the question i had i called the wilkesboro question, after wilkes-barre, pennsylvania. is a but here from wilkesboro? no kidding? unbelievable. unbelievable. there was nobody in wilkes-barre in san francisco last week. i can tell you right now. [laughter] the population of contemporary wilkes-barre is slightly larger than the population of virginia was in 1776. now, if we go out there to wilkes-barre, do you think we could find george washington, thomas jefferson, james madison, george mason, john marshall and patrick henry? we ain't going to find it. now, at some theoretical level they are there. that is, human beings with the capacity for leadership are there, but the situation doesn't permit that group to rise to the surface. and so the question is, why did the situation exist in 1776? now, there is the point be an answer to this, after arnold toynbee, which is that great leadership only emerges during times of great crisis. and this makes eminent sense. the pressures of the crisis creates. and yet we can all think of examples where there's a great crisis and there's