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wikileaks. i love wikileaks. then we go back to 2017 when mike pompeo was director of the central intelligence agency. >> like a hostile intelligence service. encouraged his followers to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. it directed chelsea manning and her theft of specific secret information, overwhelmingly focuses on the united states while seeking support from any democratic countries and organizations. it is time to call at wikileaks for what it really is, a nonstate hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like russia. amy: julian assange later responded in an interview with jeremy scahill. >> stated wikileaks instructed chelsea manning to go after certain information. interesting revelation. then there is his statements that this wikileaks and its publications end now. how does he propose to conduct this ending? he did not say. but the cia is only in the business of collecting information, connecting people, and assassinating people. so it is quite a menacing statement
wikileaks. i love wikileaks. then we go back to 2017 when mike pompeo was director of the central intelligence agency. >> like a hostile intelligence service. encouraged his followers to find jobs at the cia in order to obtain intelligence. it directed chelsea manning and her theft of specific secret information, overwhelmingly focuses on the united states while seeking support from any democratic countries and organizations. it is time to call at wikileaks for what it really is, a...
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it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is.ntelligence service often abetted by state actors like russia. >> that was mike pompeo in his very first speech as cia director in 2017. yahoo! news is shining light on a campaign directed against wikileaks and its founder julian assange. when assange was in the ecuador embassy in london, there was discussion in the cia about kidnapping or killing assange, according to three former officials. these discussions sparked a heated debate among trump administration officials over the legality and practicality of such an operation. yahoo! news' investigation is based on conversations with more than 30 former u.s. officials. the cia declined to comment to yahoo! and pompeo did not respond to their requests for comment. the cia declined to comment to nbc news. we are also reaching out to mike pompeo. joining me now is a co-author of that report, michael isikoff, chief investigative correspondent for yahoo! news. this is a big one, michael, as i welcome you. let's talk about julian assange, who
it's time to call out wikileaks for what it really is.ntelligence service often abetted by state actors like russia. >> that was mike pompeo in his very first speech as cia director in 2017. yahoo! news is shining light on a campaign directed against wikileaks and its founder julian assange. when assange was in the ecuador embassy in london, there was discussion in the cia about kidnapping or killing assange, according to three former officials. these discussions sparked a heated debate...
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like many in — wikileaks was doing? good question. like many in the _ wikileaks was doing?. like many in the press, i was at i like many in the press, i was at that talk that he gave that you displayed a clip from and like many, i assume that mike pompeo, the reference to a non—state hostile intelligence service was kind of a rhetorical talking point that either your speech writers came up with. in fact, is quite significant in the cia because by branding wikileaks as a hostile intelligence service, it opened the door for the cia to plan all sorts of aggressive measures to dismantle wikileaks about getting a presidential finding and without having to brief capitol hill. the intelligence committees and so what we report is that there were some extreme measures that the cia was cooking up in response to this designation which a snatch operation and from the ecuadorian embassy and there other plants contemplated like monitoring the communications of travel of wikileaks associates, sowing discord among its ranks, stealing its computers and even talk of assassinating him. as we
like many in — wikileaks was doing? good question. like many in the _ wikileaks was doing?. like many in the press, i was at i like many in the press, i was at that talk that he gave that you displayed a clip from and like many, i assume that mike pompeo, the reference to a non—state hostile intelligence service was kind of a rhetorical talking point that either your speech writers came up with. in fact, is quite significant in the cia because by branding wikileaks as a hostile intelligence...
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basically launch this all out war on wikileaks.ic phase, in april of 2017, when pompeo gave his first top a cia director at a washington saying tank, and he referred to wikileaks as a hostile non state intelligence service. at the time, a lot of us thought that it was sort of a grab the talking point, click bait line that pompeo was using. it actually had significance inside the cia. because by designated we can links as a hostile intelligence service it opened the door for the cia to do all sorts of stuff. offensive counter intelligence activities that would've otherwise required either a president show fighting or congressional oversight. but freed of that with this designation they drew up some pretty drastic over stream plans. >> again i encourage everyone to read the report, but you bring up an interesting point about that designation, because when we talk about wikileaks. it always leads to the issue of freedom of the press. and today the freedom of the press foundation released this statement. saying >> the cia is a disgrace
basically launch this all out war on wikileaks.ic phase, in april of 2017, when pompeo gave his first top a cia director at a washington saying tank, and he referred to wikileaks as a hostile non state intelligence service. at the time, a lot of us thought that it was sort of a grab the talking point, click bait line that pompeo was using. it actually had significance inside the cia. because by designated we can links as a hostile intelligence service it opened the door for the cia to do all...
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news on an alleged cia plot to kidnap wikileaks founder julian assange. we'll speak to one of the journalists behind this explosive new reporting. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >>> all right. so by now you have probably heard it a dozen times. this week on capitol hill will be a make or break test for president biden's agenda. congress is working to pass a $3.5 trillion reconciliation package and a $1 trillion infrastructure bill, all while trying to avoid a government shutdown and a debt crisis. and just in the last few hours the timeline on that agenda has actually gotten a little bit clearer. now, in a new letter to colleagues released tonight, speaker pelosi announced a vote on the bipartisan infrastructure bill is now slated for thursday. debate on that is set to begin tomorrow morning. in a letter on friday, though, speaker nancy pelosi described the next few times as a time of great intensity. here is what pelosi had to say this morning about that bipartisan infrastructure bill which was originally scheduled to be voted on before. >> are
news on an alleged cia plot to kidnap wikileaks founder julian assange. we'll speak to one of the journalists behind this explosive new reporting. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >>> all right. so by now you have probably heard it a dozen times. this week on capitol hill will be a make or break test for president biden's agenda. congress is working to pass a $3.5 trillion reconciliation package and a $1 trillion infrastructure bill, all while trying to avoid a government...
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now, the attempts to prosecute wikileaks have lasted over 5 years. the procedure in the united states is that before someone can be prosecuted for a serious crime, the constitution, the constitution requires an indictment by a grand jury. welcome to the federal grand jury service. you are here today because you've been asked to take part in our democratic process by serving as a member of a federal grand jury. it's a job of great importance, grounded in the constitution that guarantees our freedoms. the drafters of the constitution knew that deciding whether or not to accuse someone of a crime is an enormous power. so they created the grand jury. but the problem is that the grand jury, it happens in secret. the grand jury can compel testimony. they can issue search warrants, they can use the patriot act to conduct surveillance. so when the prosecutors prosecute, they decide, i mean, they look at the map and they decide where to bring the case. so they decided to bring the case in the eastern district in virginia. now, whereas the eastern district of
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it was monitoring the communications and the travel of wikileaks associates.it was doing a lot of aggressive things to try to dismantle and cripple wikileaks. >> really fascinating. cnn has not verified or talked to these sources yahoo reports. isikoff stresses the idea of kidnapping and killing assange was not ultimately approved. the latest on assange is he's being held in a prison in london. the u.s. is currently requesting he be extradited on charges of helping former u.s. army analyst chelsea manning steal and release classified documents. >>> just in to cnn, the biden administration is take ing new steps to preserve daca. the decision put the fate of some 600,000 dreamers in jeopardy and president biden is trying to change that. priscilla alvarez is live in washington with the new reporting. what have you learned? >> reporter: kate, the department of homeland security this morning announced a proposed rule to preserve daca. this is a program that has lived through a dhs memo and has come under scrutiny for that reason. recall the deferred action for chil
it was monitoring the communications and the travel of wikileaks associates.it was doing a lot of aggressive things to try to dismantle and cripple wikileaks. >> really fascinating. cnn has not verified or talked to these sources yahoo reports. isikoff stresses the idea of kidnapping and killing assange was not ultimately approved. the latest on assange is he's being held in a prison in london. the u.s. is currently requesting he be extradited on charges of helping former u.s. army...
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over the ledge plots against the songs the press. freedom organization said the report show the wikileaks found, as life is still in danger, that he should be released from prison presented safety. meanwhile, current wikileaks, editor in chief, tristan her office, and discuss the case in the latest episode of going underground. he can watch that in full throughout the day here on our international menu. so stunning revelation is quite shocking to see that this was being conquered in the, in the, in the state. so kids, nothing, and then possibly killing. we had to wind up some of this before through the proceedings in that spain criminal proceedings against members of the security company. you see global who are supposed to be overseeing julian science. it's curity in the u. s. embassy and the embassy, but actually we're bribe try to ca, to spying on. julian, provide it in light feeds from the cameras inside the embassy and through the devices that they implanted on top of that, of course, they were stealing legally payable its material. if julian is expedited to to the states, it will be
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barbara ward of a $100000.00 offered by wikileaks. now, just to be clear, no such reward was ever paid according to ricki lake itself. but why does the bbc remember this? this serious is the result of sorrow journalism and needs to be b. c's editorial standards. a number of your points are based on inaccurate interpretations of the contents of the serious and we would suggest listening again for clarification. as appropriate. we approached individuals where allegations were raced. invite exam, as well as others to respond to what is reported in the program. was sent by the investigation and now we're journalism. yes, it was a b, c. talking about the same documentary off the journalists are and must a sensible casa. his question about how the documentary series failed to mention reports i found to be received on this ryan de lassie that the attack may have been staged. and how it was to down the damning verdict by former p. c. w inspector jose, but stoney, as merely having an axe to grind with the americans. however, they were either r
barbara ward of a $100000.00 offered by wikileaks. now, just to be clear, no such reward was ever paid according to ricki lake itself. but why does the bbc remember this? this serious is the result of sorrow journalism and needs to be b. c's editorial standards. a number of your points are based on inaccurate interpretations of the contents of the serious and we would suggest listening again for clarification. as appropriate. we approached individuals where allegations were raced. invite exam,...
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the editor in chief of wikileaks. welcome the apology from the bbc, adding, he hopes other media outlets will follow. shad had his dash, he has more unraveling. what really happened takes us to the heart of the global race and to control the narrative of the war. this was the opening of a, b, b, c radio for documentary. and as we know, the pbc predicate itself on anything box, fake news, this holes you can rely on the go to platform for truth and the broadcast the valve to leave no stone left on turn over the ledge. 2018 chemical talk in syria. but i run it clean now 10 months off to the publishing of this so called truce the b b. c . admit, so that contains some serious inaccuracies. the see you found that although they were limited to one aspect of an investigation into a complex and hotly contested subject, these points represented a failure to meet the standard of accuracy appropriate to a program of this kind. and this program as so called account of a former inspector from the organization for the position of ch
the editor in chief of wikileaks. welcome the apology from the bbc, adding, he hopes other media outlets will follow. shad had his dash, he has more unraveling. what really happened takes us to the heart of the global race and to control the narrative of the war. this was the opening of a, b, b, c radio for documentary. and as we know, the pbc predicate itself on anything box, fake news, this holes you can rely on the go to platform for truth and the broadcast the valve to leave no stone left...
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there might be a couple of use of wikileaks of julia, his his hero view, who's got the dangerous trouble, make a view. i'll come all the news caught up on the internet. whereas the truth and all of this in this official document, both parties stayed the facts before the british supreme court during a visit to sweden, some sexual intercourse with 2 women, the women talk to each other and go to the police. but wanted to come to undergo a medical exam to rule out sexually transmitted diseases. a preliminary investigation is opened, both women are questioned. the chief prosecutor and stuck on concludes that there are no signs of rape. ready case closed a possibility man out modification has yet to be clarified. phone momentarily stays in sweden and answers every question during a police interrogation. ready but high a prosecutor, money on a new decide to reopen the preliminary investigation of the great news. astonished office to be questioned by mariani. ready the prosecutor in the end, she grounds are found permission to leave suite and he has a lot to do. julian, a spanish can claim his g
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news on an alleged cia plot to kidnap wikileaks founder julian assange.ts behind this explosive new reporting. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >>> all right.
news on an alleged cia plot to kidnap wikileaks founder julian assange.ts behind this explosive new reporting. i'm ayman mohyeldin. let's get started. >>> all right.
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k. prison for his own safety. meanwhile, wikileaks editor in chief christian tramps, and discuss the case in our program going on the ground. you can watch a full episode just a bit later in the day. many stunning revelation is quite shocking to see that this was being conquered in the, in the, in the state kits. nothing possibly killing. we had to wind up some of this before through the proceedings in spain, criminal proceedings against members of the security company, you see global, who are supposed to be overseeing julian science. it's the curity in the u. s. embassy, and the embassy. but actually, we're bribe try to ca, to spying on. julian, provide it in life feeds from the cameras inside the embassy and 2 devices that they implanted on top of that. of course, they were stealing legally privileged material. and do you think this article will help to make the case even more clearer that julius on should be freed at the end of october at his hearing immediately. given that the whole process is being that it's about. it should have a bearing and normal circumstance. and so there a
k. prison for his own safety. meanwhile, wikileaks editor in chief christian tramps, and discuss the case in our program going on the ground. you can watch a full episode just a bit later in the day. many stunning revelation is quite shocking to see that this was being conquered in the, in the, in the state kits. nothing possibly killing. we had to wind up some of this before through the proceedings in spain, criminal proceedings against members of the security company, you see global, who are...
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the yahoo article is testimony from key witnesses on the ca heads fury. wikileaks so called vote 7 disclosures on the us intelligence agencies, activities. pompeo and other top agency leaders were completely detached from reality because they were so embarrassed about vote 7 said a former trump national security official. they was seeing blood while it goes all the way back to 2017. when assange was 5 years into his stay at the dory and embassy in london, and that was also when wiki leeks began publishing its volt 7 documents, a series of document leaks, exposing the methods and tools that they use in terms of computer hacking. now, the agency considers this its largest data loss in ca, history, and according to the sources that yahoo new spoke with. they claim that the then head of the cia might, palm pale, was basically out for revenge. i mean, it talks about how the cia and british tell intelligence believes that russian agents had come come up with a plan to rescue julian songs and bring him to moscow. and it also talks about how these western intelligence agencies were ready for shoot out
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the syrian government was motivated by appeal from wikileaks. the whistle blowing website was in fact offering a cash incentive for information on do not the time, but said no such reward. in fact was ever paid the editor in chief of wiki leeks, welcome the apology from the b b c. building that he hopes other media outlets will follow suit. shutting edwards dusty has more on the case unraveling what really happened that takes us to the heart of the global race and to control the narrative of the war. this was the opening of a, b, b, c radio for documentary. and as we know, the pbc predicates itself on anything but the fake news the sold. you can rely on the go to platform for truth and the broadcast the val to leave no stone left on turn over the ledge. 2018 chemical talk in syria, but i run it clean now 10 months off to the publishing of this so cool. truce, the bbc admit, so that contains some serious inaccuracies. the see you found that although they were limited to one aspect of an investigation into a complex and hotly contested subject, th
the syrian government was motivated by appeal from wikileaks. the whistle blowing website was in fact offering a cash incentive for information on do not the time, but said no such reward. in fact was ever paid the editor in chief of wiki leeks, welcome the apology from the b b c. building that he hopes other media outlets will follow suit. shutting edwards dusty has more on the case unraveling what really happened that takes us to the heart of the global race and to control the narrative of...
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the editor in chief of wikileaks, welcome to the apology from the b b. c. i think that he hopes other media outlets will follow suit. shante edwards dash the huffman one, the case unraveling. what really happened? that takes us to the heart of the global race and to control the narrative of the war. this is the opening of a, b, b, c radio for documentary. and as we know, the bbc predicate itself on anything box, fake news. this all you can rely on the go to the top from the truth and the broadcast, the vows to leave no stone left on turn over the ledge. 2018 chemical talk in syria, but i run it clean now 10 months also the publishing of this so called truce the b b c. admit. so that contains some serious inaccuracy. these points represented a failure to meet the standard of accuracy appropriate to a program of this kind. but why does the baby say, remember this? this serious is the result of sorrow journalism and needs to be b. c's editorial standards was sent by the investigation and our journalism. yes, it was a b c. talking about the same documentary and
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against julian a sons, but says that whatever happened, he's not sorry, although the current of wikileaks boss says the revelation shows a sanchez life would be in danger. if he was sent to america, fate was ground would be in the hands of those who were planning to finally, france rejects what it calls in decent claims from molly, that it's a band in the country by withdrawing troops. while the african nation turns to russian contractors to help the fight against tara, ah, well, we're just getting warmed up here at the international and already an action packed program for you today. welcome to it. i'm ro receive a us marine at known for his outspoken criticism of the us, pull out from a gun. s. dawn has been sent to a military prison. stewart shallow lieutenant colonel of the us marines was relieved of his command after a series of videos on line, flagging multiple failures and the gun draw down and branding at a humiliation for the us. shallow says he couldn't stay silent after serving in the military for 17 years and losing colleagues in the recent cobble airport, suicide bombing. peo
against julian a sons, but says that whatever happened, he's not sorry, although the current of wikileaks boss says the revelation shows a sanchez life would be in danger. if he was sent to america, fate was ground would be in the hands of those who were planning to finally, france rejects what it calls in decent claims from molly, that it's a band in the country by withdrawing troops. while the african nation turns to russian contractors to help the fight against tara, ah, well, we're just...
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so there is really a crisis to put to play masses, was the wikileaks publishing group have released the number of documents exposing american conduct towards france during the 2012 elections in france. and thoughts of these documents show an intention on the part of the cia to conduct infiltration of some of the political parties taking plot. now again, all of this comes against the backdrop of those ties between america and some of its closest allies, already strained between the manner and the chaos in the manner in which may so lead by the u. s. history from afghanistan already many french and other continental european powers, calling for europe to go its own way when it comes to military affairs. and these types of developments with a seemingly the anglo phone world sticking together will do nothing to make those ties any stronger that you news for now, daniel hawkins has your next update in half an hour. ah .
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the press freedom organizations said the reports show, the wikileaks found that life is still in danger, and he should be released from a u. k. prison for his own safety. meanwhile, week leagues editor in chief christian thompson discussed the case in our program going on the ground. you can watch that in full of it later in the day. many stunning revelation is quite shocking to see that this was being in the, in the, in the state kits. nothing possibly killing. we had to wind up some of this before through the proceedings in spain, criminal proceedings against members of the security company. you see global who are supposed to be overseeing julian associates curity in the u. s. embassy, and the embassy actually will bribe try to ca, to spying on. julian provide it in light feeds from the cameras inside the embassy and through the devices that they implanted on top of that, of course, they were stealing legally prevalence material. if julian is expedited to to the states, it will be in the hands of fate. on the ground would be in the hands of those who were planning to kill him. when th
the press freedom organizations said the reports show, the wikileaks found that life is still in danger, and he should be released from a u. k. prison for his own safety. meanwhile, week leagues editor in chief christian thompson discussed the case in our program going on the ground. you can watch that in full of it later in the day. many stunning revelation is quite shocking to see that this was being in the, in the, in the state kits. nothing possibly killing. we had to wind up some of this...
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then later indicted and now here trump is reverting to his earlier sympathy for julian assange and wikileaks no doubt remembering all the help they gave him in the 2016 election. >> you said it, this is jason bourne stuff. everyone should read this article right now. it is deeply fascinating. michael isikoff, thank you very much. >> sure enough, thank you. >>> and "new day" continues right now. >> i'm brianna keilar alongside john berman on this "new day." the active threat to america's democracy intensifying this morning underscored by a big confession from the former president, donald trump, and the massive manhunt for brian laundrie enters its third week as the fbi searched his home, collecting personal items and anything they could find for possible dna testing. >>> the week from hell as congress heads into tumultuous full days, deadlines and chaotic negotiations, what this means for you and what it means for the biden agenda as it hangs in the balance. >>> a former dsa official who once led the intelligence branch is speaking out fort first time, the intelligence he says was covered up
then later indicted and now here trump is reverting to his earlier sympathy for julian assange and wikileaks no doubt remembering all the help they gave him in the 2016 election. >> you said it, this is jason bourne stuff. everyone should read this article right now. it is deeply fascinating. michael isikoff, thank you very much. >> sure enough, thank you. >>> and "new day" continues right now. >> i'm brianna keilar alongside john berman on this "new...
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the hacking group anonymous, which has supported wikileaks in the past announced they stole tons of datand racist groups such as the proud boys and others. joining us, cnn's brand-new cybersecurity reporter sean lingas with his first appearance ever on cnn. so how big was this hack and who out there should be worried about the information getting out? >> it was big, jake. it was 150, at least 150 gigabytes, which is pretty much all of epic's customers. so it was -- they really spared no one in taking the data. in terms of who should be worried, it's not just epic's kft mores which include far right extremist groups but ordinary people who had their data swept up in this breach. epic also collected public information on the internet, email addresses from normal people, and that, too, was breached. some of these people are also demanding answers. >> and these far right groups were already, i would guess, fairly paranoid about the government surveillance after these -- those platforms helped facilitate the deadly violent insurrection on january 6th by allowing the communication. are there d
the hacking group anonymous, which has supported wikileaks in the past announced they stole tons of datand racist groups such as the proud boys and others. joining us, cnn's brand-new cybersecurity reporter sean lingas with his first appearance ever on cnn. so how big was this hack and who out there should be worried about the information getting out? >> it was big, jake. it was 150, at least 150 gigabytes, which is pretty much all of epic's customers. so it was -- they really spared no...