conservation history but i like the wilderness more than conservation, but i did the wilderness warrior on theodore roosevelt, and then the quiet world, on saving lack wilderness, and now i'm writing forester in chief, franklin roosevelt, the ccc, and wild america. i'm looking how fdr and gifford-pinchot got two billion trees planted through the youth car in the 1930s. so i'm waiting of the death bowl. everglades. >> we were indicating before this interview, you were telling me you spent seven hours with neil armstrong. >> guest: i did. i grew up in ohio, and i don't have time to get the detail but i go to be do the official history for nasa right after 9/11, and he doesn't like talking, mr. armstrong, so i was able to burn some tapes with him, which i'm very proud of. rosenthal, an editor of news week, tune out about and it i wrote a little piece -- a long piece in "newsweek" about neil a remember strong, and my university rights, we celebrated the 15th anniversary of john f. kennedy challenging america to go to the moon on the campus i teach. and kennedy said we go to the moon because

this is shaybah, a desert wilderness where temperatures can reach 135 degrees. beneath these sand dunes lie 18 billion barrels of oil, more than four times the proven reserves of alaska. and it's costing billions and billions to tap into it. with all the talk about kicking our addiction to foreign oil, the kingdom of saudi arabia is doing everything it can to keep the oil age going. let me be blunt: is it your hope to prevent a switch away from oil? somebody said the country is the oil business. i mean, you absolutely need to do this for your own survival. >> and what's wrong with that? [ticking] >> when the u.s. oil companies came here in the '40s and '50s, the americans moved into the area with their families and developed it to suit their tastes and their way of life. they created a replica of american suburbia. today you could be in the outskirts of houston or los angeles. it's almost like it's an enclave within saudi arabia. it's--different from the rest of the country. >> yes, that's true, because-- >> very different. it kept a lot of the american ways. >>

very experienced wilderness men, if you will, they both are. so they had an idea of what they would need to do to survive and to be found. >> very smart. and that's, i think, what helped lead to this happy ending for sure. >>> it is 5:06. 60 degrees. the deadly meningitis outbreak continues to take a toll on our region. >>> a tropical storm hit southern baja flooding streets there. shelters in the area now being opened, and people are being warned to stay indoors. >> a lot of rain. so far, no rain here. it isery cold, at least for this time of the year. >> coming up on 11 minutes after 5:00, and storm team 4 meteorologist tom kierein is here with the forecast. >> time for weather and traffic on the ones. >>> stafford, virginia, hometown forecast by 7:00 a.m., just around 40. right now much of the region, upper 30s to low 40s. partly sunny by midday for the lunch hour, mid-60s for stafford and much of the region. as we look at the hour by hour forecast, by midafternoon, should hit the 60s for much of the area. i'm back with a look at the rest of

transportation, at the time of writing the book i was focused on how do you take people in the wilderness and appreciate the glory and beauty and connect with god. when i saw the cover of the book it was so much more beautiful than i imagined it to be. i had this really great experience of having the book been published awhile ago so i meet young adults in particular, educators who work with day school students and they say you wrote that book, i have that book, it is great. i use it. that was the intention that people would find very useful to help them connect jewish people with the outdoors and the mag jessty of the wilderness. >> the one thing out of my book is my character does create the word lists and she likes making up words. i saw on the internet, you were talking about it so wonderful we are all connected now. a little girl in canada reviewed my book and said one thing she really liked about it was making up words. she put her favorite words and i thought that was delightful this world wide connection with something that i had put out there. >> there is so much conversation in

a young woman spent four days in yosemite wilderness is getting back on her feet.she broke her back in a fall but is making remarkable recovery. this is a story you'll only he here. >> each step jessica garcia takes is painful a reminder of days in the wilderness. her doctors say she's lucky. >> the last thing i want to be is paralyzed. >> she says she's a fighter. >> i never quit, ever. >> that was put to the test unlike any she's faced the 23-year-old spent the summer working in yosemite national park. walking trails and climbed rocks three weeks ago about to begin a new job. the afternoon before orientation she decided to explore new surroundings. that decision near capitol hilled her. >> it was not meant to be a hike. >> about two miles into the walk she says she lost footing, slid over a ledge. >> it was a, almost a straight drop down. >> split shattered vertebrae she snapped these photos. jessica tells me she knew earliest anyone would begin looking was the next day. with little use ever her legs she crawled to find shelter. >> my right leg was numb and weigh

. >> kirk: you had a feeling when thompson went down we would see more of freeman even though wilder went in there initially, freeman ten carries, seven yards a touch and two touchdowns coming back to south florida to play in a big game he was fired up to go against former teammates and former friends. >> brent: sophomore. and if chris thompson is going to be lost for a longer period of time because of that injury they'll need him and james wilder. hopkins taps on the extra point. and it is a 20-point lead for the 'noles. >> kirk: great vion. pryor picking up a good block. we've seen this couple of times tonight but freeman. i think it's his vision. play is designed to go into the teeth of defense. there is nothing there. and he doesn't give up on the play. another time we see him bounce it to the outside and he's a load. he's undersized because he's only 5'8" but he's about 215 pounds. low center of gravity, tough guy to bring down. >> brent: so there are your bcs standings and get word from some of our friends out in las vegas way that oklahoma will be a strong touchdown favorite o

neil and jason were safely rescued yesterday after they have been stranded in the wilderness for days. rangers say these guys knew what they were doing out in that harsh and wintery condition they came upon. the men camped for four days at an elevation of 6,000 feet. they rationed their food, and that fire and an s.o.s. made out of logs, that's what caught the eye of the rescuer. >> these guys were prepared for whatever could happen. >> they were prepared and will and survival skills. >> that clearly made all of the difference. there were a lot of people before the 6:00 broadcast who were wondering if they were going to be found. >> that's good. knowledge is important if you go out in the wilderness. >> we had a nice day, a little below average. we can handle 65, maybe derek can't, but most of us can handle 65. it will be milder tomorrow and a cold front approaches on thursday afternoon. let's start with a live look outside. it is our michael and son weather cam. you see the colors starting to turn around the white house, very nice. high temperatures 65. down to 64. dew points in the

miss wilder, earlier on you said game changing was a way to describe that. how do you feel being more aware of those assets and what they can do will affect your planning? >> it really has changed. i can tell you on the bus coming back from the actual exercise event and the exchange event, there were so many discussions about what we can do differently and how we can change our plans so that there are more options, different ways we can look at which hospitals are still standing and what capabilities they have and then how to augment those and supplement with strategic use of state and dod resources. and really looking at how can we make the best possible care system stand and deliver after a catastrophic earthquake. and that was extraordinary. it was really, you know, it changed the perspective. if you understand most hospitals deal with short term emergencies, we have things that happen that are usually 4 to 12 hours in length for the most part except for h1n1, which was so prolonged that it actually was a very different type of response for us. but all th

two men from virginia lost in the wilderness.lues left behind and what's complicating the search effort is

. >> in the line between that is so natural, you can see birds and be in complete wilderness. i really like that about this. you could maybe get a little snapshot of what they are expecting. >> it is an interactive, keck sculpture that is interacted with by the visitor. >> they are a lot about and they fall down the belt. it moves the belt up, and if you turn that faster, the butterflies fall in the move of words. >> the art reflect the commission's commitment to acquiring the best work from the bay area and beyond. in addition to the five new commissions, 20 artworks that were already in the airport collection were reinstalled. some of which were historically cited in the terminal. it includes major sculptures by the international artists. as a collection, these art works tell the story of the vibrant arts scene in the early 1960's through the mid-1980s's. the illustrate san francisco's cultural center and a place of innovation that is recognized and the love throughout the world. one of the highlights is a series of three left tapestries. they are on view after being in stor

they were out in the wilderness. you could leave if you wanted to. this was a civilian conservation core. this is not trickle down next. in fact, it worked. it began to float local economies. they did an enormous amount of work. they wanted millions of trees. i looked over into alabama across a great forest of trees that were 70 years old. they're planted in huge numbers. imagine the kind of wildlife that becomes. they did an enormous amount of work and when the war was here, there was ready to go fight. this was not what this was intended to do. there are a few statues. they built a lot of lodges and visitor centers. these are just beautiful. amount of landscapes of ccc. this is the park. they did the work in them. the civil works administration was short lived. it was to get the people through the winter. and it was under the administration of a remarkable social worker from iowa named hary hopkins. he was the forerunner of the wpa and the prototype for it. this is a page from the cw a and it showed kids getting hot lunches. that was important. he

. ♪ >>> this is nesa and her song wilder, and some say it could take the crown for worst music and videois song it haunting in not a good way. ♪ >> this is the fist time in my life i wanted a mute button on my ears -- >> keep listening -- >> who says you know what i'm going to donate my money, i really believe in it? nesa, there she is. >> is this a booth at the mall where you can walk in and make a video? >> if you look up the rebecca black video, it says like this if you just saw the gnesa video. >> it sounded too good. >>> two videos to go. today's uner up at number two, imagine being in the driver's seat. >> strap in for a bit of a wild ride. this is in atlanta. see that black car? that's the nissan delta wing up ahead -- >> oh, look at his head. >> it's an open cockpit race car. it gets bumped by the porsche, rolls over, and takes the seven g impact into the wall. you see him motion to the porsche driver like what are you doing to me? it's a revolutionary type of race care. it has a wide stance in the back, but the front is like an arrow, it's a narrow front end. so even though he d

still available to be wilderness land while you open up many other millions of acres for exploration to meet the urgent needs of the country. it is a win-win situation. we never really came back after the gulf -- came back slowly. we have had a slow down on federal land. all it takes is the right attitude and let's get this done. it has to get done in an environmentally friendly fashion. we are the best in the world's at doing exploration in an environmentally sensitive area without damage. >> next question. ? we jump in on the energy discussion while we're waiting. you cannot have a serious discussion about expanding energy supply and making it affordable and reliable by demonizing successor. you cannot call out a specific company in a major forum for their own success. we have a bounty of energy resources here that we did not even know about five years ago. talking about shale, natural gas. while that will provide 40 or 50 years of enfettered supply, we have an obligation to look beyond that. instead of demonizing success today, instead characterizing energy companies as anything o

mmssing in thh wilderness. wwere the hhkers were last seen and he clues -. ccught on camera...e car tt boons another... and that's ttat hppens next. major securiiy cncerns tonighh involving he attacks on the ammrican consolate ii libya.thh two answers critics want to know frommthe administrrtion. --adbllb eathee it's heavy lifting. you start with a democratic senator named ben. by getting bwi-marshall funding for new runways, he's helping us serve 21 million passengers a year, which helps keep 100,000 jobs that depend on the airport, and that means more cargo for more businesses and more skycaps unloading more taxis... welcome to bwi. ...carrying families with more luggage. thanks. it's like he's out here with us. he's my friend, ben. i hope he's your friend, too. i'm ben cardin, and i approve this message. as a pastor, my support for question 6 is rooted in my belief that the government should treat everyone equally. i wouldn't want someone denying my rights based upon their religious views, so i shouldn't deny others based upon mine. it's about fairness. i support this law be

does this mean the president is playing politics here, to former virginia governor wilder, home to aumber of against contractors which would be vulnerable to the cuts if they pass. governor, it doesn't pass the sniff test to many, that the president or the white house in john would intervene in the issuing letters that are routine anyway in the event of cuts that are coming. it doesn't look good. what do you think? >>guest: i hope that is not the case of intervention, neil. if it is going to happen, as you properly put out, it has to happen. one of the things that had befuddled a lost americans during this election period that many of them are taken for pools, stupid, don't know what is going on, and we will tell way is important and what is not important. we know there are going to be cuts. we know there are going to be the cuts. the question is, when and where? virginia relies on against spending with the numbers of contract orders here and the defense installations we have in our state, our wonderful state. that is not going to help to play politics with it. i would happy that is

a vast expanse of wilderness considered to be the last frontier. for many this comes with a price -- the loss of freedom. in the next hour of "lockup," we go inside spring creek, alaska's only maximum security prison. a little more than 100 miles south of anchorage is seward, one of alaska's oldest towns. it is surrounded by water and the majestic surroundings. in the middle of the scenic beauty is a correctional facility that houses the most violent offenders. >> i'm a pimp on the street. you know what i'm saying? me and my girl, she didn't come back with the money on time so, you know, she got smashed. >> i was robbing a hotel in alaska and ended up getting in a fight with two people and hitting one of them with a hammer, a lot. >> they were like, what's going on, why are you killing me? i didn't say nothing to them or talk about it to them, i just did it, you know. and threw them into the bay. >> 500 inmates are housed on 328 acres of land which is surrounded by national park. alaska is the nation's largest state but it has the smallest prison p

he tells them to stay out of the gang, and that we have officers with a wilderness program. there are a number of things in the organization in place to start to make change. we have seen this over the last three or four years. in 2008 there were 98 homicides in san francisco. the number is now almost half. i think we continue to see that, as we work with the community. in closing, i want to say that your task force, they do an amazing job. they have the community aspect of this. they're out on the streets, and we will continue to build those relationships as long as we have this in place. thank you. [applause] >> gino, you grteew up in the ba area. -- bay aa.

he tells them to stay out of the gang, and that we have officers with a wilderness program. there are a number of things in the organization in place to start to make change. we have seen this over the last three or four years. in 2008 there were 98 homicides in san francisco. the number is now almost half. i think we continue to see that, as we work with the community. in closing, i want to say that your task force, they do an amazing job. they have the community aspect of this. they're out on the streets, and we will continue to build those relationships as long as we have this in place. thank you. [applause] >> gino, you grteew up in the ba area. -- bay area. how do you determine the gang? and what makes a person a gang member. >> we grew up in the city of richmond. we are known for violence. i looked at this as being part of a gang. the term "gang" is manifested through the media, and law enforcement for numbers. it was more of a community. i did not go to school and meet somebody. i lived on this block and this is where my grandmother's house was, or i was born and rais

. >> two hikers talk about the days they were lost in the wilderness. >>> tom kierein t >>> and now, from washington's leading news station, this is news4 today. >>> a woman is seriously hurt after being hit by a truck in college park. >>> a young man from bangladesh behind bars accused of trying to blow up the federal reserve building in new york. >>> people in d.c., maryland, and virginia will test their earthquake preparations as part of the first ever great southeast shakeout. we'll have much more on those stories throughout the morning. but first, good morning to you. i'm eun yang. >> and i'm aaron gilchrist. a live look at the washington monument this morning. 55 degrees here in the district. another cool but not chilly start to the morning. tom kierein has your forecast. >> beautiful start to the day. don't have any weather problems, traveling off to work and school this morning, other than maybe a little bit of fog in some of the rural areas. right now looking at temperatures -- all those areas in light blue are in the 40s. don't have any 30s around what we did yesterday morn

if we don't have it there, there won't be a marine wilderness would be my guess on the west coast. >> a hard time believing that somehow it's wrong to grow seashells on a seashore. it's -- this is a perfect use of a perfect resources. >> reporter: the choice whether to renew the permit rests with interior secretary ken salazar. he will have to decide if the only real way to protect nature is to exclude man. at dra estero, john ramos, cbs 5. >>> they promise to fix up your home but they end up in handcuffs. in the consumerwatch, the undercover sting cracking down on unlicensed contractors plus the sunscreen recall prompted by people catching fire. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the dow took a tailspin, fag 205-points today. the nasdaq lost 67. the s- >>> wall street suffered its worst day in four months. the dow took a tailspin falling 205 points today. the nasdaq was down 67. s&p down 24. poor corporate earnings reports pounded the stock market. >>> the state of california is cracking down on unlicensed contractors. as cbs 5 consumerwatch reporter julie watts tells us, a lot of unqualified people are

it was more of a wilderness retreat. morning. michael.n invited some of the branch managers and toby into the woods for a "get to know you" weekend. michael wasn't invited.

. >>> two people connect across four decades thanks to a well preserved note left in the wilderness. tim taylor wrote a note to the mountains in 1972. at the time he was a 13-year- old boy scout. he climbed to a peek and tucked the note inside a metal film canister. now 40 years later, a man hiking with his grandson climbs the same peek and finds the note. a newspaper ran the story on it and one of taylor's friends saw it and pointed it out to him. >> you're not going to believe this. you're in the paper for a note you left 40 years ago on some mountain top up in the sierra. >> the newspaper story helped connect taylor who is now 53 and living hundreds of miles away in san diego with the man who found his note. >>> still ahead, it is offered everything from yachts to customized libraries. dancing fountains even in the past. some of the high lights from this year's high end holiday wishing catalog coming up. >>> did health officials respond quickly enough to that outbreak of meningitis? we'll speak with some patients who say that they were left in the dark. that is tonight on the cbs

we also have another cool exhibit for people to go through , the maryland wilderness, a nice little part the zoo, ends up in the childrens zoo but goes through the four has been that's of maryland. -- habitats of maryland. it ends up in the farm yard, a lot of fun for the kids. the kids zone. pet and scratch the goats in. there another favorite area of mine is the african board walk yags can see the rhinos and the zebra and leopards and cheat tata, we have the chimp family in the chimp forest. cheetah. >> it's nothing as great as it is on tv sks nothing like seeing them up close and personal. we will get a check of the weather ask coming back to smash pumpkins. as we look ahead to the weekend, you will see temperatures will be chilly through the day tomorrow. breezy conditions, 58. winds die down tomorrow. sunday, warm south wind, in to the 70s. a warm and windy sunday for the ravens game. next week, seasonable temperatures, upper 60s, low 70s, we think the rain could be out of here in time for what we hope will be an orioles home fame tuesday night. let's bring it back here live to the

. >>> after four long days, stranded in the wilderness, two hikers are safe at home tonight. surae chinn caught up with jason this afternoon. >> they only had enough food for their two-day hike. they got lost on their second day, so what they did was ration their energy bars. they took a quarter of the bar for each person per day. >> there was so much snow. there was no trail to be seen. >> 32-year-old jason from richmond and neil from herndon set out in the back country of glacier national park. they were half way up the mountain when something terrible went wrong. pecket fell 30 yards down the steep terrain. >> when he fell, i was okay after he stopped sliding down the hill. >> worse still, their map blew away. they were lost in whiteout conditions. >> couldn't tell whether we should be going down or up because the map would have pulled us up. >> they decided the safest thing was to hunker down. the experienced hikers used their instincts. >> we did have an s.o.s. sign out of burnt logs on the hillside. >> they were stranded for four days, rationing energy bars. 50 rescuers

. >> in the line between that is so natural, you can see birds and be in complete wilderness. i really like that about this. you could maybe get a little snapshot of what they are expecting. >> it is an interactive, keck sculpture that is interacted with by the visitor. >> they are a lot about and they fall down the belt. it moves the belt up, and if you it moves the belt up, and if you educator. for 20 years i was executive directoroq for the chiensbo1x"÷ education committee where i helped renelster 100,000 immigrants to vote in san francisco. participate in our democracy. and i have been active for more participation in our elections. so please vote:d this election cycle. i've also been a teacher of san franciscoy years. i've also owned a small business. my wife and i ownav business in the richmond district. i've neighborhood for many, manyrá years, most recently cochair of the richmond police community%$ advisory board regarding pedestrian safety, traffic, and keeping the richmond safes night. we are low on staff, at the()y richmond police5vsc<ç station. if elected i will

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. >> could this baseball season get any wilder? >> here's the 2-2 pitch and a line drive to right field. it's going to be a base hit. two runs will score. and a 9-7 game. four runs. >> wow, the st. louis cardinals who were down to their final out rallied to take a two-run lead and defeat the washington nationals. it is the biggest comeback in a do or die game in post season history. hard to imagine how the fans, the nationals fans are feeling right now. d.c. bars may have to extend their hours tonight and more importantly, this means the san francisco giants will be heading back to california. national league championship series will start at at&t park on sunday, game time 5:00. hope you got a ticket. >> and the cardinals were down to their last strike twice and managed to pull this thing out and these game fives. we criticize them for a lot of things. divisional series thing at five games, it worked out every single time to go to five games. maybe that's luck, but fantastic games. >> even if you aren't a huge baseball fan, your te

. >>> this morning, two virginia hikers are waking up at home after they got lost in the wilderness for a week or so. neil and jason left for a hiking trip in montana's glacier national park and they got lost. their families called authorities when the men didn't return on time. the men tell news4 that they used a blanket and put out an sos used burned logs so rescuers could find them. they were rescued late monday. they say they were worried about their families back at home. >> i think that the people at home had it worse than we had it, sadly. >> my wife was having a baby shower on saturday when i still wasn't home yet, so i was worried about ruining that as well. >> he is expecting his first child. the men each lost about 15 pounds, but other than that, these two doctors are fine. >>> today we will get a look at the forecast for the upcoming winter. there will be winter predictions on how cold it will get and how much snow we should expect. federal meteorologists will also discuss how this year's winter weather might affect the ongoing drought across much of the country. >> we are n

i spend a lot of time up there by myself, like walt whitman, walking in the wilderness, muttering to myself with tears streaming down my cheeks. this is my hobby. [laughter] tavis: you have said that you do art to the exclusion of everything else. when you focus in on it, it excludes everything else. tell me why i should not read that as an elitist statement coming from an artist? >> maybe it is, but i consider it more just. i am able to do what i wanted to do. you look at me today, this elegant man sitting before you, you would never imagine that i might have been a scruffy, rebellious degenerate, you know? tavis: from new york. >> i do not do well with authority or agreeing with anybody on anything. to have this loaner profession is ideal for me. tavis: there are points that i can go back to in this conversation where it finally occurred to me, last night, doing my research for this conversation, to ask you whether or not, given that you grew up and were born in new york, would you have written these kinds of books -- you see where i'm going with this -- the story lines, the narrat