wilkinson and burr to reach an agreement. and that agreement, the content of which was the subject of much lying, much inquiry, and still disputation today was what drove the story. but if i go back here, burr dropped in on wilkinson here in the ohio river at fort messick on the way down and then when he was coming back up it goes way out of his way to see wilkinson again in st. louis. now during this journey, burr tells, follows a certain narrative in his leaders. we have a number of accounts of what he would say. because of course he never explained himself afterwards. you don't get a memoir from aaron burr. it certainly sounded like he was telling them they should rebel. he also told them that the separation of the western rest of the country was inevitable. he didn't tell them to do it. he just said it was inevitable. he said that a war with spain was highly desirable so we can get all those two spanish lands. he also talked about mexico with the romantic lyrical way. you have to appreciate how americans view to mexico at

and it turned out wilkinson was a very dangerous baffoon. wilkinson and burr do reach an agreement. and that agreement, the content of which is the subject of much lying, much inquiry and still disputation today, was what drove the story. but if i go back here, burr dropped in on wilkinson here in the ohio river on the way down, and then when he was coming back up, he goes way out of his way to see wilkinson again in st. louis. now, during this journey burr tells, follows a certain narrative in the his meetings. we have a number of accounts of how, what he would say. because, of course, he never explained himself afterwards. you don't get a memoir from aaron burr. so he told the westerners that the atlantic states were oppressing and exploiting the western states. that the west in 1805 was like the atlantic states in 1776 at the time of the revolution. well, it certainly sounds like he was telling them they should rebel. he also told them that the separation of the west from the rest of the country was inevitable. he didn't tell them to do it, he just said it was inevitable. he said

and it turned out wilkinson was very dangerous. they do reach in a great -- that an agreement the content of which is subject of much lying on the inquiry, in still in dispute c today is what drove the story. but if i go back, aaron burr dropped in on wilkinson in the ohio river on the way down than when he comes back up he goes out of his way to see him again in st. louis.up i during this journey burr follows a certain narrative. we have a number of accounts of what he would say. ce a course he never explains himself after words. you don't get in demar from a river. he told westerners semantics states were of pressing and exploiting the western states 18 '05 as ic atlantic states at the time of the revolution 1776. it sounded like he was telling them they showed rovell. also the separation from the west wasth inevitable. he did not tell them to do but it was inevitable. and a war with spain was highly desirable so we could get the good spanish land.ed he also talked about mexico in a romantic way and you have to appreciate how ame

general wilkinson danced with the devil and escaped another court-martial for the failed st. lawrence campaign before heading back to the intrigue of the southwest. winfield scott received the news of piece one rank shy of his goal and would have to wait awhile before obtaining his wish of three stars and lieutenant general. two generals rode the war of 1812 to the presidency, though harrison died of pneumonia a month after his inauguration. the other general was andrew jackson. old hickory received a plurality of the popular vote for president three times. being denied the office the first time in 1824 after failing to win a majority of the electoral college. in between that day on the plain at chalmet and the 1824 election, jackson took the lead in wrestling the floridas away from spain. biographer robblets remny recounts the story that a woman in north carolina where he had grown up ex-claimed, what? jackson up for president? jackson, andrew jackson, the jackson that used to live next door in salisbury? if andrew jackson can be president, anybody can. such was the power of

wilkinson gets accused of a lot of things. burr was in europe. i think it is hard to tar him with that one. and lewis' death was mysterious although there is a lot of evidence that he just killed himself bing despond them. wilkinson was accused of poisoning mad anthony wayne -- matt anthony wayne the great general and has been tarred with the lewis story. i've not seen at the -- any evidence. .. the american blood that we especially as we hear it again in this space. >> okay. that's a lot. just to deal with that quickly if i can come of the new england session was economically motivated, and was because of the embargo that was in place in the economy during the war 1812 and they didn't support the war. i still think it was very important that he failed and secession was put in. he was viewed as the worst criminal in history other than mcdonald. of course when the southern slavery issue reached, secession came back but when you look at the previous period once the succession is in the activity as a plan ready to see a difference jefferson's inacti

wilkinson? why would you not then pass that information along to the attorney general?at's what the questions have been asked to all the people. he's no longer in the office of the attorney general. martha: right. >> we have been asking the question of all these questions, and we are going to continue to ask. that's why we're having this hearing on thursday. we want to know exactly what the attorney general new. now we have the information that the chief of staff found out the day after terry's death and had information with the attorney general, how could he come to congress and tell us he didn't know anything about fast and furious and didn't know anything about the death of brian terry, or the link between fast and furious and the death of brian terry jo that is the big questio. martha: that is the big question in my mind. why wouldn't he translate that information while he was telling him all this other stuff. euflt doesn't makit doesn't make a whole lot of sense. basically the department of justice is saying that the information was never transmitted to the attorne

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wilkinson was accused of poisoning mad anthony wayne -- matt anthony wayne the great general and has been tarred with the lewis story. i've not seen at the -- any evidence. .. he wasn't particularly concerned about that. about the session and as he said, the unintended consequence is worth i.t. make concession, that seems like he was so popular. as you mentioned is in new york. you think about the federalists and the harper commission talking about it as well. did they think about the session in constitutional terms are just as some thing that is in the american blood, that they essentially again.lod tha >> okay, well that is a lot. i'll feel better quickly if i can.just to deal the session was w economically motivated of the new england session was economically motivated, and was because of the embargo that was in place in the economy during the war 1812 and they didn't support the war. i still think it was very important that he failed and secession was put in. he was viewed as the worst criminal in history other than mcdonald. of course when the southern slavery issue reached, sec

the report clears all the king's men including top aides lanny breuer, lonnie wilkinson, jason weinsteinttorney general himself, eric holder. and top executives at the atf, ken nelson, billy hoover, bill mcmahon. all these guys either did not know or could not recall being told that the atf was deliberately and knowingly helping send illegal guns to mexico as part of an agency strategy to go after the cartels. instead, the report blames three assistant u.s. attorneys in phoenix and their counterparts at the atf in phoenix for unnecessarily prolonging the case, lying or failing to explicitly say what they were doing. and, therefore, the top people are not responsible for what they did not know. the report's three main findings are this, jenna. number one, fast and furious was not the first operation of this kind, that the atf did it three times before under president bush. secondly, no high-level political appointees at the department of justice conceived or directed the operation. and, finally, that this was not a politically-motivated case to justify stricter gun laws in the u.s. the re

and clears all the major players in washington including lanny breuer, gary grindler, lonnie will wilkinson, all close aides of eric holder, and ken nelson, billy hoover and bill mcmahon as the top team at atf. according to the report all these guys either didn't know or couldn't recall being told these guns were deliberately going to mexico. martha? martha: so how does that square with the evidence in this case? is that true? >> reporter: well, it is if you believe their version of events, republicans don't. documents show many of these guys received weekly reports that showed hundreds of guns were being bought every week and ending up in mexico. agents tell me it's impossible for a career law enforcement guy not to conclude that this was being done on purpose, otherwise, of course, they'd be in jail. the report claims that these assistant u.s. attorneys and the atf brass in phoenix unnecessarily prolonged the case, lied or failed to explain exactly what they were doing. back to you. martha: all right. william, thank you. bill: she says she has not endorsed anyone, but sarah palin giving a