our government turned to the entities making wikileaks and threatened them in a way to force wikileaks back into' different position. my question is it is stupidity. it breaks the opportunity for creating the right kind of relationship that could encourage entities like wikileaks to become quasi-responsible entities. so it reminds me of in the early days of when napster first happened. there were moments in the history of napster when they said, we'll give you $1 billion if you let us survive. we'll give you $1 billion. juth just let us survive. and the recording industry said no, we're going to blow you up. and they blew them up. the consequence was that 30 other napster-like event its appeared immediately after wards and they were much less controlable and much less potentially profitable for the recording industry. so the recording industry got less of what it wanted, didn't get any money from napster, and napster was blown up. and it was out of spite. it seemed to me that's the way napster responded. there was a mature response. ok we're in the 21st century, how do we deal with thi

it's unrelated to wikileaks.this is a way of thinking about a lot of us act vies in the transparency movement who are trying to produce all sorts of transparency about government. and a lot of it, i think, is absolutely essential and good, but some of it is inherchtly ambiguous. -- inherently ambiguous. for example, of course we with need to have all sorts of information about campaign contributions every member of congress takes, but all of that transparency gets used to produce all sorts of cynicism about the way congress works because you can always find a particular connection between what congress does and the contributions they have. so the naked transparency movement helps feed in this sense the cynicism that exists around, um, government entities. and some people like cynicism, other people -- i would like to find a way to produce governments where we weren't cynical about it, and transparency alone is not going to do that. so i take responsibility for that part of it. we have to recognize that just throw

it is unrelated to wikileaks. it is a way of thinking about activists you're trying to prevent all sorts of transparency about government. a lot of it is essential and good. some of it is inherently ambiguous. we need to have all sorts of reformation about what campaign contribution every member of congress takes. all that transparency gets used to give services -- give cynicism. this helps feed the cynicism that exists. some people like the cynicism. others would like to produce a government where we are not cynical about it. transparency along will not do that. i take responsibility for that part of it. just throwing it all out there does not necessarily produce more understanding. it often produces more scandal, more misunderstanding, but not understanding in the public. that should lead us to think more sensibly about the right way to respond. >> the debate about wikileaks is clearly centered on first amendment issues. in that framework, when is it inappropriate for the government to punish publication of info

wikileaks, rather open leaks unlike wikileaks is not a publishing platform. it allows whistle-blowers to deposit material a anonymously in encrypted dropbox and specify the recipient. you can decide whether you want the leak to go to the "new york times" or the guardian or trade union or ngo you can also specify for how long the recipient should have exclusive access for offering a series of digital mailboxes for even of the media and other partners open leaks doesn't have to choose between large and small leaks. it allows publishers that will choose the platform most response whether i. the key idea separating receipt of documents from their publication, open leaks solves the problem of centralization that allowed assange to accumulate too much power and exert political influence more focused on his personal aggrandizement. to the some have ambivalence of wikileaks but want to preserve its benefits open leaks provides valuable alternative, genuinely neutral technology for whistle-blowers. >> i will put pressure on two gentlemen on my left. i know they want t

is wikileaks good or bad? is wikileaks legitimate journalism? if not, what is it?ould not be prosecuted. third there is an alternative. it preserves the benefit of wikileaks while avoiding its troubling aspects. wikileaks might use a remarkable memoir recently published by julian assange's number two man for years before he was expelled from the organization. he praises its early successes, like publishing the records of swiss banking house which exposed tax shelters. there were other successes, like the release of the u.s. apache helicopter strike that killed unarmled people in iraq. but the -- but he believed the troubles seemed to overwhelm the benefits because assange had a paranoid resistance to transparancy, he had a lack of political neutrality, and he was addicted to compiling power in his own hands. ironically this was the device wikileaks was put together to oppose. whistle blowing requires editing which is in the public interest. this led to serious privacy invasions, which berg deplord. there was the migs mistaken identification of a german citizen as a

it is unrelated to wikileaks. a way to think about the activists trying to reduce transparency about government and a lot of it, i think, is essentially and good, but some of it is inherently ambiguous. for example, we need information about what campaign contributions every member congress takes, but it gets used to produce cynicism about the way that congress works but is everyone thinks that everyone is been bought. the naked transparency movement helps feed the cynicism that exists around government entities. some people like the cynicism and i would like to produce a government where we are not cynical about it. transparency alone will not do it. why take responsibility for that part of it. just throwing this all out there does not necessarily produce more understanding. and often produces more scandal, more misunderstanding, more opportunities. this should lead us to think more sensibly about what the right way to respond would be. >> the debate about wikileaks clearly centered on first amendment issues. whe

dumping the public demand themselves, they enlist the help of map stream news organizations with wikileaks and the guardian and the "new york times" to get the material to fact check it and redact it if necessary. it was about government transparency, but, you know, there's really no way for these organizations to know what the leakers actual agenda is. it's just some conscious stricken whistle blower leaking the information or a partisan out for the advantage with a political opponent. let me close with this. however the first amendment issues play out, let's hope that our government's hands are clean. we know about joe lieberman's attempt to destroy wikileaks, but there's no evidence that the obama administration, the white house was come police sit in developing the sexual misconduct charges against assange after the three big releases last year. following upon those disclosures, friendly sweden offered an international arrest warrant seeking assange to arrest on misconduct. there's not many instances of using that heavy legal artillery for such a charge. companies that supported wikile

wikileaks the names alleged terror suspects. >> we are broadcasting to viewers on pbs in america and around the globe. welcome to "newsday." the last forces remaining loyal to grow gaddafi in libya have been told they must surrender by saturday or face military action. the deadline comes as a spokesman says that they have a good idea of where the former leader is and are confident that they will catch him. we send this report. >> village by village, the rebels' advance towards sirte. they plan to be there by saturday to back up the leadership possible to make them. thousands of loyalists have until then to surrender or the rebels will attack. this settlement still flies the old regime's legs. -- flags. this is a picture movement coming from the east. the rebels have been going forward. this is the most forward position they have. if they go over the hill behind me, they invite incoming fire from loyalists forces. >> although the loyalists are abandoning their position, there seems to be no panicky flights. is believed that colonel gaddafi is directing things. >> these are not in tota

government began to express concern about wikileaks' activity and you had the secretary of the state clinton and senator lib -- lieberman talking about the problem there, they talked about companies that were providing cloud-based services to wikileaks enabling support directed towards wikileaks, and we began through the freedom of information act to explore the question was the u.s. government actually putting a little bit of pressure on u.s. firms to back off support for an organization that they believed was controversial, so i think there are ways that this could happen. i don't think it would be so dramatic. as i said before, of cutting off access to the internet, but there's other ways to accomplish similar goals. >> guest: switching gears a little bit. in your view, does this proposal seem consistent with the administration's previous actions with regards to collecting data both online and off because there are privacy advocates who visit sized this administration as consistently pushing to increase law enforcement's eighty -- ability to access community data. >> guest: it doe

in new york and elsewhere, people are compassionate about wikileaks. you see the financial threat that the internet, you know, poses. i'm just not sure that the congress is any less generous if you want to put it in those terms about the internet. i mean, you know, the first actually is extremely i think concerned about the internet, has been calling for an internet kill switch to have a button to turn it off, to prosecute anyone connected to wikileaks to deliver. so i just don't think that this change will come. it will come from contrasts. they appear actually much more aggressive. then the government itself and they are the ones who are viewing the department of justice and the action to a sans. so i think if anything, they change will come probably -- the pressure will come from some of the kids who are not yet part as the companies and are still a load off silicon valley, who are concerned with the action. and i don't know if the pressure of civil society will be enough. but as lawrence said a few years ago, all it will take a -- i don't think tha

, enabling support directed toward wikileaks, and we actually began through the freedom of information act to explore the question was the u.s. government actually putting a little bit of pressure on u.s. firms to back off support for an organization that they believed was controversial? so i think there are ways this could happen. i don't think it would be quite so dramatic as i said before of cutting off access to the internet, but there are other ways to accomplish similar goals. >> host: now, um, switching gears a little bit, in your view does this proposal seem consistent with the administration's previous actions with regards to collecting data both online and off? because there are privacy of advocates who have criticized this administration as consistently increasing law enforcement's ability to access consumer individual data. >> guest: yes. well, i think the proposal does not go as far as it should go to protect privacy. i think that's the view that's generally held across the privacy and consumer user community that the white house could be doing more to promote specific leg

wikileaks is releasing thousands of u.s. state department cables including sensitive diplomatic communication between the united states and israel. >>> in news of the world tonight in japan the parliament elected a new prime minister today the sixth in five years. nota is viewed as a smart fiscal conservative. he had been the finance minister. mr.nota replaces nao who he signed after criticism of his handling of this year's tsunami disaster. >>> supporters of a youth leader fought with police. julius malema has been gaining influence against the unemployed youth and is challenging the ruling party. malema wants to nationalize the wealthy mining business and appropriate farms for poor blacks. >>> in china, 19 miners are pulled to safety after being stuck for a week in a coal mine. they became trapped when water poured down a shaft. the mine had been shut down four years ago that began mining again last week without permission. >>> more details about president obama's plans for september 11 have been released. the president wi

wikileaks is releasing thousands of u.s.artment cables including sensitive diplomatic communication between the united states and israel. >>> in news of the world tonight in japan the parliament elected a new prime minister today the sixth in five years. nota is viewed as a smart fiscal conservative. he had been the finance minister. mr.nota replaces nao who he signed after criticism of his handling of this year's tsunami disaster. >>> supporters of a youth leader fought with police. julius malema has been gaining influence against the unemployed youth and is challenging the ruling party. malema wants to nationalize the wealthy mining business and appropriate farms for poor blacks. >>> in china, 19 miners are pulled to safety after being stuck for a week in a coal mine. they became trapped when water poured down a shaft. the mine had been shut down four years ago that began mining again last week without permission. >>> more details about president obama's plans for september 11 have been released. the president will attend

wikileaks which seems to have a very specific anti-american flavor or impulse, is wikileaks a legitimateource for the "new york times"? >> well, wikileaks is a source. >> it is a source. >> and, you know, sources tend to come with agendas. they come with biases. sometimes they come with distasteful biases. it is true that wikileaks has a kind of, to the extent to define an ideology, it's anarchist, anticonstitutions, antigovernment, antithe united states, but every source comes to you with some kind of an agenda. what you have to do is focus on the information that you get. is the information true? is it valid? is it newsworthy? in our relationship with wikileaks, we said at the outset, we knew at the outset the fair amount about the organization and their biases and their agenda, and we made it clear that we are going to treat them as a source and nothing more than that. that is we will take their information they offer us, bed it, supply context, sensor it which we did. we edited it out in material that we reasonably put lives at risk. we did not consult wikileaks on what we would writ

but, the response that we sought after wikileaks started publishing -- sa after wikileaks started publishinghings like the afghan and iraq war logs, and the state department cables, was not just rhetoric about trying to harass or assassinate julian assange, but the external factors that amounted to extra-legal censorship. a imagine if when the pentagon papers were being published by "the new york times" that the nixon administration would go after the paper suppliers and sit are you going to keep going -- selling paper to the new york times? that is effectively what senator joe lieberman did in going after companies like amazon and paypal. it is exactly the wrong response, because it is the boy putting his finger in the dike. the flood is will we have to deal with. i would argue that when we try to suppress information in this age, we make it more valuable and interesting. it is called the barbara streisand effect. that is when she got upset because they they geological survey of the california coastline which it because of a geological survey of the california coast line was public -- becau

and if you want to submit a wikileaks foreign policy website it would be very easy to do.so -- >> we will talk. >> the question then is whether they have the value, and you can make the argument that they add value in having in the network's through which they can contact the media and ngos and there are probably some global problems on which they can make the argument for everyone else but if you want to learn something about corruption the chances are the fact that the "washington post" carries a corruption for much of the difference but that is a different subject. but my point is that it meets the future because i do not see what if the value that wikileaks asks in the process and here they just may be falling victim of the internet which is more or less all about disrupting the intermediaries and getting them out of business. it's easy to compare them to the newly emerging model of the open of weeks. they have even though they haven't properly launched yet, their ideology is we start building the newspapers for the newspaper website and more or less prominent role wik

german news magazine reports that wikileak mistakenly redacted the cables in november of last year. released files contain informant name endangering those sources. still the anti-secrecy web site race interest days the site leaked nearly 134,000 diplomatic capable. nasa says astronauts may have to temporarily and the international space station. officials say if russia rocket remains grounded after mid november, there will be no way to accepted up a new crew before the current resident scheduled to leave. space station supply stipulate exploded last week. investigators still didn't know what caused that. 3 of the current astronauts remain in orbit for the next week and to return 10 days from now. >> solid showing on wall street. today the dow gained 2 54 points in part because hurricane irene wasn't as destructive as anticipated. nasdaq added 2 and closed 1200 for the first time in two wea weaks? a singe a will delay the i p o because!because of recent market volatility. gaming company has shown a profit and sources believe its value could reach 10 billion dollars. >> first time ca

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in new york and elsewhere, people are compassionate about wikileaks. you see the financial threat that the internet, you know, poses. i'm just not sure that the congress is any less generous if you want to put it in those terms about the internet. i mean, you know, the first actually is extremely i think concerned about the internet, has been calling for an internet kill switch to have a button to turn it off, to prosecute anyone connected to wikileaks to deliver. so i just don't think that this change will come. it will come from contrasts. they appear actually much more aggressive. then the government itself and they are the ones who are viewing the department of justice and the action to a sans. so i think if anything, they change will come probably -- the pressure will come from some of the kids who are not yet part as the companies and are still a load off silicon valley, who are concerned with the action. and i don't know if the pressure of civil society will be enough. but as lawrence said a few years ago, all it will take a -- i don't think tha

that is surrounding wikileaks. when the u.s. government began to express concerns about their activity, and you had secretary of state clinton and senator lieberman talking about the problem. there were talking about companies that were providing cloud-based services to wikileaks. we began to explore the question was the u.s. government putting pressure on u.s. firms to back off support for an organization they believe was controversial. i do not think it would be quite so dramatic of cutting off access to the internet, but there are other ways to accomplish similar goals. guest: in your view, does this proposal seem consistent with the administration's previous actions with regard to collecting data online and off? there are privacy advocates that criticize this administration is pushing to increase law enforcement's ability to access consumer individual data. guest: i think the proposal does not go as far as it should go to protect privacy. i think that is probably the view that is generally held across the privacy and consume

so there maybe -- probably were -- some wikileaks leaks that were adverse to our interest. particularly when people who were engaged as our assets collecting our intelligence were named. the majority of the material that wikileaks disclosed was not of a national security threat level. >> yes, sir? >> senator, i'm wondering to what degree that you know of did any representative of the saudi government try to prevent the book from being published or certain details. >> i don't know what the role was in the decisions to censure the joint inquiries report to the degree that was done. i have not had any sense that the saudis have done any relative to this novel. maybe they are willing to accept it as imagination too. yes, sir? >> two questions, one on saudi arabia, one on weapons of mass destruction in the region. many observers feel like after the egyptian i don't want to say revolution, but the ousting of mubarak you have in effect have a counterrevolution led by saudi arabia and the gcc countries of the gulf cooperation counsel, moving into barr barr -- bahraid jordan and mor

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assets collecting intelligence were named, but my sense is that the majority of the material at wikileaks disclosed was not a national security threat level. yes, sir? >> hi senator. i'm wondering to what degree that you know of did any representatives in the saudi government tried to prevent your book from being published or certain details from being published? >> i don't know what their goal was and the decisions to censure the joint inquiry's report to the degree that it was done. i have not had any sense that the saudi's have done anything relative to this novel. maybe they are willing to accept that it's imagination too. yes, sir? >> two questions, one on saudi arabia and one of weapons of mass destruction in the region. many commentators and observers feel like after the egyptian, i don't no one is a revolution but the ousting of mubarak and at least a revolution in progress that you now in fact have a counterrevolution led i saudi arabia and the gcc countries, the gulf cooperation council and the saudi's moving into bahrain and it includes jordan and morocco to the other side of t

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>> i was going to say i'm not going to wikileaks as this point. [laughter] again, as a banker and my last assignment as chairman of the bank in eel el paso, texas, a place where money, people, and now guns and drugs and all kinds of things go back and forth, one of the three letter agencies from the government came to us on a regular basis and said ralph basham opened a account, keep an eye on it, and we provide information and at some point the client asked for money or something, and we went back to the agency, and they said raffle who? we don't know what you're talking about. i'm exaggerating a little, but that was really kind of the reaction. it was very much of a one way, you know, conversation. i think or i believe we tried certainly, and i'm i'm going to say during my tenure at homeland security, and i have folks here whether it's james caverly or dan stoneking, folks that are still doing it, and, you know, facilitated often through the chamber, the ability to, you know, how do you get people clearances, including secret clearances so they

, now one has turned against julian assange but they keep publishing stories based on wikileaks, and they say they'll withhold information if the president asks them to. you have to start questioning, who are they working for? government watchdog or government lap dog. >> you can watch everything you do on rt? >> yes. >> meaning the internet in case people can't see it. but you can also -- rt has an aggressive pitch they make they want people in the media to use their stuff, their clips and all. do you find people using it in our media around the country? >> yes, i don't know how aggressive their pitch is when it comes to -- >> i picked it up, they encourage you to go to the website and use the material. >> why not, right? why not have as many people put their eyes on it and actually see it and hear it and feel it as possible? >> let me show an rt network promo, it's only 26 seconds, what they tell their audience every day. >> we have an apartheid regime here in america. >> i think barack obama is beatable in 2012. >> when the government says they're going to keep you safe, get ready

now turned against him and keep writing stories based on the information that's been leaked by wikileaks and they play this very cozy game with the government as well where they will withhold information if the president asks them to. i think all of that has to make you start questioning who they're really working for. government watchdog or government lap dog? you can watch everything you do on rt. >> yes. >> meaning that the internet in case people can't see it. but you can also, you have, rt has an aggressive pitch that they make that they want people in the media to use their stuff. their clips and all. do you find people using it in our media around the country? >> yes. i don't know how aggressive their pitch is when it comes to other people. you hear it on the air. they encourage you to go to their website and use the material. >> because why not? right? why not have as many people put their eyes on it and actually see it and hear it and feel it as possible? >> let me show an rt network promo. it's only 46 seconds to see the kind of thing that they tell you tell their audience ever

a good way to think about this would be if you look back on wikileaks and what followed, it turned out they were hosting on amazon, and when amazon pulled that, anonymous launched an attack on a bunch of different web sites. everybody who was running their own data center was down in a heartbeat. so statement one -- if you are running your own thing, you will be taken out much more easily than if you are running as part of a much larger aggregated whole world that provider can defend the property much more rigorously. and goodness me, they care about defending it. but more importantly, through automation, you get to get an assurance that data is less accessible. so people will say to me that if they build a private cloud and surround it with people, they are much more secure. that is patently false because people tripped over cables and things fail. but people also have usb cheese and walk off with your data, and this is highly known. again, the data should never have been there and the guy should not have been able to download it. that is a human problem. a failure human systems. ther

a good way to think about this would be if you look back on wikileaks and what followed, it turned out they were hosting on amazon, and when amazon pulled that, anonymous launched an attack on a bunch of different web sites. everybody who was running their own data center was down in a heartbeat.

everything is on the record forever or at least as long as c-span, google or wikileaks can index it. [laughter] for those of you on twitter, please, use the hash tag if you are watching remotely, and we normally have about twice the audience in the room watching remotely. please, use that event, and we'll pick up your questions in the q&a session at the end. if you do wish to ask a question in the final section of the event, please, wait for the microphone. we need to respect the online audience and make sure they hear us too. so without further introduction, i would like to invite victor pickard to the podium to share some reflections as a co-editor. victor, should we be as optimistic as your title suggests? please. put your hands together. [applause] >> thanks. that's a great question, and i'm afraid my talk will be a little bit in keeping with the pessimism of the title. but then we'll rely on the panelists to bring it back up. um, it's, it mean a lot to me to be able to talk to you at the new america foundation. i haven't been here since the spring of 2009 when i was working here

in new york and elsewhere, people are compassionate about wikileaks. you see the financial threat that the internet, you know, poses. i'm just not sure that the congress is any less generous if you want to put it in those terms about the internet. i mean, you know, the first actually is extremely i think concerned about the internet, has been calling for an internet kill switch to have a button to turn it off, to prosecute anyone connected to wikileaks to deliver. so i just don't think that this change will come. it will come from contrasts. they appear actually much more aggressive. then the government itself and they are the ones who are viewing the department of justice and the action to a sans. so i think if anything, they change will come probably -- the pressure will come from some of the kids who are not yet part as the companies and are still a load off silicon valley, who are concerned with the action. and i don't know if the pressure of civil society will be enough. but as lawrence said a few years ago, all it will take a -- i don't think tha

our lives as long as c-span, google, or wikileaks can index it. [laughter] for those of you on twitter please use the hash tag if you're watching remotely and would only have about twice the audience in the room watching remotely. please use that event and we'll pick up your questions in a q&a session at the end. if you do was to ask a question in the final session of the event, please wait for the microphone. we need to respect the online audience to make sure they hear us, too. so without further introduction out like to invite victor pickard to the podium. victor, you would be as optimistic as utah's just. [applause] >> thanks. that's a great question and i'm afraid my talk will be a little bit in keeping with the pessimism of the title, then we will rely on the panel is to bring it back up. it means a lot to me to go to talk to you today at new america foundation. i haven't been here since the spring of 2009 when i was working a full-time and the research fellow. and when i reflect back on that period, i remember that there was something in th

do you ask about their visits to websites like wikileaks.said, is this the guidance you are giving? we have civil liberties concerns. we have employee rights concerns. we think this message is off. the meeting resulted from that letter. we were told, you are rights. we did not intend for the agency to use a check list. these are things that were in some agencies. behavioral issues are legitimate in terms of employee review in the intelligence community. that is different from being a civilian employee. that is different. there are some concerns. we would like to put in to balance the civil liberties and whistleblower protections that you are concerned with with national security. we said great, why don't you put that in a letter. let's do another memo. we are still waiting for that. >> there was a related reaction in congress where access to wikileaks was cut off for congressional staff and for the library of congress. there was a blinding to the information. this seems to be a cutting off about it will information. as more and more informat

and what kind of impact it would have. >> i will not go to wikileaks at this point. but, again, as a banker and my last assignment was the chairman of our bank in a puzzle, texas, a place where a lot of money and people and guns and drugs and people go back and forth, many three-letter agencies in the government would come to rest on a regular basis entellus to just -- regular basis and tell us to just open an account. at some point, it climbed would come in and ask for money and we would go back to that agency and they would say raw food? we do not know what you're talking about -- they would say ralph who? we do not know what you're talking about. it would be a one-way conversation. i believe or i believe -- we tried, certainly, during my tenure at homeland security and we have the folks here and folks that are still doing it -- they facilitated through the chamber the ability of how you get people secret clearances so they can be let in on more important and more critical information. how do you do information sharing? how do you get that information out there. at

there's been a leak at wikileaks.le for the anti- secrecy organization that's causing a very serious security breach. >> reporter: in morning in washington, the ntsb used very strong words to blame pg&e for what it calls failures that led to the san bruno disaster last year. you are looking at live pictures. this is inside the proceedings. this is the chairwoman who opened those proceeding the earlier this mo everyoning -- proceedings earlier this morning. the ntsb says pg&e also exploited weak safety overtight by state regulators who blaiseed a blind trust in pg&e. now -- who placed a blind trust in pg&e, tara moriarty is live where residents are getting some answers a year later. some of them have chose ton rebuild their homes -- chosen to rebuild their homes. >> reporter: one woman says she remembers a letter pg&e sent to homeowners stating it was raising rates to repair the pipeline explosion. she said that wasn't done and now they need to be held accountable. so farther ntsb has slammed the investigation saying t

. >> wikileaks release of state departments is apparently a mistake.ine says they mistakenly released the unredacted files. it contained the names of confidential up form ants but still they keep at it. they have approached 130,000 new diplomatic cables. >> first facebook now another site is cutting daily deals program. l.a. times and bloomberg say yelp is getting out of the online coupon business and cutting half of the 30 person staff that is dedicated to the daily deals. facebook announced it was ending the online coupons over the weekend. experts many websites are getting out of the game because merchants and consumers say they are swamped with too many offers. groupon dominates the field. >> focus on wall street today with bay area based electronic arts. >>> live from the exchange with more on what is going on. >> reporter: good morning. more down news on the housing marketed. home price index indicating home prices in the u.s. dropped an average of 4.5% in june compared to a year ago. that is a slower drop for may but still not great. national ho

that was after they refused to process payments on wikileaks.t down the plantation network as well. just a couple of weeks ago, then announced that they would attack facebook in november due to the social networking site's privacy settings. one to other news now, a man that police say is connected with the murder of a three year old boy is in police custody tonight. los vegas police apprehended to willie torrents. they believe he drove the car industry role you see here was hit along with two man that the police believe were targets of the shooting. prosecutors have already arrested this man, 26 year-old lawrence the dinar, he is in custody they believe that he pulled the trigger. in the meantime oakland police are investigating several other shootings that injured six people including two children over the weekend. here is what police know about the shootings. >> gun violence of the streets of oakland in the days following the drive-by shooting after a violent few days of shootings across the city. this roadside memorial marks the location of t

so they used the same strong arm techniques, senator lieberman got amazon to stop donations to wikileaks. he could make a nasty call and get the company to stop doing something he didn't like that. is very disturbing to me. >> john: in virginia and washington, d.c. they do ban radar detectors. i'm not bothered from that. >> people in the open 70s when detectors came out. people will be speeding left and right but we haven't seen that be the case. >> john: this will continue. thank you barry sloka. [ applause ] >> john: we know that drunk drivers kill people so laws save lives right. the next guest says no they don't and we should abolish these laws. he'll explain why. [ applause ] while energy developement comes with some risk, north america's natural gas producers are committed to safely and responsibly providing decades of cleaner burning energy for our country, drilling thousands of feet below fresh water sources within self contained well systems and using state of the art monitoring technologies, rigorous practices help ensure our operations are safe and clean for our communities an

in 2010 we had wikileaks and the dump the state department diplomatic cables. again, there were accusations of treason, denouncements, prosecutions from officials probably blowing smoke for public assumption. i don't advocate going timeless in the least. i don't think it's treason, but i don't think there's a sense of post-national patriotism is the same as traditional notions of patriotism. we'll get into that later. i certainly p don't think it should be bombed. i read the times as a kid. i was proud early in my career to be published prom innocently in it. i consider the times an important national resource all be it in danger one, and i confess to being a new yorker referring to it as the paper. i wandered down to the newsstand if i was out of town because i got withdrawal systems, but sadly, those days of that young man and that "new york times" are gone. the generations of the time was considered the gold standard of american journalism, and the institution was considered central to the public discourse and policy dates at the core of our democracy, and o

it was published by wikileaks.iant had no anti-counterfeiting team in place until early 2008, long after the i-pod was a worldwide hit. chinese government shut down a number of phony apple stores designed to look like the real thing. >> libyan rebels are confident they will catch moammar khadafy. they say rebels have a good idea where he is hiding. alan wang shows many libyans here in the bay area are celebrating. >> he is back hope with the fellow libyan ex-patted patriots after celebrating the fall of benghazi. >> who gave you it. from who? [ laughter ] >> i'm ready to go. >> its special celebration at the fremont restaurant. the end of ramadan dan and the end of moammar khadafy's regime. he went back to witness it back in july. >> they knock out all the khadafy was shooting at civilians. >> many business people say friends and family suffered under khadafy who i am pros on and scud any one that opposed him. >> some were taken to jail and some were hung publicly. >> now there is demand to get the country moving a