scandalous news partner was held in question under terrorism laws and jacob appelbaum to the wiki leaks akhet attained a dozen times at the u.s. border today all three of them headliners a major conference in humber gone surveillance and previously artie's peter all of us there to. well as the thirtieth anniversary of the chaos communications conference here in how strongly more and more supporters people are made aware of just how fragile their online privacy actually is now i'm joined by michael ebeling who is a online privacy campaigner michael thanks very much for speaking to me how people started to take more of a interest in looking after their online security you know a lot of people do it in a different manner. some start to encrypt the e-mail something that we would like to support those people how to do it how to manage p.g.p. for example as iran's reducer communication on the internet whatever this is going to be a big impact for everybody's life and i think we're just looking at the beginning of a big same for somebody like myself who's barely computer literate is there anything t