. >>> wikileaks. i love wikileaks. >> it's time to call-out wikileaks for what it really is. >> they are going to manually recount these. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. >>> we want to welcome our viewers in the united states and around the world. this is "new day." it's friday, november 16th. 6:00 here in new york. we do begin with breaking news. >>> is the justice department filing charges against wikileaks founder, julian assange. the reason we pose it as a question is because this came to light in a strange way. in a filing unsealed in an unrelated case prosecuteders for the eastern district of virginia appears to be an inadvertent charge against assange. u.s. prosecutors have been investigating assange since 2010 when wikileaks began to public stolen u.s. documents. and robert mueller portrayed wikileaks as a illegal tool. >>> speaking of robert mueller, cnn has learned the president met with lawyers three times in week over three days. rudy guiliani who atte

the president repeatedly praising wikileaks on the campaign trail. >> wikileaks! i love wikileaks! >> reporter: cnn has also learned that mueller has been investigating a meeting between manafort and the ecuadorian president after the election in 2017. the special counsel specifically asked whether wikileaks or assange were discussed. all this as mueller's office on monday accused manafort of violating his plea deal by committing crimes and lies on a variety of subject matters. manafort's lawyers shot back, saying manafort believed he provided truthful information. the special counsel will now have to tell the judge what manafort lied about, revealing part of the investigation. the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani, telling cnn on tuesday, he did know manafort's team was running into problems and that the president is angry, arguing this wouldn't be happening to him if not for this perverse overzealous desire to get him. and back when manafort struck his plea deal with the special counsel two months ago, part of it included dropping the charges, 10 out of 18 charges that he was acc

wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> pr agent for wikileaks or presidential candidate? >> i don't know. everybody remembers the "access hollywood" tape. that's something that obviously caught the nation's attention. there was a nexus between the access hollywood tape now in terms of dates, and now corsi and roger stone have three conversations about you better get the wikileaks thing out soon. >> yeah, they were dropped something like 30 minutes after the "access hollywood" tape came out. there has always been a big question in this investigation is when they got the information. and stone said he never believed corsi was in touch with wikileaks anyway, and corsi said he called me over and over again and said if there's something to get out put it out now. >> the reason we know all of this now is that corsi and his legal team released these plea negotiations, these documents they had been in touch with with the special counsel. if you are part of the investigation how pissed are you right now that these documents just became public? the fact that the special counsel was willing to let c

wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> wow. >> look, a couple things about president trump and candidate trump, you know, what he said today, yesterday, five minutes ago could change. he could completely change his mind. what he waub sruss celebrating the campaign is wikileaks is a source of operational material on his opponent, hillary clinton. he was happy to celebrate that and we come to find out months later, he is president and his own secretary of state, in talking about wikileaks as hostile actor that is hostile to the united states. from a kind of a spin political point of view, i could see a potential wikileaks indictment if there are others caught up in his orbit associated with wikileaks and the president could try to distance himself from that, and he could say they are all bad actors and it didn't reach me but they are in it altogether. the president's comments about wikileaks up until now could become inoperative. >> he could try to do that but it would be disingenuous because of the amount of times he gushed over wikileaks during the campaign, unsubtle as saying i love wikileaks

wikileaks has aggressively denied the report.rt doesn't exactly have what you call a good record when it comes to telling the truth. manafort pled guilty to charges on lying on a plethora of topics. he admitted to lying on his federal taxes for years, lying to banks, lied about his lobbying work and also tried to convince other folks to lie about their lobbying. but wait. there's more. he lied about talking off the books payments saying, quote, i have never received a single off the books payment, neither have i ever done work for the governments of ukraine and russia. he said that reported was silly and nonsensical. during the campaign, he said that members of the trump team didn't push to change the republicans party platform on supporting ukraine, tilting it in a more pro-russia platform. and manafort also lied about this. >> are there any ties between mr. trump, you and your campaign and putin and his regime. >> no, there are not. it is absurd and there is no basis to it. >> of course, it wasn't absurd. despite all the denial

wikileaks -- i love wikileaks. go.here you jennifer robinson, if you could talk about pompeo and trump? statements as the head of the cia demonstrate the fervor within the cia and certainly to be seeking wikileaks prosecution. but to say receiving a publishing information is an attack on western values is frankly wrong in a dangerous statement to be coming from the head of the cia and someone who is been very senior in the trump administration. this cuts at the heart of constitutional protections for free speech. it is protected under the u.s. constititution to receive and publish information that is in the public interest, even classified information. in any publisher could be called a hostile intelligegence agency when media organizations around the world all the time, including "the new york times" and "the washington post," receive classified informatioion and publisish it when is s in e public interest,t, to sasay thas a a attack on western values is very dangerous statement that ought to be investigated. speaking

they cover wikileaks. wikileaks, there was great debate in washington, by the way, as to whether wikileaks was actually -- should actually be plead as a foreign power because of the damage they were doing in terms of leaking voluminous amounts of classified and secret -- top secret communications. what does that mean? it means our government is on them like a blanket. and so that means that mueller is privy to the other end of these conversations. he knows what's going on and when he finally sits people down and interviews them, it's either their choice to lie or tell the truth because he's got the answer. >> nick confessore, it's a great point, and i know you're all in on some of this forensic investigative reporting when bob mueller writes an indictment over the summer for some of these russians he had keystroke evidence. it means exactly what frank figliuzzi just explained. robert mueller knows everything that transpired, and he has a long history as someone who knows how to bust cybercrimes going all t

just came out, wikileaks. i love wikileaks. >> reporter: assange's lawyers deny the story. paul manafort issued this forceful denial. this story is totally false and deliberately libellous. i have never met julian assange or anyone connected to him, i have never been in contact with anyone connected to wikileaks, either directly or indirectly. i have never reached out to assange or wikileaks. any meeting between assange and manafort would likely be of high interest to the special counsel and its collusion questions. mueller's team met multiple times with manafort after he pleaded guilty in cement. on monday night, mueller's team told the court it was calling off the operation. accusing manafort of lying various times. manafort's lawyers shot back saying manafort believed he provided truthful information. mueller's team will now have to tell the judge what manafort lied about, revealing part of the investigation and the president's lawyer rudy guiliani telling cnn today he has been talking to manafort's defense

about 1,200 times, wikileaks, wikileaks, wikileaks.ll you, that's the president exploiting stolen information for his own purposes. and that is yet another potential crime, receipt of stolen property, exploiting it for your own benefit. so i actually think the assange piece is right smack in the middle of the russian piece and the trump campaign piece, and it's going to be really interesting to see what happens if we get our hands on assange. >> as glen just mentioned, wikileaks played a major part in trump's closing arguments again hillary clinton back in the 2016 lebs. he -- election. here's candidate trump repeatedly praising wikileaks doing the president's bidding. >> this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> this wikileaks is unbelievable. what we've learned about her and her people. >> oh, we love wikileaks. wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. >> boy, that wikileaks has done a job on her, hasn't it? >> i'll tell you, this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart. you got to read it. >> now this just came o

wikileaks during the 2016 presidential race. mueller's team has copies of the e-mails a source tells cnn, part of its investigation into whether stone had an inside track with wikileaks. and whether he shared any of that information with members of the trump campaign. in an e-mail on october 4th, 2016, bannon, then the trump campaign ceo wrote what was that this morning? stone published the e-mails in a column thursday for the right wing daily caller. bannon's e-mail came shortly after julian assange delivered a speech billed as an october surprise. >> i understand there's enormous expectation in the united states. >> but he didn't unveil new information, angering trump supporters that hoped for a bombshell on hillary clinton. stone explained the delay, fear, serious security concern. stone says his e-mail was based on public information. during his media event, assange promi promised more information was coming. at least one campaign official told investigators stone told campaign officials he had ties to assange, according to

i have never reached out it assange or wikileaks on anything matter. we are considering all legal options against "the guardian" who proceeded with the story even after being notified by my reps that it was false." >>> democrats are warning president trump that even dangling a pardon for paul manafort could lead to a charge of obstruction of justice. white house press secretary sarah sanders says she's confident the president was involved in no wrongdoing and was not part of any campaign collusion. she was asked whether a pardon for manafort is on the table. >> the president said this morning that robert mueller is ruining people's lives. is he considering a pardon for paul manafort or others prosecuted -- >> i'm not aware of any conversations for anyone's pardon involving this. >> but rudy giuliani is not ruling anything out. he tells cnn the president has been upset for weeks about what he considers the un-american, horrible treatment of manafort. president trump explaining why he's so skeptical of his own administration's report on the dire conseque

stone with any information regarding wikileaks, including what materials wikileaks possess order what wikileaks might do with those materials. and now here is the money. quote, in truth and in fact and as corsi well knew, after stone asked corsi to get in touch with wikileaks, corsi did not decline the request, as he stated in the interview. instead, he contacted an individual who resided in london, england, a guy who we know is ted malek to pass on stone's request to learn about materials in wikileaks's possession that could be relevant to the presidential's campaign. corsi thereafter told stone that wikileaks possessed information that would be damaging to then candidate hillary clinton and that wikileaks planned to release damaging information in october 2016. so we just got all of that tonight. draft court documents, apparently prepared by the special counsel's office and sent to jerome corsi basically to let him know what he will be, might be, could be charged with in terms of lying to investigators. prosecutors also included this draft plea offer which corsi -- in which corsi wo

new wikileaks, and i wanted to stay there, but i didn't want to keep you waiting. >> i love wikileaks! >> it sounds like, everybody gets a car! >> i don't know what you're talking about. but here's the question and definitely spot-on with the legal aspect of this. these are all different dots that mueller is looking at and how they connect is the big question. as we said, roger stone, as we remember, tauted about knowing that wikileaks was going to dump a bunch of hillary clinton e-mails six days before it happened. so we knew about some of the activity wikileaks was doing. and we also know the president was a big fan of what wikileaks was doing, obviously putting out information about his opposition. right now it is premature to see how this all connects together and if this was an inadvertent putting of asang's name on this. but there is too much cloud in here to not think there might be smoke or fire at the end of it. >> the obama administration was as big a faux or anti-fan of wikileaks. they were trying to find ways to charge asang for years. >> and they might have. michael hayde

and he never provided stone with any information regarding wikileaks, including what materials wikileaks possessed or what wikileaks might do with those materials. and not here's the money. quote, in truth and in fact and as corsi well knew, after stone asked corsi to get in touch with wikileaks, corsi did not decline the request, as he stated in the interview. instead, he contacted an individual who resided in london, england, a guy who we know is ted malek, to pass on stone's request to learn about materials in wikileaks' possession that could be relevant to the presidential's campaign. corsi thereafter told stone that wikileaks possessed information that would be damaging to then candidate hillary clinton and that wikileaks planned to release damaging information in october 2016. so we just got all of that tonight. draft court documents, apparently prepared by the special counsel's office and sent to jerome corsi basically to let him know what he will be, might be, could be charged with in terms of lying to investigators. prosecutors also included this draft plea offer which corsi --

they give it to wikileaks. wikileaks works with associated of the trump campaign.rump campaign is informe i. >> did donald trump know of this potential cooperation between his associates and wikileaks and their network. was the president just spit balling or did he have some proprietary information about what wikileaks had and what they were going to do with it that could influence the campaign? there's a lhuge difrs -- difference there. >> what this really boils down to and if you look at mueller's interest in jerome corsi and roger stone, people who had contacts with wikileaks is whether there was anyone who was directly affiliated with the trump campaign or may have informed the trump campaign in advance that wikileaks was going to public these e-mails. >> we have seen a change in how the white house describes all of this. we saw sarah sanders yesterday say there was no wrong doing on the part of the president. >> a modest shoplift in tone. everybody stick around. will the president meet with slad plvladimimir putin this we? >>> new developments unfolding in mos

aka, wikileaks, julian assange.he body of the message read: "get to julian assange at the ecuadorian embassy and get then pending wikileaks e-mails. they deal with foundation, allegedly." okay, so you heard assange, remember the d.n.c. leak before the convention, may have had more information. in this case, on the clinton foundation. and they want to know what he anhas. rogerr clearly didn't know exactly what the e-mails contained in any way. in no way did he urge anyone to steal or hack the clinton campaign or john podesta's e-mails. no evidence of that. now jerome corsi flatly denies ever having contact with julian assange. in fact, he voluntarily handed over his computer and cell phone, access to e-mail and social media accounts in order to cooperate fully with a special counsel's investigation. that is how investigation inved access to the emails we just showed s you. now they are trying to get him to testalie, say what we want and we'll go easy on you.ha if not, he is 72 and he may spend the rest of his life in

connection is because wikileaks dumped a bunch of hacked e-mails it was fatalkg about wikileaks. how does it all fit together and what does special council do if he can't actually connect the dots here? >> there were a lot of tweets that were premonition coming up. you see there are these efforts behind the scenes to figure out information. particularly saying telling murray he created this document, this -- to explain this e-mail after the fact because roger stone, you know, kind of went out there. it was based on corsi's research. it shows there is a bit of a cover up, not necessarily legal but one they having to get their story straight about the timing here. there are still a lot of missing links here. we don't see the connection from corsi to wikileaks yet. there are still gaps but it doesn't mean he hasn't filled in it either. >> corsi, his line is well, this was just a prediction i had that wikileaks was going to do that. stone was like he didn't tell me about that. so there is they are getting their stories kind of mixed up. >> they clearly don't believe what corsi is say

did stone tell the president about his contacts with wikileaks? did anyone in the campaign who stone spoke to talk to the president about it? what did the president know? that is even a question that mueller has for the president. when we learned the various questions mueller wants to ask the president, this is part of it, how much of that information actually got back to him. these are collusion questions. the thing about the buckets is many of the president's problems are in the obstruction bucket, things he has done since he came to office, his interactions with the justice department, his treatment of jim comey, his treatment of his attorney general jeff sessions. this is much more in the collusion area where there are fewer questions about the president. >> mike schmidt, the creator as far as we know of the bucket theory of the mueller investigation and the co-author of today's piece of work by "the new york times." the. mike, thanks for staying up with us. we know it's been a long day. thank you for being on the broadcast again. let's go to

stone is the potential intermediary between wikileaks which got these hacked e-mails from the russians to the trump campaign. these -- these e-mails suggest there were certainly conversations going on about that wikileaks effort. it's suggestive but it's not proof of a crime yet, i don't think. >> sara, from roger stone gets into trouble does that implicate the trump campaign because almost every other day the president says no collusion, no collusion, no collusion. >> it really depends on what he gets in trouble for. we don't know the extent of the conversation that roger stone may have had. he denied over and over in again he shared any information with donald trump, the candidate, but reality is these two are talking directly, and nobody is really monitoring their communications at the time. i mean i think it's possible where no one else in donald trump's inner circle is caught up in this. it could just be something that roger stone gets in trouble for and then you end up with this lasting perception that the president, you know, decided to surround himself over the course of his li

was there coordination between wikileaks and the 2016 campaign. and as you see mueller circling stone, they're going to be the fulcrum that connects wikileaks to the campaign. >> which is huge. in the legal world you use the word proffer. let me ask it this way. if he is in plea negotiation, does it mean he's giving up the goods or is willing to give up the goods if he gets a good deal. >> mueller wouldn't sign him up as a cooperator unless he knows what the guy has. you sit down with the guy, you proffer them and get all the information and you then decide is he believable, will he cooperate and then you decide and sign them up. i've used cooperators who have committed murders. that's not as hard as corsi who is literally a conspiracy theorist. if mueller does sign him up as a cooperator, corsi or mueller has hard evidence to back up whatever corsi tells him. >> alex alluded to it a second ago, but we got a statement from roger stone reacting to all of this. do you think he's thinking, uh-oh, pressure's on? >> textbook one on one, who thinks some

wikileaks, i love wikileaks. this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. another one came in today. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. getting off the plane they were just announcing new wikileaks that i wanted to stay there but i didn't want to keep you waiting. i love reading those wikileaks. >> the president had nothing to say about wikileaks today nor about the specifics of the case against paul manafort. something appears to be weighing on him. this morning he went online and said the phony witch hunt continues but mueller and his gang of angry dems are only looking at one side and not the other. wait until it comes out how horribly and viciously they are treating people. ruping lives for them refusing to lie. mueller is a conflicted prosecutor gone rogue. a few minutes later tweeted this. the fake news media builds bob mueller up as a saint when he is the exact opposite, he's doing tremendous damage to our criminal justice system where he is only looking at one side and not the other. heroes will come of this and it won't be mueller and his angry gang of democrats. look

wikileaks. i love wikileaks. >> i love reading those wikileak wikilea wikileaks. the wonder of wikileaks. boy, wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. wikileaks. that came out on wikileaks. it's unbelievable. it tells you the inner heart, you have to read it. >> that was all prior to the election in 2016. that was mostly october of 2016. so, they're trying to figure. i mean, it seems funny to watch it. but what they're trying to find out and, danny, tell me if it's relevant or not. the president talked about wikileaks and said we were going to get surprises and have information and he knew things about wikileaks that you and i might not know about wikileaks. >> he sits down with federal investigators and supposedly they ask him, how did you know about this wikileaks data dump? he says, for example, hypothetically, to avoid getting in trouble. oh, i think i read it on the internet somewhere. but that may work at a cocktail party. but federal investigators follow up with additional questions if they don't like the direction that they think a witness is going in. you ca

boy, they have -- wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. wikileaks. wikileaks. another one came in today. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> i love reading those wikileaks. that came out of wikileaks. >> well, with that let's bring in our leadoff panel on a friday night. the aforementioned josh gerstein senior legal affairs contributor at politico. former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor and daniel goldman, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york and fellow at the brennan center for justice at nyu school of law. joyce, do you take the president at scout's honor that this is all his work. that he hasn't handed it in yet? >> i think it's unlike they the president answered the questions. i suspect particularly coming off the sugar high that he had from the pre-midterm election campaign ral hes that he was sitting down seriously thoughtfully answers these questions was something he didn't want to do. he has adopted these answers as his own. he is on the record saying these are his words and th

julian assange and wikileaks. up to the 2016 elections and possible russian interference. as you know, this all came to light due to unrelated, it seems, court filing in august and only unsealed last week. it actually took a professor from george washington university who loves to look through the court filings to reveal what was going on and reporters started picking up on it. there was an additional issue with the assange case. the spokesperson for the eastern district of virginia said they would not comment further. we are seeing reports of charges made against julian assange. we don't know what those may be, but you have to keep in mind that u.s. authorities have been looking at assange since 2010 for the leaks of the confidential leaks of the cables and the things that wikileaks has done since. julian assange has been hiding in the ecuador embassy in london since 2012. he has been claiming asylum. until then, they were supportive of him. in the last few months, we have seen the shift. the ecuadorian president

that's "hardball" for now. >>> tonight on "all in". >> wikileaks, i love wikileaks. >> new reportingt paul manafort met secretly with julian assange. >> if that's what he said, that's obviously what the opposition is. >> as robert mueller appears to enter a final phase. >> obviously we don't know who's behind the leaks. >> tonight the new thinking about what the special counsel is planning, new incriminating e-mails from jerome corsi and roger stone and

>> wikileaks, we love wikileaks. >> this wikileaks is unbelievable.t we've learned about her and her people. >> did you see another one, another one came in today, this wi wikileaks is like a treasure-trove. >> it does make you wonder as i relive those moments about whether that opens the president, the government to more scrutiny in the way they handle this? >> yeah, what's really remarkable about those statements, chris, is that while he was making them, it was widely known and believed that wikileaks was essentially working arm in glove with the russians, with russian intelligence. it was not really a transparency organization or a journalistic organization. and mike pompeo, president trump's cia director essentially called wikileaks a hostile nonstate intelligence service. that's been the view of the u.s. government for some time. in terms of how this fits into the mueller investigation, i think we shouldn't be surprised if assange is charged that he tries to cut some kind of deal with robert mueller to talk about what he knows. this doesn't seem

in them, stone pushes corsi to get in touch with wikileaks' founder julian assange. document dumps in the works that will damage hillary clinton. political correspondent sara murray has more. >> reporter: good morning. jerome corsi's legal troubles could be giving a glimpse into special counsel robert mueller's potential collusion case. corsi, an associate of roger stone, shared a pile of draft documents with cnn that allegedly show stone pushing corsi to try to obtain documents from wikileaks that could be helpful to the trump campaign. this was in the summer of 2016. the documents included draft court filing that provides insight into what mueller may know about stone's efforts to obtain information from wikileaks in 2016. corsi said that summer wasn't the only time that stone told him to go wikileaks and try to get the goods. he claims he spoke to stone on october 7th in the hours before the now-infamous "access hollywood" tape became public. stone wanted him to try to mitigate the fallout with some help from wikileaks. >> we get to october 7 which was a very, ver

two, wikileaks. remember, big picture, we all knew paul manafort had long and extensive links to the russian government-affiliated oligarchs. what is new is this reported meeting with that other group you don't want to have contact with, wikileaks, specifically, its leader julian assange. this meeting manafort took a bit after he first began trying to get a job with the trump campaign in february 2016. there was that memo offering to work for free. tonight for the first time we now see the report that he met with assange that next month, march, and it was in that month that trump took manafort up on the offer, hiring him to work at the republican convention. manafort hadn't done that kind of work in years. he had a reputation with controversial dealings, authoritarian business. but none of that held him back within the trump campaign. by may, he was campaign chair. one month before the infamous trump tower meeting where all those people met with the russians in an effort to get dirt on hillary clinto

we know several people from the trump orbit were in contact with wikileaks and we know wikileaks was from clinton. >> and pompeo said it's time to call out wikileaks for what it is. >> we will soon see if mueller agrees. that's your "real sity check." >> essentially stone's defense is, you know, he was not telling the truth, he was showing and fronting and that's always an x factor when you are dealing with roger stone. >> if your best defense is i make things up, and that may not be a good defense. but we will see very, very soon. >>> a democratic victory in the house and now conservative lawyers banning together to say the president is going too far. one man in the middle of it all, next. so simple, so good. get the recipes at walnuts.org. man: one, two, here we go! ♪ alive, i'm alive, i'm alive ♪ ♪ i'm alive, i'm alive, i'm alive ♪ ♪ this is what it sounds like ♪ wo-o-oh-ho, i'm alive ♪ ( ♪ ) alive! gives you more vitamins and minerals than leading brands. because when you start with more, you own the morning. alive! new! garden goodness™ multi-vitamin has a full serving of veggie

i love wikileaks. all of that was happening contemporaneously. >> and nia-malika henderson brought up that dana bash was reporting that president trump wrote down he did not know about wikileaks and the trump tower meeting to the best of his recollection, but yet he tells us he doesn't have a good memory, but he's got a great memory. listen to this. >> i have one of the great memories of all-time. people know me for my memory. i have a good memory, like a great memory. >> to the best of my recollection, i am scratching my head, did i know about the trump tower meeting? >> how great are our colleagues? was that a great montage there. i just love our colleagues. that was fantastic. >> i am always willing to spread the cheer. >> nia? it does seem the president is covering his bases by saying to the best of his recollection -- >> yeah, right, he doesn't quite remember it. jeffrey is the lawyer on the panel and i suppose there is wiggle room if there's contradicting evidence that mueller could have here. i

you have stone communicating with wikileaks who -- and assange and wikileaks did not steal the e-mails. they may have gotten them from the russians or whomever, but they didn't steal them. where's the crime? >> well, we don't know exactly where the crime is yet. one possible crime is that if this is being done by people overseas to provide a benefit for the campaign, it would be, in essence, an illegal campaign contribution. it is also possible that there is some sort of possession of stolen property theory that the government could be working on. it is also possible that there are obstructive crimes. we've seen reporting that, you know, stone may have been in touch with credico and other people trying to influence what they would say to the prosecutors so you may have, unrelated to the collusion angle, you may have obstruction crimes as well, but it does seem that if there is a -- an instruction, so to speak, from the campaign about how to use these e-mails, you are benefitting from an illegal contribution of sorts to the campaign. >> carrie, stone repeatedly made public statements th

wikileaks was the middleman. the russians stole, hacked the e-mails, gave it to wikileaks, and wikileaks released those to the world. so, the idea of the senior trump official meeting with the wikileaks founder in the ecuadorian embassy comes to why did he go to and what was he told in that meeting? keep in mind, lots going on in the special counsel's investigation. you have intense interest in roger stone. why roger stone, a trump adviser, connection to the president here because he had and even claimed at times having knowledge of those releases. tweeting it's about to come out. and he since said it was me kind of yapping, but you connect the dots, and you know mueller has for more resources than we do and at the connecting the dots. what are the questions? the story was filed from quito, they quote being able to be shown the ecuadorian documents that get to some of is this. what are ecuador's motivations in this? is this information true? these are all still questions. and as always with these stories, i alway

the truth is that wikileaks was saying some of this stuff publically. so it is not clear whether roger indeed had any kind of in with wikileaks, jim. it is clear that he was trying to set himself up as someone that had that kind of access. roger stone nowadays says he was just bluffing. he was just full of it. that's the problem with whether or not mueller can bring charges on this. if you were to ask me is roger stone going to get indicted, i don't know. roger stone seems to think he will and certainly we know that once the -- once the midterms are passed, we know we're going to hear again from mueller. so we shall see. >> thanks very much. there were a lot of other times that roger stone claimed to have advanced knowledge. >> exactly. so what does mueller believe of what he said. jeff, what is so fascinating? i remember interviewing roger stone the day after the president, you know, basically cutoff working ties with him, right? that he remains the confidant of the president that basically fired him. i didn't know what to believe. he admits to this pu

wikileaks, i love wikileaks. this tells you the inner heart. you got to read it.ng off the plane, they were just announcing new wikileaks and i wanted to say there, but i didn't want to keep you waiting. >> manafort and wikileaks strongly deny the report. manafort saying in part the story is totally false. i've never met julgiassange or e working with him. "outfront" now, patrick healy and julia kian and also harry sandig. bottom line, if the reporting is true, and it is very strenuously denied, but if true, how big of a deal is it? >> it would be a very big deal because at some point the coincidences of the timing that you just talked about in the intro become too to just write-off as a coincidence. and if in fact wikileaks is taking steps trying to help the trump campaign, releasing only e-mails that would hurt the democrat's nominee hillary clinton, and you have meetings between manafort and the head of wikileaks, it certainly looks like a lot like a conspiracy. >> it certainly does. almost defy belief to think that if it all did happen, again, if, that he woul

wikileaks -- i love wikileaks! >> reporter: wikileaks denies that manafort ever met assange and assange's lawyers also deny the story. but any meeting between assange and manafort would likely of high interest to the special counsel and its collusion questions. and paul manafort, who is behind bars, he has just respond eed t that "guardian" report saying that he met with julian assange, saying, this story is totally false and deliberately liable louse. i have never met julian assange or anyone connected to him. i have never been contacted by anyone connected to wikileaks either directly or indirectly. i have never reached out to assange or wikileaks on any matter. and jake, manafort now saying he is considering all legal actions against "the guardian" newspaper. >> jessica schneider, thanks so much. today the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani told cnn that he is in contact with the defense team, saying that he was quote, aware that manafort was running into problems with the special counsel. cnn's pamela brown pick

wikileaks says it never collaborated with stone. stone diminished the importance of any phone records saying unless mueller has tape recordings of the phone calls, what would that prove? corsi and stone say they didn't have advance knowledge about the wikileaks e-mail revelations. all of this is still very much an open question for mueller, even if the president says it's a whole lot of nothing. i want to go right to the white house where kristen welker is standing by. you spoke to the president about those written answers. >> i talked to two sources familiar with the investigation, with the president's legal team, and they told me that the president answered the special counsel's questions to the best of his recollection. they say those questions were all about the russia investigation. just to recap those two key points, we're learning that president trump told the special counsel that he didn't know about that infamous trump tower meeting from 2016 between don jr. and the russian lawyer and roger stone never told him about the wi

they've got to start talking about wikileaks. >> the wonder of wikileaks. >> we love wikileaks. wikilea wikileaks. they have revealed a lot. >> wikileaks, wikileaks. another one came in today. this wikileaks is like a treasure trove. >> i love reading those wikileaks that that came out on wikilea wikileaks. >> let's bring in our leadoff panel, josh gerstein, senior legal fairs contributor at politico, former u.s. attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor and daniel gold man, fellow at the brannan center for justice at ny school of law. joyce, i'd like to begin with you. do you take the president at scout's honor that this is all his work, that he just hasn't handed it in yet? >> i think it's unlikely that the president answered the questions. i suspect that particularly coming off the sugar high that he had from the prehid term election campaign rallies that he was doing, sitting down to seriouslydo thoughtfully and methodically answer these questions was something that he didn't want to do. he might have drafted answers, but the important thing, brian, is

wic wikileaks was where it was made public. he also had been in contact with roger stone, who is a long-time political adviser to the president. and we know it is not entirely clear what other context may have existed between wikileaks and the trump campaign. we don't, of course, know what personal charges look like at this moment. but it is very clear that prosecutors are moving closer to perhaps charging assange once and for all. >> what does it say to you that the obama administration, which did bring an unprecedented number of leak cases against individuals did not prosecute or go after julian assange. >> it's been a mystery. >> but a change in tone from this administration. mike pompeo last year called wikileaks a hostile intelligence service. significant change here. >> yeah. it's been a mystery because, in effect, assange caused more damage to the democrats by getting hillary's e-mails and putting them all out there. the democrats out to be the ones outraged. yet, it is the republicans. and i don't know. i think there is

>>> are charges on the way for wikileaks founder julian assange? >>> and democrats looking for gains and left with little reason for hope. >>> astonishing 631 people are unaccounted for in the deadly camp fire in california. >>> parts of the northeast crippled by the first major snow of the season. that commute was epic last night. expect a messy friday morning, too. my husband, it took him three and a half hours to get home. he was very unhappy. we knew this storm was coming. >> he needed a bourbon. >>> welcome to "early start." i'm christine romans. >> i'm dave briggs. it is friday, november 16th. for the tenth day we are waking up wondering when the midterms end. >>> we will get to that shortly and we start with references to wikileaks founder over court filings which he may be criminally charged. it could have significant implications for the mueller investigation. assange leaked government secrets on the wars on iraq and afghanistan. federal prosecutors referenced assange by accident in a filing last week while arguing to keep an unrelated cas

corsi denies that he has any ties to or sources inside wikileaks. roger stone also responded to this news of the plea deal on the radio this afternoon, and denied also that corsi told him that the podesta e-mails would be stolen and then published. >> i'm unaware of any plea bargaining. i have no idea what this is about. other than to say that the assertion that jerry corsi knew in advance that john podesta's e-mails had been obtained and would be published would be news to me. this idea that jerry corsi could implicate me is simply no evidence whatsoever. >> and stone also said today that corsi is under what he called a tremendous amount of pressure and he is being asked over and over to say things that he does not believe occurred. jim? >> and alex, how problematic could this be for president trump? people might say that well, jerome corsi -- sounds like a small fish in all of this. but this could be problematic. >> could be very problematic. if corsi admits he worked with wikileaks and coordinated with them on those e-mails and gave that informat

it doesn't seem too far to see now that we have wikileaks and roger stone together and wikileaks distributed the stolen e-mails that they are part of an alleged conspiracy. >> thank you very much. we're waiting on anymore news to come out of special counsel's office. thank you and happy friday. >>> still ahead, the desperate search for more than 600 people as multiple wildfires still rage across california. >>> there's a growing insurgence to derail nancy pelosi's bid for the speakership. a meeting with one of the democrats who could challenge her. >>> is it time for someone at the top of facebook to go? i know that every single time that i suit up, there is a chance that's the last time. 300 miles per hour, that's where i feel normal. i might be crazy but i'm not stupid. having an annuity tells me retirement is protected. annuities can provide protected income for life. learn more at retireyourrisk.org annuities can provide protected income for life. and then, more jobs robegan to appear.. what started with one job spread all around. because each job in energy creates many more in this town

stone's admission detailing efforts to pitch himself as a wikileaks insider.re from sara murray in washington. >> reporter: christine and dave, e-mails show stone was in touch with a senior member of the trump presidential campaign about wikileaks. roger stone decided to release the e-mails for the cullal arti "the daily caller." one writes to roger stone saying what was that this morning? what he was referring to was julian assange was to hold the press conference and a big october surprise. many supporters thought it would be a bombshell about hillary clinton. that is not what happened. assange released no new information. now when roger stone's e-mail rep reply, he said there were security concerns that assange has. he said a load every week going forward. this is another one of those cases where roger stone seems to predict what wikileaks is about to do. that drawn the issue to investigators. stone said he was just repeating things assange said publicly. assange said there would be more information he would release. a few days later, he did. this really ge

great detail alleged attempts by roger stone to get his hands on stolen democratic e-mails that wikileaks came from russian hackers. stone is a long-time confidant of the president and adviser to his campaign. >> separately, we have learned that while the former chairman of the campaign was supposedly cooperating with but allegedly lying to the special counsel, his lawyer was in touch with the president's lawyers. that is not itself a crime, but it did not make the special counsel robert mueller happy. we are in washington. so, alealex, help us understandw a defended briefing, another person involved in the investigation, that is the president himself, how is that acceptable? >> right, jim. as you know, it is not a crime. it is legal. it is not customary. particularly since paul manafort has struck a deal with the special counsel's office. so this has certainly annoyed the special counsel's office. the president's lawyer, rudy giuliani has confirmed to our colleague dana bash that the two sides are in touch, that paul manafort's lawyer has been in touch with the president's legal team as