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so the question remains, what exactly did david wildstein say?y to the governor these lanes were closed for some other political motivation, did he spell it out to him? or did he say the lanes are closed? we don't know that. during the diane sawyer interview, the governor was careful with his wording. he said, he made a joke. he said david wildstein did not tell him he was closing lanes to punish the mayor. he would have remembered that. did he say something else that indicated that? we don't know. >> it's interesting to me the sort of vociferous rebuttals of the idea this would be damning information from david wildstein from the governor's lawyers in this report today. because why would the governor remember anything about a traffic matter? it doesn't make sense to me that david wildstein would have told the governor, hey, there's a lot of traffic on the streets of ft. lee today. he wouldn't have brought it up to him that way. presumably what david wildstein is saying, i'm asking you this, correct me if you read it in a different way or see evi
so the question remains, what exactly did david wildstein say?y to the governor these lanes were closed for some other political motivation, did he spell it out to him? or did he say the lanes are closed? we don't know that. during the diane sawyer interview, the governor was careful with his wording. he said, he made a joke. he said david wildstein did not tell him he was closing lanes to punish the mayor. he would have remembered that. did he say something else that indicated that? we don't...
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we have wildstein to kelly, wildstein to baroni, wildstein to others. official and personal, we saw it. we have baroni to wildstein, baroni to kelly, official and personal. we saw it. the only thing we have not seen -- and we have seen a lot more than anybody else in this room has seen because we have seen the person texts and e-mails of those in the governor's office, senior levels, and even some former members. the only thing we have not seen is kelly to -- during the relevant period. guess what. what we found was that whatever personal relationship they had, it ended by the first week of august, 20 13. they largely stopped speaking. so i don't expect we know it from our witness interviews and it was concerned -- confirmed by multiple interviews. let me just finish. we should not be yelling out. let me just finish. necessarily tot see anything more come from that, but we have seen so much. we have seen so much hard evidence. with all this time, the hard evidence and the private communications, that we have had access to and we have seen, some of which
we have wildstein to kelly, wildstein to baroni, wildstein to others. official and personal, we saw it. we have baroni to wildstein, baroni to kelly, official and personal. we saw it. the only thing we have not seen -- and we have seen a lot more than anybody else in this room has seen because we have seen the person texts and e-mails of those in the governor's office, senior levels, and even some former members. the only thing we have not seen is kelly to -- during the relevant period. guess...
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wildstein was meeting with a christie spokesman in december. wildstein suggested he mentioned the traffic you shall shoe at a public event. a reference the governor does not recall and even if actually made would not have registered with the governor because he knew nothing about it in advance and would not have required it to be memorable. that strikes me as a heavy handed passage. it's not saying the governor claims this. it's coming out and asserting and using confident language that the governor doesn't recall it. it wouldn't have registered with him. it's very heavy handed. >> well, it's more like i do a radio show at 5:00 on fridays and this was, as you can imagine, the topic. somebody says, well, this is like a confection. it's like a novel. it really is. it's the tone. it's the word that is are used. it's hard to take it seriously. as an objective report trying to get to the facts. >> i guess, i was surprised because i don't think anybody in trenton, new jersey, anybody on the planet expected this was going to do anything other than exo
wildstein was meeting with a christie spokesman in december. wildstein suggested he mentioned the traffic you shall shoe at a public event. a reference the governor does not recall and even if actually made would not have registered with the governor because he knew nothing about it in advance and would not have required it to be memorable. that strikes me as a heavy handed passage. it's not saying the governor claims this. it's coming out and asserting and using confident language that the...
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they haven't talked to wildstein, but wildstein through his lawyer has made it very clear he is interested in talking to the u.s. attorney. we know the u.s. attorney has talked to a lot of people or could talk to a lot of people whose christie's legal team were unable to reach. christie's team mentioned dawn zimmer. everybody around dawn zimmer not interviewed for them. documents wanted from dawn zimmer not provided. you know who has the documents? the u.s. attorney. you no whoa has talked to dawn zimmer? the u.s. attorney. people around here? the u.s. attorney. i don't read this as any kind of authoritative report. this is christie's version of events, it's his defense. maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong, but he is not the judge of it. >> but krystal, if this is just christie's lawyers and a christie report by those defending him, let's remember the man heading up the investigation himself has an interesting -- has interesting ties to christie. randy maestro is the former chief of staff to rudy giuliani, also happens to be a major ally of christie's. but furthermore, at least $1 million i
they haven't talked to wildstein, but wildstein through his lawyer has made it very clear he is interested in talking to the u.s. attorney. we know the u.s. attorney has talked to a lot of people or could talk to a lot of people whose christie's legal team were unable to reach. christie's team mentioned dawn zimmer. everybody around dawn zimmer not interviewed for them. documents wanted from dawn zimmer not provided. you know who has the documents? the u.s. attorney. you no whoa has talked to...
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that's david wildstein and bridget kelly. i don't have in front of me -- i wish i had the exact wording. but one of the most astounding things to me, it strongly suggests that bridget kelly -- it says that bridget kelly and bill stepien had a personal relationship. nobody's ever aired this publicly, but if you call around and talk to people around trenton, it was sort of -- this was common knowledge and supposedly it's true and everybody knows it, but nobody talks about it. so they are putting it in public with this thing. but they suggest that her state of mind in august, it might have been part of her motivation for orchestrating the lane cover-ups. basically suggest in their language that stepien cut off the relationship with her, this might have affected her state of mind. this is when she started communicating with david wildstein. almost like they're saying she wanted to somehow impress bill stepien or something by pulling this off after he broke up with her. it's an amazing -- the insinuation in here -- >> it's just an
that's david wildstein and bridget kelly. i don't have in front of me -- i wish i had the exact wording. but one of the most astounding things to me, it strongly suggests that bridget kelly -- it says that bridget kelly and bill stepien had a personal relationship. nobody's ever aired this publicly, but if you call around and talk to people around trenton, it was sort of -- this was common knowledge and supposedly it's true and everybody knows it, but nobody talks about it. so they are putting...
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in fact, in that one exchange with wildstein in which wildstein says he told the governor something about a traffic study or a traffic issue when they met on september 11th, the report quotes kevin o'dowd, the chief of staff, saying the governor does not recall the conversation. it doesn't directly quote where what governor christie remembered about the conversation. i thought that was an interesting and important omission. >> it's also interesting because when you read it, the language, michael isikoff, it almost sounds like a quote. it almost sounds like -- we have heard chris christie do the even if i did know i would have thought it was memorable because i'm the governor of the state. it is telling there are no quote marks around that or anywhere around the governor's statements. part of the reason, michael isikoff, there are many reasons why i find this report fairly outlandish, one is the presumption that it's exhaustive and complete without talking to any of the major players, but also, it's a defense document that christie's defense team effectively that has been paid for by new j
in fact, in that one exchange with wildstein in which wildstein says he told the governor something about a traffic study or a traffic issue when they met on september 11th, the report quotes kevin o'dowd, the chief of staff, saying the governor does not recall the conversation. it doesn't directly quote where what governor christie remembered about the conversation. i thought that was an interesting and important omission. >> it's also interesting because when you read it, the language,...
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wildstein. how do you know david wildstein told him about the traffic study?> i'm glad you asked the questions i'm going to beat myself so hopefully it's crystal clear, okay? whether or not david wildstein mentioned that there was a traffic issue or a traffic study or a traffic problem in fort lee, that is not a memorable event to a governor as to whether the port authority is involved in some traffic issue in fort lee at a bridge or tunnel. it is simply not an issue that would register with the governor, with the governor as a significance. however, if there had been a circumstance where there's a discussion of ulterior motives, that is something that definitely would've registered with the governor. at how could that have been, surrounded by people, many people from the port authority, dozens of people coming up to him constantly. that didn't happen and no one has suggested it. all and 11's lawyer has in a letter to the port authority and the context of wildstein's not only seeking immunity from prosecution but also indemnification from the port authority, i
wildstein. how do you know david wildstein told him about the traffic study?> i'm glad you asked the questions i'm going to beat myself so hopefully it's crystal clear, okay? whether or not david wildstein mentioned that there was a traffic issue or a traffic study or a traffic problem in fort lee, that is not a memorable event to a governor as to whether the port authority is involved in some traffic issue in fort lee at a bridge or tunnel. it is simply not an issue that would register with...
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. >> points the singer solely at bridget kelly and david wildstein. >> david wildstein went to bridget kelly for approval. >> why? >> we're not able to answer every question today. >> everyone is asking questions like what did you know and when did you know it? >> please let me answer this question first. we're not going to interrupt each other. >> this is not a federal investigation or a legislate i have investigation. >> this is chris christie's lawyer. >> this is from the governor's office. >> this was somebody chosen by christie. >> why? governor chris christie explain. >> the defense made its opening case today in the case of the people versus chris christie, the people who do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth about what happened at the george washington bridge. 42% of new jersey voters do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth. and 63% of nationwide voters do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth. if you are one of the 42% of new jersey voters who do not believe chris christie, the over $1 million of your money that he spent on his
. >> points the singer solely at bridget kelly and david wildstein. >> david wildstein went to bridget kelly for approval. >> why? >> we're not able to answer every question today. >> everyone is asking questions like what did you know and when did you know it? >> please let me answer this question first. we're not going to interrupt each other. >> this is not a federal investigation or a legislate i have investigation. >> this is chris christie's...
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david wildstein is a close personal friends of bill barone, and it was david wildstein who brought bill barone into the port authority. yet you continue to do a question where the premise of this, that he was my close personal friend there for -- what led to soul searching was the fact that our administration disappointed the people of new jersey through the conduct of some of its members and that the entire premise of what i have tried to do as governor is to restore faith and trust in the government. and in the motivationings of the people who are doing the work on their behalf. and when you fall short of that, as we did, that causes soul searching. and what i have said in response to this question now a number of times is, there's no question that now i need to be much clearer to people about what my expectations are. that i need to be even more direct about what i will permit and what i won't permit. and to the extent i didn't do that. and that any of these people to conclude, that this was appropriate, that that's my failing too. so that's the result of my soul searching over the l
david wildstein is a close personal friends of bill barone, and it was david wildstein who brought bill barone into the port authority. yet you continue to do a question where the premise of this, that he was my close personal friend there for -- what led to soul searching was the fact that our administration disappointed the people of new jersey through the conduct of some of its members and that the entire premise of what i have tried to do as governor is to restore faith and trust in the...
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wildstein into the port authority, with my permission. but not at my suggestion. so, i know that you continue to try to report this and go back to every high school friend i had to get them to say, weren't they friends? and every one says we weren't. and yet you continue to have a question where the premise was he was my close personal friend, and she soul searching. what led to soul-searching was the fact that our administration disappointed the people of new jersey through the conduct of its members and that's the entire enemy press of what i tried to do as governor, is restore faith and trust in the government and he motivations of be people doing work on their behalf and when you fall short of that, that causes sole-search -- soul-searching, and what i have said, there's no question that now i need to be much clearer to people about what my expectations are. that i need to be even more direct about what i will permit and won't permit, and that's the extent that i didn't do and that i led any people to conclude this was appropriate, th
wildstein into the port authority, with my permission. but not at my suggestion. so, i know that you continue to try to report this and go back to every high school friend i had to get them to say, weren't they friends? and every one says we weren't. and yet you continue to have a question where the premise was he was my close personal friend, and she soul searching. what led to soul-searching was the fact that our administration disappointed the people of new jersey through the conduct of its...
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the focuses on david wildstein and bridget anne kelly. it says that wildstein seemed to be the instigator of this plan comparing it to so many other crazy ones that never got off the ground. it says that bill sptep eyen wa aware of the screen. it says the governor's version of the event rings true. wildstein says he discussed the lane closures with christie during a september 11th event which christie denies. >> david wildstein has said at a 9/11 event, he talked to you about traffic, a little ambiguous. did he? >> i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people i spoke to. we stood around and spoke briefly i don't have a recollection of him saying anything. he didn't say, hey, by the way, governor, i'm closing down some lanes in the george washington bridge to stick it to the mayor. is that okay? that, i would remember. >> even if wildstein did bring it up, it would not have been meaningful or memborable to the governor. christie is described over and over as being emotional with these meetings trying to
the focuses on david wildstein and bridget anne kelly. it says that wildstein seemed to be the instigator of this plan comparing it to so many other crazy ones that never got off the ground. it says that bill sptep eyen wa aware of the screen. it says the governor's version of the event rings true. wildstein says he discussed the lane closures with christie during a september 11th event which christie denies. >> david wildstein has said at a 9/11 event, he talked to you about traffic, a...
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. >> the report blames former port authority official david wildstein, saying the plan to target the democratic mayor of ft. lee was, quote, wildstein's idea, like so many other crazy ones he'd had before that, never got off the ground. >> he seemed to have all sorts of bizarre personal and political animus towards a variety of people. >> the lawyers hired by christie's office implicate his former deputy chief of staff, bridget kelly, even implying a personal relationship between kelly and christie's former top advisor, bill steppian, may have colored kelly's judgment. quote, at some point after steppian's departure to run the campaign, kelly and steppian became personally involved, although by early august 2013, their personal relationship had cooled, apparently at steppian's choice, and they largely stopped speaking. in a statement an attorney for bill steppian says the report bolsters his claims that he had no involvement in the bridge scandal, saying, quote, there is no support for the notion implied by his summary banishment that mr. steppian was blameworthy this this incident.
. >> the report blames former port authority official david wildstein, saying the plan to target the democratic mayor of ft. lee was, quote, wildstein's idea, like so many other crazy ones he'd had before that, never got off the ground. >> he seemed to have all sorts of bizarre personal and political animus towards a variety of people. >> the lawyers hired by christie's office implicate his former deputy chief of staff, bridget kelly, even implying a personal relationship...
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it is not specific what they are saying wildstein told him but saying this would not have registered with the governor because he would have thought of it as some kind of local traffic issue and basically claim he had no recollection of that with wildstein but it could have and probably did happen. just saying it wouldn't have registered because it wouldn't have been presented as i'm pulling off this massive retribution scene. he was pretending it was more a routine traffic issue. overall what struck me about this, this is the most important thing to keep in mind. this is his lawyer. this is a report, internal investigation. what this really reads like is this is christie's defense. they are mounting their defense here. all of the evidence and documents they can get and they couldn't get everybody in this. they couldn't get the most crucial players because they didn't talk to bridget kelly and mayor sokolich or dawn zimmer. i'm about halfway through and it may -- it may be that everything in this report is true, but the thing to keep in mind, thgs not the definitive report on this. t
it is not specific what they are saying wildstein told him but saying this would not have registered with the governor because he would have thought of it as some kind of local traffic issue and basically claim he had no recollection of that with wildstein but it could have and probably did happen. just saying it wouldn't have registered because it wouldn't have been presented as i'm pulling off this massive retribution scene. he was pretending it was more a routine traffic issue. overall what...
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. >> bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, david wildstein. dawn zimmer, mayor sokolich all refused to be interviewed. >> those are some pretty key figures in this, that if they weren't interviewed, how do you come to that conclusion? >> well, because you don't just come to conclusions from interviews. there's lots and lots of documents that involve all those people which have been part of the public record and will be becoming part of the public record as we go forward. some of those folks, at least three of them, have asserted their constitutional right not to speak. if they continue to do that, no one will ever speak to them. >> so there may be questions surrounding this, would you concede, that we may simply never the answers to? >> right. i don't think any of the important questions. i think all the important questions will be answered. >> today christie's lawyer, randy mastro released the full 360-page report to the press. we have it. it is lengthy. despite governor christie's prediction, it doesn't address some of the most important que
. >> bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, david wildstein. dawn zimmer, mayor sokolich all refused to be interviewed. >> those are some pretty key figures in this, that if they weren't interviewed, how do you come to that conclusion? >> well, because you don't just come to conclusions from interviews. there's lots and lots of documents that involve all those people which have been part of the public record and will be becoming part of the public record as we go forward....
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wildstein resigned in december. kelley was fired. new jersey lawmakers and federal prosecutors are still investigating. sharyn. >> alfonsi: all right, thanks, jeff. there has been a dramatic increase in the number of americans signing up for private insurance under the president's health care law. today,let white house said enrollments topped 6 million, although that's still short of the original estimate of 7 million by march 31. james schlesinger, who served three presidents died today. he was secretary of defense under presidents nixon and ford and the first secretary of energy under president carter. he also served as a director of the c.i.a. james schlesinger was 85. the kennedy presidential library foundation announced today it is awarding its profile in courage award to former president george h.w. bush. the foundation says mr. bush showed political courage when he abandon his "read my lips" promise of no new taxes and agreed to a 1990 budget compromise that many believe cost him his reelection. and there's been a surge in the
wildstein resigned in december. kelley was fired. new jersey lawmakers and federal prosecutors are still investigating. sharyn. >> alfonsi: all right, thanks, jeff. there has been a dramatic increase in the number of americans signing up for private insurance under the president's health care law. today,let white house said enrollments topped 6 million, although that's still short of the original estimate of 7 million by march 31. james schlesinger, who served three presidents died today....
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wildstein has said he told the governor about this when it was happening. now this report that cost all this money, $600,000 bucks, whatever, doesn't even say whether the governor had a conversation with wildstein or not during the course of the bridge closures. it does, however, even though it says it doesn't know whether they had the conversation characterize it as saying well, it obviously left no impression on the governor. how can they not know whether there was a conversation, these lawyers, and at the same time characterize it as not being provocative enough to have grabbed the attention of the governor? one thing or the other happened. they had the conversation or they didn't visit. if they did have it, they got to believe it happened and therefore they have to say here is what happened. but no, they just dismiss it. in other words, whether it happened or didn't happen, it doesn't matter. that's the sort of conclusion they draw on this whole possibility that that guy, the governor knew what was going on. brian? >> they've read it -- they've written
wildstein has said he told the governor about this when it was happening. now this report that cost all this money, $600,000 bucks, whatever, doesn't even say whether the governor had a conversation with wildstein or not during the course of the bridge closures. it does, however, even though it says it doesn't know whether they had the conversation characterize it as saying well, it obviously left no impression on the governor. how can they not know whether there was a conversation, these...
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wildstein was drawn right into the it. even bill barone who has been a friend of chris christie for a long time. it could not have been done unless christie had signed off on it. it is the most ridiculous million dollar report that i think i have ever read in my career, and when i got to the part where they were trying to blame kelly and the reason they gave for it, i thought, this is like a saturday night lives skit, it's not real. >> because you know all these players so well, the stephian part of it is also unreal. he may have had these conversations that upset the governor. but stephian's response to it is not good. he says the report's conclusion of -- which began after he left the governor's office ended before the lane closure debacle gang and took place at a time when both he and ms. kelly were single. but obviously bill stephian is upset got this too, they have now made a third person really angry. >> i think the report characterized stephien's -- they couldn't find any evidence that he was directly involved or an
wildstein was drawn right into the it. even bill barone who has been a friend of chris christie for a long time. it could not have been done unless christie had signed off on it. it is the most ridiculous million dollar report that i think i have ever read in my career, and when i got to the part where they were trying to blame kelly and the reason they gave for it, i thought, this is like a saturday night lives skit, it's not real. >> because you know all these players so well, the...
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wildstein claims he discussed the event with a september 11th event. >> david wildstein said at a 9/11 you about traffic. it's a little ambiguous exactly what. did he? >> yeah. i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people that i spoke to that day. we stood around and spoke briefly that day. i don't have any recollection of him saying anything but i'll tell you this. i'll tell you what he didn't say. he didn't say, hey, by the was he, governor, i'm closing down some lanes on the george washington to stick it to the mayor, is that okay? that, i'd remember. >> as you know, the word bully, bullying comes up over and over again. have you asked yourself, did i do anything to create the climate in which this happened? >> sure. spent a lot of time the last 11 weeks thinking about what did i do, if anything, to contribute to this, and i don't believe that i did. but i'm certainly disappointed in myself that i wasn't able to pick up these traits in these people. i'm disappointed in myself that i didn't look closer, that i trusted too much. >> i think it's rem
wildstein claims he discussed the event with a september 11th event. >> david wildstein said at a 9/11 you about traffic. it's a little ambiguous exactly what. did he? >> yeah. i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people that i spoke to that day. we stood around and spoke briefly that day. i don't have any recollection of him saying anything but i'll tell you this. i'll tell you what he didn't say. he didn't say, hey, by the was he, governor,...
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it is sad that david wildstein did what he did. and our report reflects our findings in regard to those individuals. but it is not reflective of the actions of the whole at either the governors office or the port authority. yes, yes. [inaudible] >> brian, we have so may people here. do one quick one, please. [inaudible] >> the governor asked for his resignation? >> again, what our report reflects, it was not about david samson or his conduct. he denied having any prior knowledge in connection with the lane closures. so that was not -- and he was not involved in the hoboken issue at all. the allegation made by mayor zimmer that the funding of a rockefeller group study on the port authority, a study of hoboken's north end, that the port authority paid for, that found the rockefeller group's project should be designated for development, it turns out that it was mayor zimmer who asked the port authority to fund the study. and the port authority decided to fund that study before david samson ever became a sticking share of the port auth
it is sad that david wildstein did what he did. and our report reflects our findings in regard to those individuals. but it is not reflective of the actions of the whole at either the governors office or the port authority. yes, yes. [inaudible] >> brian, we have so may people here. do one quick one, please. [inaudible] >> the governor asked for his resignation? >> again, what our report reflects, it was not about david samson or his conduct. he denied having any prior...
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another, david wildstein, rumbling about getting immunity.ut until they do, the governor points out a new report issued today clears him, and he sat down with me in his family home to explain why. >> this report says that i had no knowledge of it before it happened. nor did i authorize it. or have anything to do with it. and that's the truth. >> but does it make you feel clueless? did it make you feel like what was wrong with me? >> not clueless, but it certainly makes me feel taken advantage of and also more importantly, i feel like i let people down. by not knowing. sometimes people do inexplicably stupid things. >> but critics point out the report was commissioned by the christie administration itself. i want to get to what everybody is saying about this report. words are used, whitewash, expensive scam that the tax pairs hapair ers of new jersey paid for your lawyers to find you blameless. >> first off, these are not my lawyers. >> but it's the law firm that you've been affiliated with in the past. you knew one of the partners. chosen by
another, david wildstein, rumbling about getting immunity.ut until they do, the governor points out a new report issued today clears him, and he sat down with me in his family home to explain why. >> this report says that i had no knowledge of it before it happened. nor did i authorize it. or have anything to do with it. and that's the truth. >> but does it make you feel clueless? did it make you feel like what was wrong with me? >> not clueless, but it certainly makes me feel...
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that is what wildstein claimed at a time when he knew he was going to have to resign.tioned a traffic issue would not have been the meaningful event to the governor. it is about the ulterior motive. there is no allegation that anybody said anything about an u ulterior motive. the fact of 9 matter is, the government didn' beforehand and took appropriate steps, and bridget anne kelly covered up with her colleagues, she asked another colleague to destroy one of her e-mails that would have shown her participation in this, keeping it from the governor and his chief of staff. >> i got to go, great to see you, thank you for joining us. >> thank you, megyn. >> and tomorrow night here on "the kelly file," governor chris christie sits down with yours truly for an interview. i'll ask him about this i'll ask him about this criticism and the report and huma. even when weross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see wha
that is what wildstein claimed at a time when he knew he was going to have to resign.tioned a traffic issue would not have been the meaningful event to the governor. it is about the ulterior motive. there is no allegation that anybody said anything about an u ulterior motive. the fact of 9 matter is, the government didn' beforehand and took appropriate steps, and bridget anne kelly covered up with her colleagues, she asked another colleague to destroy one of her e-mails that would have shown...
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you have david wildstein. you have bill stepien who all will not talk. thank you so much, and assemblywoman, you're a great guest to have on an important night. >>> no matter how bad the bridge scandal looks for christie, he still considers him a viable candidate for president of united states in 2016. as an east coast republican, he may be among the republicans with the best chance of knocking off secretary clinton, but that's only if he can get past the right wing republicans in the caucuses and primaries. but look at the guy. he is still game to run. he is going out there to vegas this weekend to basically shake his cuff. >>> plus, what has become known as the sheldon adelson primary, the conga line of 2016 republican hopefuls auditions in vegas right now for that one older billionaire's support. and more importantly, his money. >>> and while things look bleak for congressional democrats this november, republicans have done nothing to address their shrinking political base. and let's face it, lack of a positive political message. think of it. what is
you have david wildstein. you have bill stepien who all will not talk. thank you so much, and assemblywoman, you're a great guest to have on an important night. >>> no matter how bad the bridge scandal looks for christie, he still considers him a viable candidate for president of united states in 2016. as an east coast republican, he may be among the republicans with the best chance of knocking off secretary clinton, but that's only if he can get past the right wing republicans in the...
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it was an exchange between wildstein and kelly on monday, august 5.mous time for some traffic e-mail went out on august 13. this is the e-mail that suggests kelly and wildstein are trying to arrange a meeting between port authority chairman david samson, his name has come up a lot, and governor christie. and wildstein, the command was only turn over documents that are relative to the lane closur closures. so in turk this over, wildstein is strongly hinting, is strongly suggesting that this attempted meeting or this possible meeting that may have taken place between the governor and david samson is related to the closure. one thing you have to believe is either this meeting didn't take place, there was no -- this is a red herring, there was no christie/samson meeting, or the meeting took place and a week before the time for l some traffic problems e-mail went out from bridget kelly, the subject never came up at all. this is one of the great mysteries in all of this. >> sitting on the committee and actu actually reviewing a lot of these documents, it's
it was an exchange between wildstein and kelly on monday, august 5.mous time for some traffic e-mail went out on august 13. this is the e-mail that suggests kelly and wildstein are trying to arrange a meeting between port authority chairman david samson, his name has come up a lot, and governor christie. and wildstein, the command was only turn over documents that are relative to the lane closur closures. so in turk this over, wildstein is strongly hinting, is strongly suggesting that this...
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wildstein and ms. kelly. some type of nefarious or inappropriate motivation. >> today christie laid a fair share of the blame on problems at the port authority saying his initial reaction to the lane closures was colored by a history of conflict that existed there. >> there was, as you can see from the report, a history of conflict between these folks at the port authority. we believed it was an operational issue with the port authority that they needed to deal with and we told them deal with it and that's where it ended. so part of the problem with all this is that all of us -- you, me, and everybody -- is now looking through the retrospectroscope. you're always smarter and you always know more when that you have. >> christie announced today in light of the internal report's findings that he wants to examine whether or not to split the massive bi-state agency into two. and that he's accepted the resignation of port authority chairman david sampson. the timing of that resignation is raising all sorts of quest
wildstein and ms. kelly. some type of nefarious or inappropriate motivation. >> today christie laid a fair share of the blame on problems at the port authority saying his initial reaction to the lane closures was colored by a history of conflict that existed there. >> there was, as you can see from the report, a history of conflict between these folks at the port authority. we believed it was an operational issue with the port authority that they needed to deal with and we told them...
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wildstein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him.s working on an issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. anyone who believed the lane closures was retaliatory in anyway, is crazy. you're a conspiracy theorist if you believe this was anything but a traffic study. paul has been the most vociferous defender of the cover-up, of the fake story about the fake traffic study. even when everyone else was saying that there was no traffic study. paul stood up not to just defend that story, but to take credit for it, it was me. until today. today paul nunziato took it all back. even though until today, he was the origin for the supposed traffic study. today his attorney says, actually, no, that was never true. this is amazing. paul nunziato had nothing to do with nor knowledge of the plan
wildstein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him.s working on an issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. anyone who believed the lane closures was retaliatory in anyway, is crazy. you're a conspiracy theorist if...
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david wildstein is a close personal friend of bill baroni. it was him who brought him into the port authority with my permission, but not at my suggestion. i know you continue to try to report the single back to every high school friend that i had to try to get them to save, were they friends? every one of them tells you that we were not. you continue to do a question where the premise of it is that he was my close personal friend, therefore the soul-searching. what led to soul-searching was the fact our ministries in this point the people of new jersey through the conduct of some of its members. that is the entire premise of what i have tried to do as governor, store faith and trust in the government. in the motivation of the people who do work on their behalf. when you fall short of that, as we did, that causes soul-searching. as i have said a number of times, it is a question that i need to the much clearer to people about what my expectations are. that i need to be even more direct about what i will permit and what i won't permit. that is
david wildstein is a close personal friend of bill baroni. it was him who brought him into the port authority with my permission, but not at my suggestion. i know you continue to try to report the single back to every high school friend that i had to try to get them to save, were they friends? every one of them tells you that we were not. you continue to do a question where the premise of it is that he was my close personal friend, therefore the soul-searching. what led to soul-searching was...
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or does wildstein or neither? there's a bit of a competition between them now that's been set off. >> melissa, there's another part of the statement that is highly deeply ominous. i want to read this excerpt here. it says "preemptive strike to isolate miss kelly and impugn her credibility isn't surprising. despite mr. mastro," christie's lawyer," despite mr. mastro's editorialized comments, miss kelly is not a liar, a single mother of four children who's deeply devoted and committed to her job at the office during her tenure. worked tirelessly to pursue the goals of the office during her tenure. one wonders, melissa, what those goals really were. >> sure. i mean, there's a lot of questions about whether or not bridget kelly was acting alone or getting orders from some sort of higher up. we done know the answers to that because we haven't heard from bridget kelly yet. we do know, officially, her role in the governor christie's office was as head of intergovernmental affairs. her office interacted with mayors and ot
or does wildstein or neither? there's a bit of a competition between them now that's been set off. >> melissa, there's another part of the statement that is highly deeply ominous. i want to read this excerpt here. it says "preemptive strike to isolate miss kelly and impugn her credibility isn't surprising. despite mr. mastro," christie's lawyer," despite mr. mastro's editorialized comments, miss kelly is not a liar, a single mother of four children who's deeply devoted and...
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wildstein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him.n issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. it was paul who said that anybody who believed the bridge lane closures were retaliatory in any way is a crazy person. if you believe that, his spokesman said i would suggest we're going to find hoffa's body on the leona helmsley in ft. lee. paul stood up not to just defend that story, but to take credit for it, it was me. until today. today paul nunziato took it all back. even though until today, he was said to be the origin of the whole idea for the supposed traffic study, today his attorney says actually, no, that was never true. this is amazing. he's told "the new york times," " paul nunziato had nothing to do with nor knowledge of the planning, implementation or closing of the acces
wildstein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him.n issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. it was paul who said that anybody who believed the bridge lane closures were retaliatory in any way is a crazy person. if...
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christie says about david wildstein now.d say anything to save wildlife steen. david samson should know that when chris christie says he stands by you, there's an expiration date on that promise. ♪ no two people have the same financial goals. pnc investments works with you to understand yours and helps plan for your retirement. talk to a pnc investments financial advisor today. ♪ where their electricity comes from. they flip the switch-- and the light comes on. it's our job to make sure that it does. using natural gas this power plant can produce enough energy for about 600,000 homes. generating electricity that's cleaner and reliable, with fewer emissions-- it matters. ♪ and a hotel is the perfect place to talk to you about hotels. all-you-can-eat is a hotel policy that allows you to eat all that you can. the hotel gym is short for gymnasium. the hotel pool is usually filled with water. and the best dot com for booking hotels, is hotels.com. it's on the internet, but you probably knew that. or maybe not, i don't really know
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as they were happening, but the governor told the lawyers that he does not remember wildstein telling that. the role of campaign manager, though, there seen talking to the governor on the right remains unclear. the report says that the closings, quote: it was wildstein's idea, like so many other ones he'd had before that never got off the ground. kelly's e-mail exchanges with wildstein were particularly damning because she seemed to be blessing the decision beforehand for some ulterior motive. the campaign manager showed awareness but not approval. >> that governor governor christie had no knowledge beforehand of this george washington bridge realignment idea and that he played no role whatsoever in that decision or the implementation of it. >> reporter: mastro says kelly lied about the closings and no one else in the governor's office knew about it. he said, though, there were ulterior motives related to the fort lee mayor, but the investigators cuddle not find out exactly what they were. hoboken mayor's claims that the administration withheld funds for hurricane sandy relief unless
as they were happening, but the governor told the lawyers that he does not remember wildstein telling that. the role of campaign manager, though, there seen talking to the governor on the right remains unclear. the report says that the closings, quote: it was wildstein's idea, like so many other ones he'd had before that never got off the ground. kelly's e-mail exchanges with wildstein were particularly damning because she seemed to be blessing the decision beforehand for some ulterior motive....
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wildstein and ms. kelly, some type of inappropriate motivation for it. lanes being dedicate it to fort s. i don't think it was essential but he did. and so he called me this afternoon and told me that if you're going to have a chance to institute these type of reforms, i think you have to have somebody in there who will be able to take a brand new look at this and not have to worry about the things of the past and so i'm going to go. now, like i said in response to your earlier question over here, this comes as no great shock because david started talking about wanting to leave, and the only reason he stayed is because i asked him to. so didn't come to a shock to me this morning he called and said it. i didn't expect the call this morning. but his action is not a shock to me. i didn't think it was essential, because if i did i would have asked him to resign myself. he believed it was essential. i don't disagree with him and i accepted his resignation this afternoon. walt? >> earlier you talked about the -- [inaudible question] >> i'm sure. i'm sure. lisp
wildstein and ms. kelly, some type of inappropriate motivation for it. lanes being dedicate it to fort s. i don't think it was essential but he did. and so he called me this afternoon and told me that if you're going to have a chance to institute these type of reforms, i think you have to have somebody in there who will be able to take a brand new look at this and not have to worry about the things of the past and so i'm going to go. now, like i said in response to your earlier question over...
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christie says about david wildstein now.ein will do and say anything to save wildlife steen. david samson should know that when chris christie says he stands by you, there's an expiration date on that promise. [ female announcer ] from your first breath, to your first roll, pampers swaddlers was there. and now swaddlers are available through size 5, for many more firsts to come. ♪ pampers. there was a boy who traveled to a faraway place where villages floated on water and castles were houses dragons lurked, giants stood tall, and the good queen showed the boy it could all be real. avo: whatever you can imagine, all in one place. expedia, find yours. humans -- we are beautifully imperfect creatures, living in an imperfect world. that's why liberty mutual insurance has your back, offering exclusive products like optional better car replacement, where, if your car is totaled, we give you the money to buy one a model year newer. call... and ask an insurance expert about all our benefits today, like our 24/7 support and service,
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the report and the governor have been trashing wildstein and bridget kelly from the beginning. because they're preparing for the day that wildstein and bridget kelly do get immunity and say that governor christie either authorized this traffic closure or knew about it and didn't do anything to stop it. so they're trashing them now. they paint wildstein as being unbalanced. now bridget kelly is emotional, and she is unbalanced. they're creating the atmosphere so they can say, you know, these two people are just talking to save their own skin. they're unbalanced. you can't trust them. and that's what this is all about. i have no doubt about it at all. >> now, liz, you talked about the governor being a bully, a known for being a bully. >> right. >> his tone was definitely different today than it was the humble kind of laid back person we saw 76 days ago when he did a press conference. he was repeatedly combative with reporters. listen to this. >> stop. you have to get the facts right if you're going to ask me a question. it's nice that you eventually got to the question. but premi
the report and the governor have been trashing wildstein and bridget kelly from the beginning. because they're preparing for the day that wildstein and bridget kelly do get immunity and say that governor christie either authorized this traffic closure or knew about it and didn't do anything to stop it. so they're trashing them now. they paint wildstein as being unbalanced. now bridget kelly is emotional, and she is unbalanced. they're creating the atmosphere so they can say, you know, these two...
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very objectionable and questionable that they interviewed 70 people, and the key people, stepien, wildstein, baroni, kelly, samson were not in the report. certainly i don't think we need to spend a million dollars to find out we needed port authority transparency reform. we've done that two years ago in the legislature and he vetoed that. we did that for nothing, quite frankly.
very objectionable and questionable that they interviewed 70 people, and the key people, stepien, wildstein, baroni, kelly, samson were not in the report. certainly i don't think we need to spend a million dollars to find out we needed port authority transparency reform. we've done that two years ago in the legislature and he vetoed that. we did that for nothing, quite frankly.
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you have david wildstein. you have bill stepien who all will not talk. and to the assemblywoman's point, i think you're never going to be able to conclude this investigation unless you get those people to talk. >> unless there are charges made. >> exactly. . unless the u.s. attorney comes out and charges people. here is the other point i would make. if the u.s. attorney drops his investigation with no charges, which is possible. nobody really knows where that thing stands and what their focus, where do you go from there? the investigative committee may be able to compel bridget kelly and bill stepien to turn over their documents, but they may not. they may lose that case. where do you go from there? i think that's the problem. back to your point. in all of these things, there is a bit of a he-said, she-said. and when he or she in that equation isn't talking, it's tough to get to the answers. >> well, i'm hoping there is some legal action at least to get to the truth. it may be the only way we get a perry mason moment here. thank you so much, and assembly
you have david wildstein. you have bill stepien who all will not talk. and to the assemblywoman's point, i think you're never going to be able to conclude this investigation unless you get those people to talk. >> unless there are charges made. >> exactly. . unless the u.s. attorney comes out and charges people. here is the other point i would make. if the u.s. attorney drops his investigation with no charges, which is possible. nobody really knows where that thing stands and what...
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one, david wildstein. he told the governor about the lane closures at the 9/11 memorial event but governor christie says he doesn't remember that. then there's bridge it kelly, the one-time chief of staff. she sent the e-mail, time for problems for fort lee. the city's mayor had not endorsed the governor but they claim there's zero evidence the targeting had to do with the nonendorsement. governor christie denied any involvement in the of this, and we have not seen any evidence that links him directly or indirectly to the lane closures. the new jersey taxpayers are picking up the tab for this investigation. christie's administration hiring a lawyer to investigate the administration for $1 million. eric shawne has details. >> reporter: 345 pages, paid for by the taxpayers of new jersey, and during the news conference today, lead lawyer says there is no evidence implicating the governor at all. no texts, e-mails, and the governor denied any involvement. >> there's not a shred, not a shred of hard evidence th
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wildstein that's gone to the committee again. there's nothing to show he had anything to do with it. >> there's the e-mail to the governor where he marks up an exit statement for a man the governor said he barely new. that was weeks later. is he so involved in crafting an exit statement for david wildstein, yet had no knowledge. it's far too early to draw conclusions about who knew what in this investigation. >> but no key testimony, why not leave it to the u.s. attorney? >> we don't know what we're going to get. we are waiting for judge jacobsen's decision. we ought to wait for that decision. we ought to look at the documents. we're still going through thousands of pages of documents. this report draws a lot of conclusions and speculation. there's no foot notes to testimony that was taken or interviews that were taken. this report really rushes a judgment that's too early to make. >> okay. mr. assemblyman, thanks so much for joining us. randy master joins us now. you heard mr. wisnieski said it's a rush to judgment. >> we looked
wildstein that's gone to the committee again. there's nothing to show he had anything to do with it. >> there's the e-mail to the governor where he marks up an exit statement for a man the governor said he barely new. that was weeks later. is he so involved in crafting an exit statement for david wildstein, yet had no knowledge. it's far too early to draw conclusions about who knew what in this investigation. >> but no key testimony, why not leave it to the u.s. attorney? >>...
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this is key that there was in fact a backdrop to why people like bridget kelly and wildstein would tryo punish or push or whatever, manipulate the mayor of fort lee. here it is. the master report rejects any notion there was a culture of retaliation. but documents deep within the report raise questions. in one we learn christie's campaign did keep a list of approved targets. these were democratic mayors they wanted to endorse the governor, including fort lee mayor mark sokolich. >> right, right. >> and then this july conversation where christie's campaign manager bill stepien writes to mike dehaim, quote, we're approaching a point in time where we have the so what it's going to be conversation with hoboken mayor dawn zimmer and jersey city mayor steve fulp. the argument that there was no evidence that the governor was after the marry or ready to push him there is there now. we have it. >> randy mastro has said with this report they're draw nothing conclusions as to why mark sokolich, the mayor of fort lee was argued the. but democrats have talked to today, you know, they've certainly m
this is key that there was in fact a backdrop to why people like bridget kelly and wildstein would tryo punish or push or whatever, manipulate the mayor of fort lee. here it is. the master report rejects any notion there was a culture of retaliation. but documents deep within the report raise questions. in one we learn christie's campaign did keep a list of approved targets. these were democratic mayors they wanted to endorse the governor, including fort lee mayor mark sokolich. >> right,...
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that is a picture of christie and wildstein. there's never any question about the fact they met there. there's a real question about whey they said and what christie said in defense of him, if he said we're doing a traffic study, he said i wouldn't have remembered that. the question is, did he say we're doing a traffic study because we want to get back at the mayor? >> when this is other there will probably be no smoking gun, and the decision the voters will have to make is is that okay? that there's no smoker gun. >> attacking the media, smart thing to do, fair thing to do. attacking and smearing bridget kelly, not smart. >> thank you, panel. see you next week. up next, our power player of the week. an unforgettable 10-year-old girl who inspired everyone around her and even got congress to act. i promise you don't want to miss this. e, you don't want to miss this. >>> it's become a cliche to say nothing gets done in washington, but this is a story of a remarkable little girl who spurred politicians to put aside their difference
that is a picture of christie and wildstein. there's never any question about the fact they met there. there's a real question about whey they said and what christie said in defense of him, if he said we're doing a traffic study, he said i wouldn't have remembered that. the question is, did he say we're doing a traffic study because we want to get back at the mayor? >> when this is other there will probably be no smoking gun, and the decision the voters will have to make is is that okay?...