shock this nation with the power of love. >> so, these two years later, when i spoke here with william barberasked him about finding the compassionate side, the moral imperative amidst all the trump era tumult. reverend barber, welcome to the program. >> thank you so much, christiane. >> listen, i am fascinated by one of the things you've written recently. i mean, you've named all the challenges that many communities around the states face since president trump's election. but you said this is actually a moment and we see the result of activism and pushing back and you feel that this is an opportunity. is that right? >> i do. i think that in some ways with trump we see kind of a reliving of the -- i call it kind of the horror of 1968 when the southern strategy began. kevin phillips and richard nixon and they decided that they were going to win election by finding out who hated who, who was afraid of who and engage in what they call positive polarization. so, trump really has been speaking to an audience that's been cultivated for 50 years. but in some sense, what he has actually done is awake

william barber, co-chair of the poor people's campaign in 2018. you very much. >> thank you so much.u. thank a woodruff: finally, we return to our honor roll ricans killed during u.s. military operations overseas. tonight,yria and afghanistan. we add them as their deaths are made official and photographs become available. here, in silence, are five more. and that's the newshour for tonight. i'm judy woouff. join us online and again here tomorrow evening. for all of us at the pbs newshour, thank you and see you soon. >> major funding for the pbsur newsho has been provided by: >> babbel. a language app that teaches real-life conversations in a new language, like spanish, french, german, italian, and more. babbel's 10-15 minute lessons are available as an app, or online. more information on babbel.com. > nd by the alfred p. sloan foundation. supporting science, technology, and improved economic performance and financial literacy in the 21st cenry. >> supported by the john d. and catherine t. macarthur foundation. comm just, verdant and peaceful world

>> you're going to want to stay tuned for thing two in 60 seconds. >>> so reverend william barber spoke at an event honoring martin luther king can, following the governor and barber was just not having any of it. >> politicians can't say they love dr. king and how he stood for love and unity but then you deny and refuses to support his agenda. right, governor? i mean since you came, so let me show you what i mean, governor. dr. king would have been for a wall. how many of y'all not against a wall? politician, everybody and we'll tell donald trump you don't need to be building a wall to separate people. we need be spending money to get people health care. now stand on your feet. now everybody who doesn't stand on your feet, you get to see. wait a minute. how many folk in here believe like dr. king that everybody ought to have what teddy roosevelt, a republican, asked for 100 years ago and that's your health care for every citizen? everybody believe that, stand up. now if you can't stand up for that, then don't say you love dr. king. no, that ain't no. that's not no navajo name. that's l

. >> joining me now is bishop william barber, co-chair of the poor people's campaign. bishop, thank you for joining us on this mlk day. i know it's a busy day for you. >> thank you. >> talk it is about what you're reflecting on today considering the political climate we're facing with the long of the government shutdown and also, of course, celebrating the man martin luther king jr. >> you know, in a real sense you don't celebrate prophets, you join them and you join them in whatever they were doing when they died or when they were martyred. dr. king was focusing on the evils of racism and poverty and militarism. we look at the government shutdown, which is something trump and others wanted to do anyway. they said they wanted to deconstruct the administrative state. but it's all of the poor people, people hurting at the bottom whose lives are being unrattled because of the irresponsibility of the shutdown but not only is he shut down there and in terms of words, he shut down moving forward in health care, even though we have 37 million people without health care. he sh

joining me now is bishop william barber, co-chairman of the poor people's campaign and author of "reviveain." bishop, wonderful to see you as always. and this op-ed that donald trump -- that mitt romney wrote criticizing donald trump, you pointed out that it was really about manners. it was about trump's morality. it was about trump's words, but that he had little to say about what donald trump negatively. expound on that a bit. >> the problem with what romney is saying is saying i disagree with the moral way trump is saying things. and if you look at the scriptures, look at the prophets, they weren't -- they didn't criticize people based on what they said. they criticized them based on what they did. jesus talked about preaching good news to the poorment he said, woe unto those religious and political leaders who leave undone the weighty matters of the law, justice, mercy, faithfully, and love. isiah said woe up to those who legislate evil and rob the poor of their rights. romney in essence is saying if he was just nie nicer with his s i'm still in agreement with his policies. that's da

the best example of lincoln's solicitude for black staff members is his treatment of william johnson, a valet/barber who accompanied the first family on their journey from springfield to washington in 1861. at first, johnson worked at the executive mansion as a porter, but the other african-american employees, who were all light-skinned, objected to his dark complexion so vehemently, lincoln reassigned him as furnace keeper and handyman, and tried to find him another post outside the white house. to secretary wells, he wrote in 1861, "the bearer that is william is a servant who has been with me for some time and in whom i have confidence as to his integrity and faithfulness. he wishes to enter your service. the difference of color between him and the other servants is the cause of our separation. if you can give him employment, you will confer a favor on yours truly." lincoln landed him a job at the treasury department and to enable him to earn extra money, the president facilitated his efforts to moonlight for others and johnson continued to work at the white house off and on. when johnson borrowed