. >> this wikileaks is unbelievable. >> wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> i am joined now by randy credicooversial figure. but what you said on this news program appears to have been borne out in public now. why is julian assange saying he's willing to talk, and do you think he really would talk to investigators? >> well, i think that he would, provided that the parameters are set in a way that's not unfavorable to him. and it can't be a trap. they have to treat him respectfully and they have to do it with a lot of professionalism, not just go in there and do some kind of surprise attack. >> do you believe as someone who's interacted with him, and you have been favorable to him -- >> yes. >> -- that he will be accurate to the u.s. committees about a matter that he has appeared to prejudge and been defensive about, saying this is all garbage? >> well, i think he -- listen, you have to sit down with the person. he's a very honest individual, very forthright, a man of grave integrity. i think that if they work it out, it would be a real boon. i think you'll find out there isn't that much to i

wikileaks. >> this wikileaks is unbelievable. >> it is like a treasure trove. >> and there is more election year turmoil as chris collins was indicted on suspicion of insider trading. collins a president early supporters charged with 13 counts of securities fraud and bank fraud with his pharmaceutical company. >> congressman collins cheated our markets and our justice system. >> reporter: so the white house and the president have not responded to the insider trading charges there for one of the president's top advisers. but it is still russia that is hanging over the president on a variety of fronts. but as for the potential interview, rudy guiliani is saying that he wants to avoid a perjury trap potentially and not have the president sit for an interview on questions he's already answered. so, wolf, as they go back and forth, this is one of the longest and hottest negotiations of the summer. again it increasingly looks like it is less and less likely to happen no matter the president saying repeatedly he would like to sit down with bob mueller. >> jeff zeleny reporting. >>> more on the bre

vonnie: separately, wikileaks tweeted this morning that the u.s.telligence committee has called on -- on eight wikileaks member to testify. apparently, it could be at a chooses.t wikileaks do we anticipate something to come out of this? how did this happen all of a sudden? toluse: wikileaks has been a big player in the investigation, behind-the-scenes because of their role in 2016 in releasing some of the males -- some of the emails hacked, including hillary clinton's campaign manager. republicans and democrats on capitol hill have been wanting to know more about what wikileaks was doing and whether they were in touch with anyone or involved in any campaigns, so there is the desire to know more about how they went about leaking the information. it is not surprised why the intelligence committee wants to talk to them but how they would work out cooperation remains to be seen. wikileaks has not been well regarded among the u.s. intelligence community or on capitol hill. in part because they have leaked information that is described as highly sensitiv

before wikileaks released them. she is not offering any proof, but she certainly is implying, ken, that she has handed that stuff over to robert mueller's team. and just in case you are wondering or questioning whether she actually was interviewed by robert mueller, i checked in with one of her lawyers. one of her lawyers did confirm that. >> right. i mean, this goes to the heart, katy, of the collusion case that some people suspect that donald trump was involved in, which is did he know in advance about the russian hacked emails? you know, you asked him at the moment he said -- he asked russia to find the missing hillary clinton emails and you followed up and made sure he wasn't kidding. from that moment on there was a question about what did the trump campaign know about russian efforts to pursue hillary clinton's emails and release them through wikileaks. if she has any evidence to that effect, any tapes, that's absolutely explosive. and judging from her interview with you and craig melvin, i am assuming the spec

wikileaks is believed to be that organization. stone is kept surfacing as a predictor of what was the information to come and the guccifer 2.0 account was cited in there. that was openly available information. that is not really clear is which of these people or which of these things are coming up. so the manhattan madam, what did she have in terms of access? she knows timeline. she can help corroborate that. she knows communications and she may know finances. it could be about other associates she saw and you would want to confirm the timelines, especially when you are dealing with the wikileaks issue. >> who is randy cred co? >> an activist in new york. he has been involved with politics. he does impersonations of people on phones. he used to go on the albany show all the time with the "new york post" guy. >> what does he have to do with roger stone? >> roger claimed that he was his conduit or he was his contact for -- who gave him information in germs of julian assange or wikileaks and what was going to be released. i was asked

but omarosa claiming that the president knew about the emails, the wikileaks emails, before wikileaks released them. i pressed to find out why she thought that. she didn't have an answer for that or how she knew that. now rudy giuliani, the president's own lawyer, is forced to comment on this and he is calling her a liar. listen. >> she is lying. i know she is lying because i was on the campaign more than she was. i was closer to him than she was. from about june to november, i was with him 24 hours a day. the first wikileaks exposure, he was completely surprised. >> nick, what do you make of that? >> well, look, first of all, the mayor has had credibility problems himself acting as the president's lawyer. he has changed his story in several areas a couple of times. we are dealing with two people that have credibility problems here. it's hard to know who to believe. i think the critical question is the one you hinted at earlier. if she has all these tapes, do her tapes include any firm evidence that the president knew in advance? that is a question that will take what is basically a r

i had a 20 forward exchange with him on wikileaks direct message long after wikileaks had already published the allegedly hacked dnc emails. innocuous. ed: the crime related to coalition and talking to wikileaks is what you are maintaining tonight but in the case of paul manafort, many years ago, wasn't recent, doesn't appear he has anything to do with russian collusion but is facing potentially many years in jail for crimes that have nothing to do with the 2016 election. do you fear you are next? >> it is possible a runaway federal prosecutor could conjure up some offense on my part in an effort to pressure me to testify against the president or just to silence me because i have been an articulate critic of the partisan nature of the mueller process but as to any crime relating to the election, russian collusion, wikileaks collaboration or any other misdeed having to do with the 2016 election, no, no other offense i'm aware of. on the other hand the grand jury system is a very 1-sided system, they ask you leading questions, kristin davis said this morning on fox but when she tried to expla

now radio host identified as the back channel to wikileaks is called to testify. is the special counsel closing in? >>> hush money. aide claiming in the new book offered hush money after being fired. omarosa newton who once defended the president of charges of racism is making own claims in a tell-all book. should she be believed? >>> marching again. the white supreme cysts acists marching again. how will the president respond this time? >>> citizen-in-laws. the president said he wants to stop what he called chain migration and now his own in-laws, the parents of the first lady, sworn in using the same process. is the height of hypocrisy? wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim acosta and you're in "the situation room." >>> breaking news, series of fast-moving developments in the russia investigation all centered of long time confidant of roger stone, telling cnn he's not contacted by robert mueller's team, a friend of stone's known as the manhattan madame decides to face a grand jury, a former aide of stone's is refusing to go before a grand jury and the special couns

this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> reporter: republicans are facing more election year turmoil as new york congressman chris collins was indicted on suspicion of insider trading. collins, a president's earliest supporter, charged with 13 counts of security fraud, wire fraud and false statements in a scheme of an australian pharmaceutical company. >> congressman collins cheated our markets and our justice system. >> reporter: now, all this, wolf, coming amid fresh signs of warning signs on the horizon for republicans. the ohio special congressional race we have been talking so much about is still too close to call. the republican leading by about 1,700 votes or so and not declaring a winner in the race. the president is declaring winners saying he helped rescue that republican candidate. wolf, that's a district that should have been republican solid through and through and held for several decades. so the white house even here in new jersey, wolf, keeping an eye on the midterm

yes, i had an innocuous 24 word exchange with him on wikileaks direct messages come along after wikileaks had already published the allegedly hacked dnc emails. innocuous. >> ed: you are saying there'd be no crime to any alleged -- any talking to guccifer, wikileaks, what you are maintaining tonight. as you know, the case of paul manafort, i believe your partners in a firm in washington many years ago, it wasn't recent, but bottom line, paul manafort, doesn't appear, has nothing to do with russian collusion but is facing potentially many years in jail for crimes that have nothing to do with a 2016 election. do you fear your next? >> it certainly is possible that a runaway federal prosecutor could conjure up some offense on my part in an effort to pressure me to testify against the president, or to just silence me because i have been, i think, and articulate critic of the partisan nature of the mueller process. but as to any crime relating to the election, russian collusion, wikileaks collaboration, or any other misdeed having to do the 2016 election, no. and no other offense that i am awa

wikileaks, of course, released many of those e-mails that were hacked by the russians during the 2016 campaign. what this all shows, this late e subpoena in particular, is that roger stone could be under investigation by the special counsel's team. you know, this subpoena is also for randy credico to testify before a grand jury on september 7th. that's a pretty key date because it means mueller's investigation will still be going full steam ahead after september 1st. of course, jim, even though earlier this week rudy giuliani said he expected the probe to be wrapped up by september 1, and it looks like virtue of this subpoena, that will not be happening. >> also today, andrew miller ski skipped out on a subpoena from mueller's team. what's the deal with skipping out on subpoenas? what more can you tell us? >> that's right. so andrew miller skipped out today. he was supposed to be in court. the judge found him in contempt. but he's refusing to be in court. so that's one side of this. the so-called manhattan madam, kristen davis, she did comply with the subpoena. she is before the grand

stone in his statement to cnn did say that collusion with russia and collaboration with wikileaks were both improprietys. he denies he did either one. actually unlike president trump, he's actually admitted those things are not hoaxes, indeed, they are proper. it's why they are the focus of mueller's investigation. >> but michael, how does a former madam get to us wikileaks, julian assange and the connection that tim just outlined for us? >> this is a salacious detail in the investigation. but there is nothing unusual about it. it's not unusual for a prosecutor to -- when they have a particular heir of interest or person or group of interests to work through contacts to sort of continue to interview their way through to investigate their way through the layers of individuals between them and that group of contact. in this case it's people in the trump administration. it's a simple example is you may remember there was the blow pop commercial, talking how many licks does it get to the middle of the blow pop. that's sort of what mueller is doing, working from the outside n. i think what

in the white house who said anything remotely that serious that he knew about the e-mails before wikileaks released them. what's your reaction? >> it's like she spoiled the finale for us. there are a lot of publicly known facts. there's some information in the indictments that's been released that leads us to believe the president may have known. we don't know for certain. your campaign manager knows. jared kushner knows. your son knows and you're one floor up. is it outside of the realm of the possibility to believe that the president may have been known in advance that russia had some illegally obtained e-mails and were going to release them later in the summer as donald trump said famously in the e-mail to the russian businessman. it's important to understand this is an incredible allegation coming from someone who we all discussed all week may not be the most credible source. she has tapes to back up what she's saying. >> beth, do you think she's not credible? >> she comes off as very credible in the interviews. the fact she's got tapes to back her up reinforcing the credibility. the q

so let's let this country see where wikileaks got the information from. we will see you posted when or if the senate intel does in fact interview julian assange. by the way, the house, they need to do the same thing. if the american people, you deserve the truth. but regardless of what you think about wikileaks, it's irrelevant. we know one thing for certain. president trump in no way y colluded with russia and instead the president has been extremely tough on vladimir putin's hostile regime and today we have one more example. tough new u.s. sanctions levied against russia in response to an assassination attempt of a former british spy conducted with chemical or biological weapons. these new sanctions will be applied to all russianon state owned businesses and will reportedly affect 70% of thehe russian economy. i thought the president was compromised by putin.ia that's what fake news tells us, or nbc news suggesting he might actually be a russian agent. president trump -- while the president makes serious policy decisions and as he's conducting consequen

the russians then passed those e-mails to wikileaks. if the president knew about the e-mails before wikileaks released them, that would raise a lot of new questions about how exactly he knew. but last night on cnn, rudy giuliani disputed omarosa's accounts and said that the president was just as surprised as everyone else. >> she's lying. >> i know she's lying because i was on the campaign more than she was. i was closer to them than she was. from june to november, i was with him 24 hours a day. the first wikileaks exposure, he was completely surprised. >> he definitely wasn't with the president 24 hours a day. but regardless, omarosa has spoken with robert mueller and that folks in the white house should certainly be on guard. >> how worried are folks and the white house staffers about this 53 the mueller investigation? >> they should be very worried? >> are they worried? >> absolutely. >> what are they worried about? >> because they have been hiding things, hiding things from the american people and being very dishonest. >> staffers h

stone telling cnn i realize that he was a wikileaks lawyer and not assange himself. a at know imtime did he tell me the source or cone of wikileaks disclosures would be. while davis appears to be cooperating. another former aide andrew miller didn't appear for a scheduled grand jury hearing and held in contempt. his attorney telling reporters. >> we supplied all the documents that they wanted. so we had to have one thing that he was refusing to do, namely go before the grand jury. and in order for us to get the contempt and to appeal. >> now as you know rudy giuliani has said that he hopes that this investigation is over by september 1st. it seems clear that that is not going to happen. ed the lawyer telling us that he plans to testify before the grand jury on september 7th. >> the plot thickens. joining us to discuss paul kalin. read the tea leaves for us when it comes to roger stone and all the people close to him that mueller wants to talk to what is clear. >> you know, ana, you have to have the back story first on roger stone. he has been the sort of the king of

all of this is happening at robert mueller just subpoenaed the man who stone said was his wikileaks back channel and another layer to this today, another close stone friend the woman known as the manhattan mad am, kristin davis is taking the stand before the grand jury in the investigation. so let's talk this all out with dana bash, she's our cnn chief political correspondent and cnn legal analyst and robert mueller's assistance at the doj, so good to see both of you and dana, bottom line, the walls seem to be closing in on roger stone. >> ever since we saw the most recent indictment that robert mueller put out there, it was pretty clear that there was a description of an unnamed person who was roger stone. that was a giant red blinking light that roger stone is in trouble and this is another. it's actually just a reminder that there is understandably a lot of focus on the manafort trial. there is a lot of focus on whether or not the president will ever sit down for an interview with robert mueller. there's a focus on what really happened in that trump tower meeting, but then there are c

we subsequently know that he was communicating with wikileaks. chose not to -- chose not to tell the investigative committee how he was doing that. but, you know, it's very clear that he had lots of communication, so he may be one of the missing pieces here. you know, we know the campaign was very interested in getting russian help. they reached out for it, they welcomed it. the question is did they know the timing, did they know the kind of help, did they communicate that back to the president or the president's campaign. of course roger stone, long known for his dirty tricks as a dirty trickster, his words, not mine, you know, would presumably get asked that under oath by the special counsel. >> would foreknowledge, advance knowledge of russian hacked e-mails and their release via wikileaks, and it's the u.s. intelligence community's view that wikileaks was used by russia to release those i mae-m, would advance knowledge of that amount to collusion in your view? >> well, remember, so that's a no-brainer to answer. of course it's collusion. if y

he seems to have been in touch with wikileaks. right now. look how far -- how distant is roger stone from donald trump? there's e-mails. we could help on the timing of that. doesn't tell donald trump about that? famously quit from the campaign -- >> stayed in touch. >> stayed in touch. he is trump's closest political adviser for 25 years. >> ran his presidential campaign in 2000. >> right. the little one until it faded away. right? so i mean, no. the idea that going after stone doesn't get you very, very close to trump and whether there might be other evidence, stone was in touch with trump, phone records, i just talked to roger. i think this is very dangerous for trump. >> and listen to this. because obviously this is the new world we are in. sean hannity took the day off from the radio show and jake sekulow substitute hosted for him and rudy giuliani, the other presidential attorney call in and basically did sean hannity's show today. here's a little bit of chat, this just happened chatting about negotiations with mueller's team

and organization one appears to be wikileaks, and it's about how guccifer 2.0, which hacked into the e-mails, was coordinating on the release with organization one. in that section, there is a portion that says that guccifer 2.0 was also in touch with the senior -- with a person who had contacts with senior members of the trump campaign, and they were contacting him. how this relates back to davis is that davis was on roger stone's payroll in late 2016 when these contacts would have happened with the person with contacts to the senior trump officials. so if that is roger stone and she was on the payroll doing clerical work, which is apparently what she was doing, she may have seen e-mail traffic or other communications either between stone and wikileaks or other entities. so if she is the person referred to in the indictment, that could be the nexus that they are trying to look into further. >> morgan, you've obviously spent a lot of time with roger stone making the documentary. is he fazed by this kind of stuff? i mean does this freak him out? you know, i've interviewed him a couple

>> the wikileaks dump? >> the wikileaks and also the trolling account. >> you're right. factually, that's a big gap we have to see if mueller is able to bridge. the eventual hacking and posting of wikileaks. but if there is no link ultimately, what you said right up front is correct. even if there was no ultimate delivery of dirt, you still have a crime. under federal law and i think every state law, just the agreement to commit a crime is a conspiracy. as long as there's an agreement plus some minimal action and here i'd say the team of russians that flew half across the world is more than enough. just the agreement itself is a conspiracy. and even if they tried and didn't get the information, that's still an attempt. both of those things are still crimes in and of themselves. >> peter, i want to ask you something about this working vacation, if you will and the president's retreat and the reports we saw our friend and colleague ashley parker in "the washington post" in writing on -- and phil rucker writing on saturday that the president is really getting exacerbated, g

the first wikileaks exposure he was surprised. he asked me do you think there will be more. i told him i have no idea. i heard some reporters on cnn or fox or i don't know where that there is a practice putting tout weakest ones first and he builds it up and builds it up. i said i think this guy may have more than that. >> so bradley. the president's attorney is he a witness to a significant event here? >> he's making himself into a witness. s t this is rudy giuliani, he's making himself to be a material witness to numerous rinehapartse campaign who would have been there. he's putting himself in the position of possibly getting contradicted both in the public and proceeding on the facts. july of 2016, donald trump was talking about russia, i hope you can find the 30,000 e-mails and he's talking about the idea that there is going to be a huge releaser and a huge discovery and he got some big bomb shells coming up. does this prove that he knew in advance? no, of course not. anything omarosa says should be taken with a massive grain of salt. the steps by rudy giuliani are not h

by that i mean the mysterious connection between stone, wikileaks and julian asange. mueller is focus on that like a laser because that's where you get hacking charges and emolument clauses and in the middle of that is roger stone, a guy that's been playing dirty politics for years. mueller knows a lot more about stone than any of us do. why? because the u.s. intelligence community has been monitoring wikileaks and asange, they considered him a criminal. it is possible that roger stone may have actually tripped into coverage by the u.s. intelligence community of asange and wikileaks and it is possible that mueller has all of that documentation and intercepts and sitting there and knowing what stone said and did with julian. >> the last part of what frank said in effect of equivalent of walking through the beam of a spotlight would be a very bad look for roger stone. ken, given what you know and talk about what stone have called his 40 years friendship with donald trump and the kind of damage a guy like that can do. >> yes, i also think that roger stone, frank used the

she knows nothing about russian collusion, wikileaks, i understand she appeared voluntari voluntarily. i am highly confident she will testify truthfully if called upon to do some davis once ran a high end prostitution ring and went to jail as a part of surrounding then new york governor eliot spitzer. >> the remorse i feel will always business with me. >> she has worked with stone over the years and in late 2016, she joined his payroll to help him with cleric am tax. mueller's team had been looking into possible contacts between stone and wikileaks julian assange. >> i followed assange's twitter feed, very aciduously. you can foreshadow what he is doing. >> i am not involved with the collusion, conspiracy with the russians or anyone else. there is no evidence to the contrary. >> reporter: investigators have been probing his finances and personal life. people familiar with the situation say at least two witnesses were asked whether stone was actually the fwauts of davis' son. earlier this week, stone posted a photo of david and her child to instagram with this caption. why do fbi agent

the e-mails from hillary clinton. >> the first wikileaks exposure, he was completely surprised. he asked me do you think there will be more. we were surprised every time. >> president trump's campaign filed arbitration against omarosa claims she violated a nondisparagement agreement. president trump has used the agreements throughout his business career. he sued a ms. universe contestant for $5 million in 2013 for publicly complaining the beauty pageant was rigged. >>> and the death toll continues to climb after the bridge collapsed in italy. nearly 40 people now confirmed dead. charlie is there. . >> reporter: crushed cars still hang from what's left of the bridge while crews pull more bodies out of tons and rubble and twisted steel. cuers with dogs searched through the night in a desperate hope that somewhere buried beneath the concrete, someone had managed to survive. during a heavy rainstorm, the bridge suddenly plunged #150e feet -- 150 feet down in a river bed and buildings and city streets, taking dozens of vehicles and those inside with it. this is cell phone footage tha

#wikileaks. now since all of this roger stone has insist head didn't know anything about russian collusion. he didn't participate. and so far he has not been called in to to meet with mueller. >> clearly an important story. thank you very much, sara, for that report. >>> meanwhile, prosecutors have laid out the lavish lyle steiff of paul manafort. now on day four of his trial, they're digging into details of his alleged tax and bank fraud. evan perez is over at the federal court in alexandria, virginia. evan, what's the latest? >> well, wolf, we got some of the most important testimony that we've had so far in this trial. we heard from two of paul manafort's accountant, and both testified that he did not disclose to them that he owned these foreign bank accounts that the government says were simply money that he stash aid a way, $60 million that he got paid over the years from ukrainian oligarchs and ukrainian government people that he was working for. they both testified that paul manafort and r

it was randy credico who roger stone said was his back channel to wikileaks and wikileaks founder julian assange. we know credico initialy refused an interview. he has now agreed to a voluntary interview. this grand jury subpoena is for september 7. not too far away, less than a month away. it really shows that this investigation continues to go on. it continues to move forward. it looks like roger stone is a big part of this investigation. roger stone himself has not been in contact with the special counsel's office, but all of these people in his orbit are now part of this special counsel probe. again, the manhattan madam is before the grand jury today. we know andrew miller, who is also a confidant of roger stone, he was also subpoenaed. he has not appeared. he will be held in contempt. and now this latest subpoena for randy credico. one last thing, john. rudy giuliani talked about this investigation wrapping up by september 1st. we can see that just by the mere fact that this subpoena for randy credico is for september 7th, that looks very unlikely, and it won't happen. john? >> very

, and how the president knew before wikileaks released it.s what yugiuliani said. >> omarosa's restraint in doling out her nuggets of information is what has them on edge. >> manafort might be going to prison for the rest of his life. we'll see what the jury decides. you have his former, most -- one of his most loyal aides, secretly taping him and other staffers, and unloading it piece by piece, michael cohen, by the way, still hasn't been indicted, there's all this talk about whether he's going to coordinate or cooperate with sdny, will he cooperate with robert mueller? that is a lot of pressure on the president. also, his press secretary can't say he's never used the "n" word. >> the point on the mueller report is, it is -- i'd be amazed if it's released between now and the election. they have a dead zone that prosecutors use before elections in some cases, six weeks, eight weeks where they don't want to -- jim comey, notwithstanding, generally the policy is they don't want to do things that might -- >> aren't we in that time zone already?

he kind of knew what was coming from wikileaks before it happened. so here's what kristen davis told cnn about what the grand jury wanted to know from her. >> i think their really genuinely concerned about whether or not any collusion happened with russia and so their line of questioning really did resolve around whether or not this happened. i think there's the general concern for some things that he seemed to predict. his tweets. the podesta tweet, you know, has been the subject of much controversy all over the media and also puts him in a position to wonder how he was able to predict. >> now, of course, roger stone insists he did nothing wrong, there was no collusion, he says he wasn't involved with wikileaks, he just happened to be an avid follower but mueller's team is very interested in anyone who has anything to do with roger stone. >> if you look back at stone's tweets during that time, repeatedly claiming foreknowledge and after that the releases came out. final question on this, the president has for months taken shots at the russia investi

wikileaks had obtained e-mails. five months before wikileaks released the e-mails. miller may have been a no-show today but his lawyer was at the courthouse. in the meantime, miller could be sent to jail for refusal to comply and if that happens, there is a none zero chance, miller manafort and maria butina. joining me now. ben, i will start with you. how often does someone not show up when they are subpoenaed? >> well, it is the way if you are going to challenge say the appointment of bob mueller which is what mr. miller is doing, that is how you do it. you move to quash a subpoena. and then you get held in contempt and you appeal the contempt finding and so that's actually not a wholly improper way of challenging mueller's appointment which is what miller wants to do. judge howell, chief judge of the district court wrote a lengthy opinion saying there is no problem with the appointment and the subpoena is valid. and every reason to expect the d.c. circuit to affirm her on that. and this is at the end of the day, a lot of stern and drang with an order for him to ap

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intelligence community has been monitoring wikileaks and julian assange. they consider julian assange a criminal. and it's possible, brian, that roger stone may have actually tripped into coverage by the u.s. intelligence community of assange and wikileaks and it's possible mueller has all of that documentation, even intercepts, and is sitting there with it knowing exactly what stone said and did with julian. >> and ken, as no one needs to remind you, that last part of what frank just said, in effect the equivalent of walking through the beam of a spotlight would be a very bad look for roger stone. ken, given what you know and talk about what stone has called his 40-year friendship with donald trump and the kind of damage a guy like that can do. >> yes, i also think that roger stone, frank used the phrase, "trip into," roger stone has made a long career of sort of exaggerating this role and his significance in some of these episodes of dark arts and dirty tricks. all the way back from watergate, where he was just the tiniest bit player in the nixon operati

the first wikileaks exposure he was completely surprised. he asked me do you think there will be more? i told him i have no idea but i heard some reporter on cnn, fox, i don't know where that he builds it up, build tsz up. i said i think this guy may have more than that. >> so bradley, the president's attorney potentially -- is he a witness to a significant event here? >> he's making himself into a witness. this is certain laenot how i would handle but this is rudy giuliani. this is who he is. this is the spin he's doing. but he's making himself a material witness to numerous parts of the campaign and been there whdonald trump was learni things. remember in july of 2016 donald trump was talking about russia, i hope you can find the emails and there's going to be a huge discovery. this happened all in the context of the trump tower meeting. does this prove he knew in advance? flow. the steps simply not helping his client. >> so jennifer, today, president trump continued his attack on attorney general jeff sessions saying if we had a real atto

>> yes. >> he knew what was copping out before wikileaks release them. you're saying donald trump had a back channel. >> i didn't say that. you did. expose the corruption that went on in the campaign and the white house. i'm going to continue to blow the whistle on all of that. >> gets your attention. just few hours ago, the president's lawyer rudy giuliani responded to omarosa's claim about those clinton e-mails. >> i know she is lying because i was on the campaign more than she was. i was closer to him than she was. i was from about june to november, i was with him 24 hours a day. it's not in a book, i guarantee you she didn't tell the special prosecutor that. >> on that note let's bring in our lead-off panel. former congresswoman donna edwards, a democrat from the great state of maryland. philip rucker for "the washington post." and jonathan lemire, white house reporter for the associated press. phil, i would like to begin with you. you have written and reported that people are rattled inside the west wing and elsewhere. let's put hit the way. every s

and randy creditdy cowho has been reported to be the back channel between stone and wikileaks founder julian assange has been subpoenaed to praesh before the grand jirl september 7th. that could be seen as an indication this investigation will not be over or paused by the first of the month as trump's lawyers have demanded. sam nunberg, former trump campaign adviser linked to roger stone has already testified before a mueller grand jury. he was on this network earlier today and offered this prediction. >> ultimately mueller wants to indict roger. i think this indictment he's going to have a very sflashy sexy charge conspiracy to defraud, thing to do with hacking mails. >> let's bring in our panel, frank figliuzzi director for counter intelligence who work ford robert mueller, ken vogel, political reporter for the "new york times" and annie carney white house reporter for politico who has been busy today for reasons weigh get to. frank, let's begin with you. what do you make and more importantly, what will robert mueller and his team make of the president's co-counsel on the radio toda

mueller is focused on stone because of his connection to wikileaks and its hacks into the e-mails of the dnc and hillary clinton's campaign chair. mueller also wants to talk to another former aid of stone's, andrew miller, but miller doesn't seem to be very eager to cooperate. he's even been held in contempt after refusing to testify to the mueller grand jury. for more on all of this, i'm joined by nbc news senior investigative producer, anna schecter. anna, you've been following this case. what's going on with kristin davis. why would she be in there for this long? >> well, she's known him for so many years. so the prosecutors could be asking her about roger stone's financials going back years. this could be a very broad scope. going on for hours, it leads me to believe that they're not only looking at the wikileaks connection, which is the key part, but they're also asking her about roger stone and all the various political campaigns that he's been working on. sam nunberg was on earlier, he was brought into the grand jury and they asked him, tell me every single person roger stone

she knows of no russian collusion or wikileaks collaboration or any other illegal activity on my parttion with presidential election or otherwise. and she's going to talk to the prosecutors voluntarily. she is not looking for a media circus in her life. she is going to tell the truth. of that i am certain. >> it seems, though, what they are interested in, again, i don't know this, but the only thing that just from the outside it would seem that they would be interested in is any knowledge she would have of your schedule, your e-mail communications, any e-mails you exchange with other people since she had a role in -- would she know about that? would she know -- what exactly -- what kind of work was she doing for you? >> well, in the time period that is most under focus, 2015, 2016, she was not working for me. she came back to work for me in january of '17, although i think i paid her in december of 2016. but i believe that my e-mails have been thoroughly reviewed by the special counsel under a fisa warrant or some other warrant, and there is no evidence of russian collusion or wikilea

she knows nothing about russian collusion, wikileaks collaboration, or any other impropriety related to the 2016 election, which i thought was the subject of this probe. i understand she appeared voluntarily. i am highly confident she will testify truthfully if called upon to do so. davis once ran a high-end prostitution ring and went to jail in the scandal surrounding then democratic governor eliot spitzer. >> the remorse i feel will always be with me. >> reporter: she has worked with stone over the years. and in late 2016, she joined his payroll to help him with clerical tasks. mueller's team has been looking into possible contact between stone and wikileaks founder, julian assange, as well as stone's contact with russia during the 2016 campaign. stone admitted to trading direct twitter messages with guccifer 2.0, which is now known to be an online persona for russian intelligence officers. but stone says the messages were innocuous. >> i certainly acknowledge that i was in touch with trump campaign officials. and i have testified under oath to the house intelligence committee that

mueller's team has been looking into possible contact between stone and wikileaks founder julian assange during the 2016 campaign. u.s. intelligence concluded russian intelligence senior democratic officials and provided the sole material to wikileaks as part of moscow's effort to meddle in the election. assange denies the hacked documents came from the russian government while stone once bragged about being in contact with eleni giokos. >> i have communicated with assange. i believe the next trench of his documents pertain to the clinton foundation but there's no telling what the october surprise may be. >> he later walked it back. >> i followed assange's twitter feed assiduously. i had a google alert. i read every interview he gave. i'm not involved in collusion, coordination or conspiracy with the russians or anyone else and there's no evidence to the contrary. >> >> reporter: investigators have been probing stone's finances. people familiar with the situation say at least two witnesses were asked whether stone was the father of davis' son. earlier this month, stone posted a photo of

stone telling cnn, i now realize that credico's source was a wikileaks lawyer. at no time did credico tell me what the source may be. and another colleague of stones andrew miller did not appear for a -- testimony before a grand jury. >> we had one thing that he was refusing to do, namely go before the grand jury in order for us to get the contempt and the appeal. >> reporter: rudy giuliani says he wants this investigation to be wrapped up by september 1, it seems clear that that is not going to happen. randy credico says he intends to appear before the grand jury in the fall. >>> we're also following explosive allegations in a new book by former white house aid and tv personality amarosa newman. boris sanchez has details from new jersey where the president is at his bedminster golf club. there's references in the book that amarosa called the president a racist and that the president tried to buy her silence, what can you tell us? >> reporter: really appalling allegations coming from amarosa manigold newman who says that president trump tried to pay her hush mon

talking about how he loves wikileaks and he's encouraging them to release more and to hack more. so i think it's simple enough for the american public to start connecting the dots. i think the president realizes that that is what's happening. >> do you think the president is right to worry about the legal jeopardy of his son? >> i think the president has right to worry about his son and i think he has a very even right, equal right, to be worried about his own legal issues. everything is connected here. the fact is we're watching a trial for mr. manafort that appears to be just financial criminal acts on his part. that's what he's accused of doing, but obviously this is all within the same web of money laundering that could have taken place with the bank that was fined $600 million for laundering money illegally with the russians. where were all these things happening? cypress. if we're allowed to continue that investigation, and we've barely scratched the surface, we'll find out more on what took place. last week the president said something after he asked mr. sessions to shut d

she knows nothing about russian collusion or wikileaks or any other thing. also this news -- washington post reports that another stone aide has been ordered to speak with robert mueller. this man was trying to not speak with him. one of his aides, was trying to say the special counsel as probe was too wide and he shouldn't have to follow a subpoena. the court ruled he should have to talk to robert mueller and should do so quickly. harry, these two people, what do they have anything to do with this and what does it have anything to do with roger stone? >> it's all about roger stone. they're a colorful could be, aren't they? they're zeroing in on stone and she's one of many people they want to talk to, the others haven't been madams. miller is to stone as gates was to manafort. he's the right hand man. he offered the constitutional argument, which was a loser saying mueller has no ability to did anything. the same thing manafort tried. he lost. he's going to have some real information to provide. the main thing it shows is that the sights are really locked in

she knows nothing about russian collusion, wikileaks. am highly confident she will testify truthfully if called upon to do so. what do you think, garrett? >> juliet had a point there i wanted to emphasize and expand upon. mueller is not on a wild goose case to turn up criminal investigations, criminal charges against anyone for anything. in fact, it was cnn's reporting originally on monday this week that showed that he has turned over the tony podesta and vin weber ends of his investigation to the southern district of new york, the manhattan federal prosecutors. what that means is that what he's actually doing, and we see this with the michael cohen case and we see this in a number of other instances, he's handing off things that don't seem related to his core russia probe. so the fact that he is staying focused on roger stone means that he thinks roger stone is the center or part of the center of this russia question. this isn't sort of some unrelated tax charges or, you know, some prostitution or escort charges dating back to the 1990s

if anybody knew about the e-mails coming out of wikileaks. another key focus of the investigation. >> there's no evidence of special counsel mueller wastes time with witnesses or questions. president trump in a long string of inflammatory tweets today taking another shot at the attorney general. he's done this before. clearly with the intention of undermining the russia investigation. but this is particularly pointed this time. >> yeah. that's right. he has gone over after jeff sessions for months but public humiliation campaign of sorts saying over the weekend he was scared stiff. this time in the aftermath of the firing of the fbi agent peter strzok who, of course, sent those anti-trump texts, he tweeted this this morning. if we had a real attorney general this witch hunt never would have been started. looking at the wrong people and clear that it's all part of an effort to perhaps pressure jeff sessions to maybe step aside and nut a loyalists to tamp down the investigation and knows if he fires jeff sessions that could open up a whole set