of the wildlife conservation society has been working with the cooperatives on behalf of the government the n.g.o.s helps them understand why for instance the match in the nets has to be big enough to let small fish through and why it's more sustainable to let the fish grow and reproduce. and they get the shaft isn't that the artists know fishing business doesn't produce any bicultural waste everything they catch is kept unused. they produce for the local gap and use market while industrial fishing is mainly export oriented and that's why we want to promote artists in the fishing but it shouldn't be just done in any old way it should be done well. from head to tail every part of the fish is used for the people and gab on fish is a staple food demand is high and the authorities know that even small fisheries are an important part of the economy. was a reason we believe today is marine resources are tomorrows gold that's why we have to protect or ecosystems 7 as opposed to one of the eco guards does everything it can to watch over the protected areas the hope is that bob bons concerted ef

live now to manaus and speak to carlos durigan, director of the wildlife conservation society's brazilhank you very much for your time. we should be clear, there are always fires in the amazon but this is far worse than usual. yes, good night, here in manaus it is 9pm now. and we are passing through a very bad season now. are passing through a very bad season now. we haven't increase in fires here as you saw and we are now just starting the dry season here in the region. we will have more, at least two months ahead and the situation tends to be worse in good prevention and back to wildfires must be done. it does no harm to remind us alljust how important the amazon is and how damaging what we are seeing is. excuse me, i didn't listen well. what i'm trying to get to is how important the amazon is, just a reminder of that for brazil, for the rest of the world and how damaging what is happening now is. yes. we have here one of the last regions in terms of forest, amazon is not only forest. here we have the largest river basin system. we have more than 300 ethnic groups, indigenous groups,