>> chair wiener: yeah. ashley lyon -- >> [speaking foreign language] >> chair wiener: it's okay.speaking foreign language] i'm a volunteer in the city. cta have -- members low income families. no more money to pay high rent. we need affordable housing. please keep the safe land control housing. thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you very much. next speaker. actually, let me call a few. ashley lyon, michelle, denise, terry, linda, darren bridges, joanne, mark brian, lorenzo, cizi, karen fishkin, peter cohen, fernando, carolyn, bryce, david feather stone, andy, lisa garcÍa. go ahead. >> thank you. good afternoon. my name is steve wu. i'm representing tenderloin neighborhood development corporation. and we are also a member of the council for community housing organizations. we've taken a position opposed to the legislation primarily because we see t.i.c.s as cannibalizing the existing rental housing stock. our rental housing stock is critical to preserve in maintaining the affordability in san francisco's housing. we believe that, furthermore, that the uncapping the conversion condo

thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker please. >> thank you. i'm max -- and i've lived in san francisco for 24 years, lived in district 9 for 21, in the same rent controlled apartment, and this legislation, if it passes, could displace me. i have not been told about the long-term leases by the prospective owners. i learned about that through the tenants union. if all property owners and the speculators who are sort of drawn in by this situation were honest and forthcoming, i think we would have a lot fewer problems but as the case is, we don't. we have to get information through whatever source it's available from. and that can create some misinformation at times, but i just see a lot of people coming into the city, from other places, and really trying to push out long-term tenants like me. and it would certainly disrupt my life to have that happen. i would have to move out of state. i've had the the same job for 15 years and probably would have to quit it and move on to something else if i were displaced. so

. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> thank you much again for being here and supporting us and to everybody out here. seems to be a lot of support for both sides. my name is cole. i work as an administrator for a music school, which is a nonprofit that's been going for 40 years. i am administrator and outreach director. i teach music to areas all over the city and the majority of the people that work for me, or that work for us, are younger, poorer, musician creative types that if they were to lose their -- the housing that they have, one will be here later to speak, it would put them in a position where they would have to leench. when i moved to san francisco, i moved here because i felt this was a really special city, it had a cool about it, and an interesting nature, that was unlike anything else. i'm seeing recently that the rents, the way that they are, the makeup of the city is changing, and it's becoming something that it's losing its luster, in being the artistic community that it is. i'm worried

thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is josephine, my family of seven lives in district five. i speak for joe-joe, still in the audience, mr. jow-jow, and ruby lee still in the audience and other monolingual chinese speaker who will have to leave by now or too shy to speak. we also speak for 152 families from asian-american voters.org. we support rent control law. many of us are or having renters. many of us are still renters some years, some years to go into home ordinancesship. by -- home ownership, in order to buy a home. we speak for cindy, her family has been on the waiting list for eight years and she's on the verge of foreclosure and be homeless. we speak for joe-jow who sits in the audience because he's disabled. he has to pay two-thirds of his disability into his home and withdraw money from 401-k to remortgage due to they can't refinance. we owe a lifetime lease. we support the stability of rental housing. we want peaceful coexistence. why can't we be supported reciprocally -- financial

thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> my name is fran taylor. the definition of chutzpah is you kill your parents and then you throw yourself on the mercy of the court because you're an orphan. i'd like to modernize that definition. you support t.i.c.s, you push t.i.c.s, you shove t.i.c.s down our throat, you displace people right and left and 10 years later you say t.i.c.s are horrible, they're victims. the victims are the the people who were kicked out in the first purge and we're facing a second purge. it's class warfare. call it what it is. for the t.i.c. people who have a difficult situation, i'm not your enemy. i go to occupy the banks actions and i see single families and tenants being evicted. i haven't seen t.i.c. owners. get yourself down there. all those people that -- not people, those banksters you've named. don't kick us out because of what the banks are doing to you. >> chair wiener: next speaker. >> my name's andy, i've lived in the city for 18 years. my first 12 years i was a renter. six

. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> [speaking foreign language] >> translator: good afternoon. my name is -- and i'm the president of community tenant association. we're the largest tenant based -- organization in the city and our 1,000 members are all low income mono lingual renters. we have 50 present and some are in the overflow room and we're here regarding our concerns on the proposed legislation. if t.i.c.s are allowed to buy back the condo conversion process these units will be taken out of rent control stock and will open the flood gate and incentivize the speculators. a lot of the tenants are low income and will not afford other places. i have also experienced ellis act eviction process and i do not wish this upon anyone to go through. also speculators will be motivated into the t.i.c. market. -- the waiting list, we're concerned more speculators will jump into the market and -- to get into the condo conversion while empty. this will not create new housing, let alone affordable. we need to prot

so -- >> chair wiener: thank you. we have amendments that have been proposed by supervisor farrell, and can we take those amendments without objection? that will be the order. and now we have a motion to continue on the table, and it's been seconded, this is a motion to continue the item until february 25 can we take that outobjection? that will be the order. is? any other business before the committee? >> alisa miller: there are no other further matters. >> chair wiener: then we are adjourned.

thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. i'm marie coons from district 10, a t.i.c. owner. we bought our four unit building in 2005. we're original t.i.c. partners. it was our way into the market at that time. my other partners are much younger than i am. i came into it as a -- after a dissolution of a marriage and it was my only ability to be able to buy at that time. we're very supportive of this condo bypass conversion, and we ask that you please take it into consideration. it's the answer to a lot of people's need to have homes in san francisco. thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> high name is sheryl power, i live in district 5, i'm a t.i.c. owner and i bought my t.i.c. in 2004, with two other couples. and it was a perfectly empty building. nobody was evicted. we bought it from a retiring couple and their kids use the other two units. it's a three unit building. at the time we thought it would take five to seven years to convert and we got our adjustable loan and now w

thank you. >> chair wiener: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm sarah short with the housing rights committee of san francisco. we oppose this legislation strongly. good public policy, i think addresses a demonstrated need. we've heard a lot of an h anecds today and heard people tell stories as t.i.c. owners of needing larger space or wanting to refinance but how many t.i.c. owners are underwater, in default, facing foreclosures. we don't know the answers and need to do better due diligence and see if that really is a problem. i imagine if you went to the assessor's office you wouldn't find that many. it's not a crisis of the proportions that would be worth the trade-off, which is an incentive for more evictions in a city where our rents are already skyrocketing and we have a huge hoamsdz homeless problem. the other question i would ask is how many of these t.i.c.s after they convert to condos are then sold. we hear a lot of people up here saying i'm not a flipper, i'm not a real estate speculators

. >> chair wiener: thank you. thank you. if i could just remind, we -- again, no audible applause, booing, hissing. if you want to raise your hand to express aroofl, that's -- approval, that's great. next speaker. >> my name is kenneth laverne, i live in district 8. i'm a renter. i live on social security. i'm disabled. i think supervisors are well aware that the real estate market is red hot again right now, and there are great pressures on renters to be removed from units. i think this is another tool in the toolbox of landlords and real estate interest, to remove us from our units. i've been in my unit since 1988. i could not live in san francisco without this -- without living in rent control, and living in this unit. if i moved, my rent would triple or quadruple. i don't believe there's any enforcement in -- i don't think that the lifetime leases, from what i've seen today, from dpw, and the city attorney, that there are any real enforcement mechanisms. regardless of whether this would conflict with state law, the costa

item 26. >> supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: thank you very much missed a president. this item is a long time in coming. a number of us have been trying to find a good occupant i see. market octavia cac is critical in terms of providing guidance for finding an apartment and for us about development and public space and transportation issues in the market octavia plan area. i work closely with the cac and i know other colleagues do as well to make sure we have good community by ins for these improvements. i am supporting nick wolf. i would like to make a motion to remove mr. -- name and add mr. wolf. mr. wolf works at the lgbt center almost to graphically at the center of the market octavia area, strongly connected to the cac is important. nick does economic development work at the center working for a number of different communities and the center does some excellent economic development work. he previously worked on the -- project in -- valley. he has my support. that is the motion i make. >> president: supervisor wiener has done a motion to substitute nick wolf by -

. >> president chiu: supervisor wiener has a question for you. >> supervisor wiener: welcome. so one of the things i think i sometimes struggle with in these appeals and i'm sort of seeing it here, is -- and this is an appeal under ceqa, it's not an appeal on the merits of the project. and so i think there are times when appeals -- ceqa appeals come before us, and you sometimes arguments about the merits of the project get mixed in, and that may be because that's the only way for the item to come to us. and whether -- agree or disagree with it but in 1999 the voters gave the policy authority over these kinds of issues to the mta board of directors and took that authority away from the board of supervisors. so i'm hearing, both in the written submissions and also in what you're saying today, rernss references to what's good or bad engineering, what's a better route or a worse route, references to disability access, to fire safety. those are all very legitimate and important policy considerations to weigh and coming up with any plan. but how should we think about this distinctio

so -- >> chair wiener: thank you. we have amendments that have been proposed by supervisor farrell, and can we take those amendments without objection? that will be the order. and now we have a motion to continue on the table, and it's been seconded, this is a motion to continue the item until february 25 can we take that outobjection? that will be the order. is? any other business before the committee? >> alisa miller: there are no other further matters. >> chair wiener: then we are adjourned. >> the garden contains plants referred to by william shakespeare's plays and poems. located near the academy of sciences, shakespeare's garden was designed in 1928 by the california spring and wild flower association. here is a truly enchanting and tranquil little garden tucked behind the path of a charming rot iron gate with romantic magic. the overarching cherry trees, the gorgeous big walkway and brick wall, the benches, the rustic sun dial. the pack picnic, lovely bench, enjoy the sunshine and soft breeze and let the >> you

commissioner wiener. >>i'm happy to support commissioner avalos as chair. sometimes something to get lost in the debates is that even though we have areas of disagreement but often get a lot of attention, a lot of press coverage because anytime you have a big dispute at city hall that is likely to get the attention, in reality when it comes to transportation policy in the city, the vast majority of what we do and what we need is completely not controversial when working together on getting high speed rail, transit, that we get adequate funding from muni, improving pedestrian safety, bicycle roads, we have broad consensus. i know that our chair campos, we are proof in the pudding, we have had our disagreements. as chair and vice chair of ta in the past year, we have worked together incredibly closely, almost always having a common voice, fighting together whether regional or within the city. even though supervisor avalos and i don't always agree on everything i will be able to have that same kind of relationship and working collaboratively to move together t

colleagues i hope that you can support the supplemental. >> supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: my position is the same as it was in december when we voted on this. i won't repeat all of those reasons. although the fiscal cliff catastrophe was avoided at least for the moment we still have significant risks at the state and federal level and i am not comfortable appropriating from our arguably inadequate state, federal general fund reserve. i would like to make a motion to divide the question. one, about the 1.1 million dollars about the public education enrichment fund and separately 843 million dollars from the general fund's stays federal reserve. initially i wanted us to divide the file entirely to send two files to the mayor who indicated that he would sign it so that we could get the 1.1 million to the school district immediately. >> motion to divide is not debatable. will consider those two items. supervisor mar. >> i want to support the whole -- supplemental brought by supervisor kim. i want to speak to the accountability of the school district. another the former school

it's not really outlined in the the legislation. >> chair wiener: right. but the concept of a lifetime lease exists in san francisco law already. >> yes. >> chair wiener: and so this is not some sort of -- we're applying it beyond senior and disabled now but this is a lifetime lease and we have a lifetime lease in the law that's been in the law for quite some time. >> yes. >> chair wiener: thank you. okay, colleagues. if there are no other questions or comments, we will open it up to public comment. public comment will be two minutes. when you have 30 seconds left, you will hear a soft bell. when your time is up, you'll hear a louder bell. if you could please wind up. i'll call a group of people at a time. you don't have to line up in the exact order that i call you and proceed as one speaker ends, the next speaker can walk up to the mic. and if i do call anyone in the overflow rooms, please come into the board chamber. and if there's anyone who, because of a physical need or they have children with them, they need to speak early. you can just go ahead and

wiener present. yee present. the president you have a quorum. >> i would like to welcome our new supervisors. could you please join us in the pledge of allegiance. we pledge allegiance to the flag of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands. indivisible, one nation, under god, with liberty and justice for all. colleagues we have our number twentieth, december 4, december 11 minutes. those minutes are approved. madam clerk are there any communications? >> no communications. >> -- mr. mayor. >> good afternoon supervisors and of course members are constituents of san francisco welcome to our chambers. i want to congratulate the new supervisors as well and look forward to working with everybody four 2013. was good work. questions please. >> welcome mayor lee. i want to get some of your thoughts around healthcare cost overall. question today, rising healthcare costs accumulating with fiscal liabilities represent significant challenge. >> our obligations for providing quality and affordable

: thank you. >> president chiu: i have one follow-up question what supervisor wiener asked. i heard you answer a question earlier about how it's your perspective that there is environmental review that's required here. and i certainly appreciate that there are differences of opinion in the community about whether this is good policy, whether this is the right thing to do. but i think the question in front of us is again whether this ought to be categorically exempt. and what i'm having trouble understanding is that plain language of one of the exemptions for environmental review is the creation of bicycle lanes and existing rights of way. i can't imagine being clearer than that. what i don't understand is just, again, how are you proposing we get around what is clearly stated statutory if that is the question. >> the preamble says minor alteration. in both exemptions, they have to be a minor alteration, and bike lane is listed as one of the examples of a type of minor alteration. but just because it's a bike lane doesn't therefore mean it's a minor alteration. it's a two-pro

>> chair wiener: good afternoon. and welcome to the san francisco board of supervisors land use and economic development committee. i am scott wienerrings the chairman of the committee. to my right is supervisor jane kim, the committee vice chair. to my left is david chiu, the president of the board of supervisors, who is a member of the committee. also joining us is supervisor mark farrell. i want to thank those at sfgtv for broadcasting our hearing and our clerk is ms. miller. are there any announcements? >> alisa miller: please make sure to silence cell phones and electronic devices. items acted upon will appear ol board of supervisors agenda unlesunless otherwise stated. item 1, an ordinance amending a subdivision code, applicable to buildings that qualify for but was not selected or participated in the 2012 condo conversion lottery. >> chair wiener: before i turn it over to supervisor farrell, who is the lead author, i want to note since we have quite a few people here today, i have quite a few public comment ca

the rest i submit. >> thank you supervisor wiener? supervisor avalos. >> thank you madame clerk just a couple of items for introduction is a memoryium for daniel colon. you might know about, he was shot and killed last monday morning in the -- neighborhood and is leaving behind an 11 -years-old son and many many relatives in the area and yesterday morning, was his service at value lenities on mission street and it was pretty impressive to see the community he had around him going back generations to the [name?] district and it was like almost every ever street in the compel sell cor district was mourned. and he made great contribution to his community he was known as a peace maker loved mudsic played the drums a big 49ers fan and liked to swipe from alcat triads to the north beach area and it's amazing how large this community was and he is sure lie going to be missed in the community my next item is calling for a hearing to look at the impact of the lie dour scandal the bank offered rate scandal several banks over the course of selfy

supervisor wiener, wiener present. and supervisor yee.y present. mr. president all members are present. >> thank you could you please join us in the problem of allegiance. [pledge of allegiance] i pledge allegiance to the flag, of the united states of america, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. madame clerk are there any communications. >>> there are no communications mr. president. >> and could you read read our consent genta. items one-18 are considered routine and if a member objects a an item may be ri moved and considered separately. >> colleagues would anyone like to sever any of these items, camp poes aye. supervisor chu, sprfer cohen, aye? a. supervisor farrell, aye, supervisor kim? , kim aye, supervisor mar, mar aye, supervisor wiener aye. supervisor ayey. there are answer aye's. those ordinances are finally passed thosances are adoptedded and approved. madame clerk please read items 19-21. item 19 is affirming the certification of the final environmentle impact report

supervisor wiener has already divided the question. i want to thank the many people who come to our office a continued to advocate for the funding. as i told them, my vote has not changed also. it is important to support the kids in terms of having opportunities for additional credentialing, and we can accomplish that the different funding mechanisms and i am supportive of releasing the 1.4 million dollars to the school district. it is important. in terms of the 800,000 i won't be supporting that piece of it. there are other funding sources that achieve the same goal of having the credentialing programs available at the school district but preserve flexibility for the city to weather the storm of any of the cuts that we might see that may impact our families, kids, that we may not be aware of at this moment. i want to thank all advocates for coming to speak to me about this issue. i appreciate it i will support the 1.4 million but not the 843,000. >> supervisor farrell. >> supervisor farrell: i will hold my vote from the last time arou

it was at the request of the neighborhood that supervisor wiener worked to amend the mills act to better understand the workings of that act and how it could be used. and at their request and he spoke specifically about the benefit and how it would benefit the neighborhood. they also -- the neighbors also requested the survey. if they chose not to do the survey and some didn't know about the survey, i find it very hard to believe they didn't know about the survey when they the ones who requested the survey. so dtna supports this historical designation of the district based on its historical merit as well as it fulfills several objectives and policy developments that were developed during the the market octavia area plan. this plan k5u8 called for the designation and protection of important historical buildings. thank you. >> president fong: thank you. is there any additional public comment on this item?lfjçlñpizgç >> good afternoon. i had a card filled o owd out. should i be here now? i john sham bray. i own a property at 75 pierce street and have been there 28 years. i've come to just a

two votes on this is supervisor wiener has asked us to do. 843,000 and the second vote on the remainder. roll call. >> supervisor breed: no. >> supervisor campos: no president: aye. >> supervisor farrell: no >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: no >> supervisor yee: aye 7 ayes, 4 no's. that portion of the ordinance is passed. the balance. >> supervisor breed: aye. >> supervisor campos: aye >> supervisor chiu: aye >> president: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye >> supervisor farrell: aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor wiener: >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye 11 ayes. >> that portion of the ordinance is also passed. item 13. the resolution of holding the department of public works recommendation. roll call. >> supervisor breed: aye >> supervisor campos: aye >> president: aye >> supervisor chiu: aye >> supervisor cohen: aye >> supervisor farrell: aye >> supervisor kim: aye >> supervisor mar: aye >> supervisor wiener: aye >> supervisor yee: aye >> supervisor avalos: aye >> 11 ayes. resolution is adopted. >> item 14. >> president: this ordinanc

item 21. >> supervisor wiener. >> supervisor wiener: this is an exciting item to landmark twin peaks tavern, on castor street. an exciting day for the castro and lgbt community. the bar has recently celebrated its fortieth anniversary. twin peaks was the first gay bar to be open and visible from the street in terms of windows where you could see inside the bar. that was a huge step. and a coming up for our community for so many years gay bars have been hidden away so you cannot see inside. it was very secretive. as our community cannot, twin peaks helped lead the way by having a bar. you could see who was inside. it welcomes all ages. we have a continuing challenge in the lgbt community of celebrating youth to the point that sometimes older lgbt people don't feel welcome in the community. in twin peaks you see young people and old people and everyone in between together and building community. i want to thank the planning staff. tim bryant, mayor brown i hear from planning and the department has done a lot of great work on this land marking and i am fully supportive. i ask for your s