he is accused of being a link between the campaign and wikilea wikileaks, the groups that t leaked democratic e-mails that were hacked byrussia. that is what he will befo answering stone, who said he would never testify against pre says he may testify in the russia investigation. but he is aig supporter of the president. >> tracie potts, live for us this morning. thank you. >>> we turn to the 2020 race for president. the former ceo of starbucks, howard schultz, is considering a run as an independent. he posted a message on twitter. >> both parties at the extreme, are not representing the silenty majof the american people. >> he grew up in brooklyn. he transformed starbucks from a ngle shop into a global brand. "forbes" says he is worth $3.5 billion. that's more than president trump.pr thident tweeted about schultz, saying he doesn't have the guts to run for president. mike bloomberg tweeted he is considering running as an independent. but the independent would split the anti-trump vote and end up re-electing the presidt. >>> we told you about a day care fire in rockville. a fire destroyed a b

suggesting he had information on wikilea wikileaks. stone in the days leading up to the democratic national convention, he seemed to hint on twitter and in public, he had a way of knowing something would happen with john podesta's e-mails. that is notable. after the "access hollywood" tape dropped in october, the hacked e-mails came out. the timing of all this is peculiar >> it certainly is more questions to answer when it comes to the president and what he will say and what's next when it comes to this we will watch that julia, thank you for being with us >>> the headline reads, we can see collusion with the soon i indictme indictment e thauthor of the article joins me next to talk about it and saying, "really?" so capital one is building something completely new. capital one cafes. inviting places with people here to help you, not sell you. and savings and checking accounts with no fees or minimums. because that's how it should be. you can open one from right here or anywhere in 5 minutes. seriously, 5 minutes... this is banking reim

no talk ofpi cocy, for examiner, not even saying contact with wikilea are illegal? >> sure.ean, prosecutors, like when i was a former prosecutors, we try to charge narrowly-drawn crimes for a couple of reasons b one, trp is very high. so to prove that. stone conspired with russian intelligence oronspired with wikileaks, you have to prove he agreed with somebody there to commit aherime togwith them beyond a reasonable doubt. that's not easy to do because these are agreements morialized -- that aren' memorialized in written contracts particularly. be able toeller is to prove a nor narrow crime and in sentencing the judge can consider all of someone's conduct. in federal sentencing laws, the judge is requireto cnsider anything prosecutors can prove d by 51% stand long as they get a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. >> is this sayeing thy're going to put pressure on roger stone to flip? >> one of the key moves is to put as much as pressure on stohe and ge to change his mind. obviously, if the president isfo eagestone not to flip -- he mentioned in the past sto had guts for n

three days later, wikilea began selectively releasing clinton campaign chair john podest>>s e-mails. he allegation that two campaign officials instructed m or inquired of me about wikileaks is false. >> and joining me now is the house republican leader, congressman kevin mccarthy of california. welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks for having me back. >> all on day one of the shutdown the president had a deal in front of ally a t was essen continuing resolution for three weeks, no wall. that's the deal he agreed to on day 35. what was accomplished? >> ywell, nob likes to go into a shutdown but the one thing i would see, especially if looking at winners and losers i don't know why someone would celebrate a status quo. i watched the president in e mry one of thetings offer a reasonable solution. i watched then leader pelosi spend a new historical time on the floor of the house, eight hours, talking about we don't have the daca solution involved when we could have. we stillave a problem at th border, we don't have that solved. now we have three more weeks to go. i wat speaker pelo

the relationship with wikileaks head julian assange, and damaging emails released by wikileaks: >> wikilea released what appears to be transcripts... >> now, these wikileaks'es releave rocked the campaign... >> schifrin: in 2016, wikileaks published emails that u.s. intelligence says were stolen, by russia, from clton campaign chairman john podesta and the d.n.c. today's indictment suggests the trump campaign was aware of wikileaks' releases beforehand: "stone spoke to senior trump campaign officials about organization 1"-- a reference to wikileaks-- "and information it might have had that would be damaging to the clinton campaign," the indictment says. "stone thereafter told the trump campaign about potential future releases of damaging material ba orgaon 1." >> this has nothing to do with the president. >> schifrin: today, house press secretary sarah sanders tried to distance the president from the indictment. the president himself tweeted,hu "greatest witc in the history of our country! d collusion! border coyotes, drlers and human traffickers are treated better."e but sie mueller inves

about any additional releases and what other damaging information organization one, believed to be wikilea wikileaks, had about the clinton campaign. mueller is telling you that stone was not just some sort of rogue, but they were reaching out to stone and it came from a higher place. as for who that official is, mueller is not naming that person. which means this is the federal government, through the special counsel's office telling us trump campaign but not telling us who. because we have this language after july 22nd released, that could mean the day after, could mean longer after. i would note steve bannon didn't join the campaign until much later, about a month, august 19th. who that person is, if they were employed by the campaign at that time and the exact timing of that is not stated by mueller. that's important. number two, i think what you have to look at here is we're looking at roger stone as a mystery figure. in fairness to the trump campaign, they would say donald trump washed his hands of using roger stone long before any of these charged crimes. so that's important in fair

it's possible he wouldn't have gotten involved in some of the wikilea wikileaks shenanigans.s not been charged for any communications for weeky leikilt rather than lying about it. >> talking about roger stone's indictment, it's clear from this indictment that those contacts happened at least with the full knowledge of and appear to be encouraged by the highest levels of the trump campaign. senator warner calls it a concealing the truth about the russia related contacts. >> for the white house spokesperson to say that this indictment has nothing to do with the president is ludicrous. i haven't done a word search on this, but the name trump or the words trump campaign or trump organization are strewn throughout this indictment. this is about the campaign at its highest levels. whether or not the president directed it, we don't know that. that would be speculating at this point. but this is about the campaign. and so, you know, it doesn't allege a conspiracy with russia. that's true. nor does it allege that he robbed a bank in shreveport, louisiana. >> there are some development

the indictment alleges that roger stone was the key conduit between russia, julian assange‘s wikileas of stolen e—mails from the democrat national committee, deeply damaging to the campaign of hillary clinton. throughout 2016, stone was an ever hasn't figure. in donald trump, they see somebody who gets things done, talks straight,