at wifo. i think it was quite surprising in september of last year country after country to the microphone at the general assembly at wifo to call for diplomatic conference in 2015. i think the secretary is looking for a hat trick. they would like to have three treaties at the end of the copyright field, having concluded the beijing treaty and the marrakesh treaty. i think the focus on that -- is nold prefer that there broadcast treaty. we are opposed to the proposal. but i wouldn't really -- i think don't are wrong if they think this is moving forward. at this point, there is a large number of countries calling a diplomatic conference. want to go to diplomatic conference, it's very difficult to predict what the outcome will be. you, sir. let me try to beat that red light, ms. griffin. how do some states deserve full access to the laws and rules by which they are required to live? >> thank you for the question. i think the answer depends on an analysis of many dimensions. thefirst dimension is