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illinois, known as the land of lincoln but few know the story of william -- billy the barber, lincoln'sck barber, had some amount of influence on lincoln particularly in his views on race. here again in the chapter lincoln and the negro, this one written by robert lucas, on the screen here. late one evening in the fall of 1831 outside the evening of new salem, carrying an ax on his shoulder. stories here just not telling straight history. the tall man learned he was a barber, nearly out of money and heading for springfield introduced the young negro to his boardinghouse, the rutledge tavern and obtained him for anything's work. in this way a close friendship was born between the two, but although he resumed his journey to springfield, the french were later reunited. and continue, lincoln spent much of his spare time at the barbershop where there was always a crowd. he picked up a client, lincoln's actions as president recognizing the independence of haiti and offer of free passage for any negro who wished to go and live there. keep in mind lincoln actually supported pollinization. somet