which one of those cases would you say is the worst of course there's the case of the wiki leaks of bradley manning the thomas great case mysteriously most of those charges were actually dropped but here rising as being asked to reveal one of his sources that's pretty damaging for journalism. but it would be damaging because all of the cases that we've been talking about that were so important to expose during the bush administration and the reporting couldn't have been done without. granting immunity to sources and it. were to reveal the source in this case he couldn't go on to get these kinds of scoops in the future and. some of us in journalism fear is that the obama administration now that it's in power now that it doesn't want its secrets spilled across the front pages of the new york times. the good news this all too well that it's trying to prevent that kind of thing from happening in the future but why do they go after the bush guys and right we know they have gone after the bush administration for actual a war crimes or for bringing torture into into the american you know of the history he

talking with people's rights a grand jury is investigating wiki leaks a key witness he's a friend of alleged wiki leaks informant bradley manning well he argues the goal is really to intimidate whistleblowers and to regulate journalism here is what he told our t.v. yesterday after he testified and pled the fifth mind you before the grand jury in alexandria virginia. i think that over time they're going to try to influence public opinion by launching these tactics mr childer personal rights association the u.s. government is trying to finish the job it started four years ago with the pentagon papers destination it is trying to find a matter to regulate journalism in media though domestically and internationally and i feel that is trying to use investigating its we keep each to establish policies which will give the government broad censorship powers in determining how source information actually makes into the hands of media and this as the legacy of leaked wiki leaks documents continues to prove its journalistic value one example the case of victor boot he's a russian man that america accuses of being an international arms deal

apart the obama administration seems to be ramping up its espionage investigation of wiki leaks namely bradley manning and julian assange and just a few hours ago a blogger named david house testified before a grand jury just a few miles away here in virginia about his ties to bradley manning and wiki leaks all part of a larger program for potential us to look at espionage act violations among other violations and the obama administration's probe on leakers so are we really in the middle of some sort of a war against whistleblowers here or is that just a bunch of coincidences well for more on this i'm joined by justin reda the homeland security director at the government accountability project and steven cohen he's the executive director of the national whistleblower center he's also the author of the book the whistleblowers handbook very aptly titled thank you so much both of you for being here to leave the shit ain't you stephen if i can start with you if you're one of the nation's foremost experts in this in this area you've been practicing. in law and dealing with the whistle blowing cases for nea

question that you bring up there and of course as we know there's a grand jury being formed in order to try to build a criminal case against wiki leaks we know that bradley manning has been detained for over a year and there are a lot of questions surrounding that we've been constantly covering that on this show and so i want to ask you now pertaining to bradley manning recently bradley manning's father actually said that he thinks you were just using manning up for your own fifteen minutes of fame and he claims that manning actually told him that himself the what's your response to that i did stuff from the father and it was very alarming to me because through my last visit to many many bradley asking that i come back and he told me that he really enjoyed our conversations in my mind it was completely out of the blue the father's also said that he actually took me off with his attention list and he said that also claiming that bradley had told him of this mother authority and told him it to be honest it's hard really going to straight answer from the father what i can see is a human bradley did not how the relationship to speak of and the historical past betwee

of international economic law at chapman university now in other news the wiki leaks the investigation continues a grand jury is investigating and today david house maybe you recall he's the founding member of the bradley manning support group network rather he's a friend of bradley manning and he was subpoenaed to appear before this grand jury in alexandria virginia today now private first class manning you remember is the u.s. government whistleblower he's accused of leaking u.s. diplomatic cables to wiki leaks and he could face the death penalty as a result of these charges of course depending on what the outcome is now house called for manning's freedom and in his testimony he pled the fifth he invoked his right to remain silent before this grand jury according to house he says this is a show trial not to curtail press freedom and r.t. got to speak with him one on. and at the grand jury hearing he talked about the public reaction to the bradley manning case first take a listen but i think there's a groundswell movement happening right now in the us up just for example in boston today students that were never politically active and all standing up to support probably nothing to keep peace and protest this g

handful of individuals from the boston area who were all instructed to come to virginia and testify about various elements involving bradley manning and the whistle blowing web site wiki leaks as a whole now while hells did in fact show up he didn't give out any information other than his name and his address to the grand jury has attorney peter cropp explains why. we did this the house we're going to hear the questions. he invoked his right to remain silent under the fifth amendment to the u.s. constitution. so while house didn't have much to say inside the court room he did exercise his right to free speech outside during a press conference and there he fully expressed his opinions on this entire court case saying it's legal proceeding is nothing but a means by which the government wants to put fear into americans and keep them from standing up to the wrongdoings of the government tell us also compare the grand jury to a historic incident that happened forty years ago today not today forty grand jury has been convened to target supporters and journalists in the boston area and they talk to children first minute sushi civil rights of individuals working for his defense. in

supporter of bradley manning so i asked house when i spoke to him if he had been subpoenaed by the government regarding this grand jury investigation that's being built in virginia against wiki leaks and here's what he had to say but i have heard some recent contacts from the u.s. government and the meeting with my lawyers tomorrow i'll be able to make a more robust statement after i get to that meeting with my lawyers so. there are some very big developments happening in iran boston posted later this week. well guess what turns out the david house did get a subpoena today salon's dot com glenn greenwald excuse me posted both a subpoena and the accompanying legal documents online and according to greenwald manning's ex-boyfriend tyler watkins and not the head injury cryptography expert at princeton have also received subpoenas so there's more evidence of a growing case that's being built against this whistle blowing organization but what are the charges what laws could possibly apply you know we've heard whispers of the espionage act being invoked but let's just remember something here joining us on he's an american is not an american week he weeks has a new address so how far cou