then they managed to get away to lyden a few years and after that were people like william brewster, and william bradford, and other guys, who are very passionate. there were very staunch practitioners of the puritan faith. so they were led back into whoand, by james the first, then gave them his blessing, to get them out of the country. he said they could go to the new world. they could go to the americas. providing come i think he said, that they treated themselves respectably. were in and out of england and then down to the ships. fortunately, not being chased or executed, by the king, but gently encouraged to go somewhere else. bob stone, thank you.

william brewster, bradford, a woman who gave birth during the transit. also john howland was a servant of the governor on board the ship and he has amazing stories. he fell overboard during the 66-day crossing of the atlantic, but managed miraculously to grab a rope and pulled himself back on board. if he had not done that, george w bush and george bush would never have existed because they are descendents of john howland. the relatives and descendents, if we can make avatars tell their story, how fantastic that would be? so we are going into the stern of the ship. that structure was designed to pull in wires and rope and secure secure the ship and various pieces of cargo coming onto the ship. the main deck here is where you have the steerage office. that is a capstan. you can see the stick on the left. that was a small stick that controlled the rudder, the steerage of the ship. then you have the captain's cabin, obviously the best cabin on the ship. he had his own little bed. this is where we believe that mayflower compact and which bradford had a large

william brewster proffer, the lady she give birth to, the child was born during the actual transit. also john hogg wind, he was a server of the governor on board. he fell overboard, during the 66 days across the atlantic. but managed, miraculously to grab a rope and pull himself back on board. if he had not done that, and george w. bush would never have ever existed, he is a desert descended of john hoagland. some of these guys, some of the relatives and the descendants today, if we can make these amateurs tell their story, how fantastic that would be. so there we have, we are going into this turn of the ship. that particular structure there which is designed to pull in wires and ropes and to be able to secure the ship and secure various pieces of cargo coming off of the ship. this is the main deck, this is where you have the steerage office. that is called the capstan, if you go towards the tiny cramped cabins captain, on the left, you can see the stick, that is a very small stick that control the rather. the steerage of the ship. and then you have the captains cabin. then you go t

william brewster at his death owned over 400 volumes. i have no idea where he put them in a house of that size, the fact is there is no evidence other than a few books here and there. who did haveple extensive libraries, quite a few of them, certainly brewster and bradford and myles standish and some of the clergymen and so forth. dr. minkema: thank you. we have a question from stephen, who asks, why is it only bradford's history remains when the other person -- i guess he is referring to winslow -- has more detailed accounts of their experiences? i guess it would help to clarify shat and say how winslow' accounts are available. dr. bremer: winslow -- and feel -- thatadd to this winslow published his first accounts in 1624, they are detailed because they are dealing with a more compressed period of time. some of his later works like his attack on similar morton and such are addressing similar issues. he never set out to write an entire history of the experience of the pilgrims. he was writing about certain events, and as a result, he cou

were people like william brewster, and william bradford, and other guys, who are very passionate. there were very staunch practitioners of the puritan faith. so they were led back into whoand, by james the first, then gave them his blessing, to get them out of the country. he said they could go to the new world. they could go to the americas. providing come i think he said, that they treated themselves respectably. were in and out of england and then down to the ships. fortunately, not being chased or executed, by the king, but gently encouraged to go somewhere else. bob stone, thank you. hear from thell plimoth patuxet deputy executive director richard pickering told and about the origins of the mayflower compact. i plimoth patuxet deputy am executive director richard pickering. themter by the name gives the name pilgrim fathers. they are still called this today. we as americans tend to call them pilgrims. the reason that this is cited is because william bradford refers to them as pilgrims. pilgrims,p" but lowercase. we need to remember that they did not have a group identity. th

william? >> yes. are you ready, master brewster? master brewster: aye, we are ready. william: the king's guards will soon be on their rounds. we will leave this building as if we were still here. >> is that we didn't have to leave our homes to live with strangers in a strange land. >> to live free in a free land. >> but how? >> as we did here. as the lord wills, so shall we live. come. it is time. >> and so began our pilgrimage. in the darkness of night, like thieves, some 200 others took leave of our homeland and pursued freedom elsewhere. making ourururururthe only friendly land we knew, the low country behind the dyke, holland. the dutch were good people and were kind to us, yet we were strangers among them. our life was not easy. for 12 buts, we did all willingly in the end, it was the suffering of our dearest children which so moved our hearts. so oppressed were they by the heavy labors which our poor conditions laid upon them. in more than this, we feared they were becoming strangers to us, their loving parents. what we might do we did not know but do something w

winthrop, aby john different sort of man then elder brewster, william bradford. he is a lawyer for one thing. he has a rather checkered career and massachusetts bay being deposed,overnor, being and being elected again as it is a literal fortunes go up and down and england. massachusetts bay at the city of boston are kind of the powerhouse and literally tens of thousands of people come in waves from old england to new england. they tend to settled there. the plymouth colony is a smaller enterprise. that first and i believe compact is responsive of things to come later. we should remember that. when we speak of the [indiscernible]war we speak of things like that. there are different communities and themselves and strangers among them. section, wouldng you like to comment on anything else we can learn as americans today from the mayflower compact that has perhaps been overlooked? >> if i make go first, i will try to be brief. i have alluded to the constitutional legacy of the mayflower compact and i do not want to make too much of it but when we look even at the str

brewster in madison, wisconsin. thank you so much for your reporting there. and for spending some time with us. >>> joining us now is williamser to the cdc and one of my most favorite people to talk to about the stuff that really matters. and i guess my question for you is, it is obvious why things like wearing masks and canceling holiday gatherings and eating indoors are so politically charged when you have the president and his press secretary and chief of staff refusing to wear mask and convening massive gatherings throughout the course of the campaign. but i know for a fact that every parent in an emergency room with their sick child or at a doctor's office with a sick parent doesn't care about politics, or about your politics or about anything partisan. and so i'm curious what your theory is now that so many people are sick, why are these things still to political? >> nicolle, you're speaking from the heart as well as your mind. both of those things are involved. you know, i've learned from my psychology friends that when people have a very strong opinion and then they encounter facts that are contrary to that opinion,