willem buiter is with us. made very clear at the council on foreign relations, he has been surprised at how they have worked. they have done better than good. what happens if japan and other nations go even more negative? willem: well, they are likely to do so. it will ask further on liquid asset prices. especially on the exchange rate. through the exchange rate on stock prices, on longer yields. it is just another very conventional monetary policy. tom: what is the unexpected consequence that we get out of something that is not in the economic textbooks? only -- the economic textbooks only work if there is no limit as to how low interest rates can go. tom: have we tested yet, bringing negative rates in -- have we tested that threshold or critical point where you get a jump in condition if you bring a negative exchange rates? willem: it is still not happen. --y carry cost of currency insurance, storage, safety -- the debt is really more than 75 basis points, i do not know. but we will find out. tom: caroline?