james carafano, author of wikiworld at war.ood to have you. >> good to be with you. >> dianne feinstein since 2007 has been trying tighten up this visa waiver program. and potato 9/11 ha post 9/11 har place to get into to be a tourist in and it benefits us economically to open things up. where do you stand on what she's trying to do? >> she's wrong. there are no security gaps in the visa waiver program. the difference between the visa waiver program and getting a regular visa is we have better relationships with countries that participate in the program, so we share a lot more information. we actually know a lot more about a traveler and risks from visa waiver countries than from countries we just don't get visas. nothing gets bypassed, and -- >> hold on a second, an interview gets bypassed and some say there's nothing better than an interview. >> they're wrong. the exact same thing you provide in a veet sees a, then you get d in for an interview and what that actually does is improves an interview. you are interviewing high ri