it's already been published. i would imagine that it would be easy to synthesize and bring together on the dashboard. i really haven't heart enough of a compelling argument from the planning department to speak to me as to why i should not support this dashboard and i welcome planning, if you have any strong feelings, not today, not now, but before this item is heard at the full board, we could sit down and have a conversation with you. >> i don't know, supervisor wi