a charitable group auctioned off in evening with william f buckley -- off an evening with william f buckley. as i was giving a book talk, mailer's daughter came up to me and said, i know all about that speech. let me tell you about it. it was auctioned off in the evening with buckley. here to auction off the hour with an intellectual in sling -- inch ling the pride of conservatism -- he goes increasingly buckley with words, i am happy to see the successful bidder will receive a full hour of conservation -- conversation with buckley in his new york home. we must breathe deep, and prepared to bid up our wallet for the right to be received by that exponent. that natural practitioner. that sears seeker of the cia. phenomenally -- if you have a taste for tongue tallying with america's own columnist some of the upper yahoo! from yale, mr. william f buckley and his doing. -- gang. after the auction, mailer sent buckley a clean copy of the speech. dear bill, yours to frame or flip away. buckley responded immediately, dear norman, thanks a million for the text of the introduction, which i shall atte

william f buckley and his doing. -- gang. after the auction, mailer sent buckley a clean copy of the speech. dear bill, yours to frame or flip away. buckley responded immediately, dear norman, thanks a million for the text of the introduction , which i shall attempt to decipher as soon as i find myself next to a substantial dictionary. i have not yet met the highest bidder, but i shall attempt to sound as you would have me sound. left me soon as ever, bill. thank you ray much. -- thank you very much. [applause] we have a few minutes. we have about 10 minutes i guess for questions. i am happy, happy, happy to answer anything. >> good morning. would you share your thoughts on how these two individuals exchanged their understanding on integration of public education? prof schultz: how did the exchange their information on integration of public education? you want to throw buckley under the bus, i see. had very actually troubling views on black people. they did. ways to ourrrifying eyes today. fetishized,, mailer i'm using that w

1960's were influenced by 2 friends from opposite ends of the political spectrum, conservative william buckley and liberal norman mailer. throughout the 1960's, in public and in their writings, they debated america's political affairs, including vietnam, civil rights, and of the cold war. scholz describes their political differences and close relationships in his book, "buckley and mailer: the difficult friendship that shaped the 1960's." this is part of a day long summit at grand valley state in, grand rapids michigan. >>

1960's were influenced by 2 friends from opposite ends of the political spectrum, conservative william buckley and liberal norman mailer. throughout the 1960's, in public and in their writings, they debated america's political affairs, including vietnam, civil rights, and of the cold war. scholz describes their political differences and close relationships in his book, "buckley and mailer: the difficult friendship that shaped the 1960's." this is part of a day long summit at grand valley state in, grand rapids michigan. >> good morning everyone. i am program manager of the common ground initiative. i am pleased to usher in our first sessiod

william buckley, the person who is mentioned earlier, a conservative, was in favor of that. ronald reagan was against it. here is a little bit of a debate that ronald reagan and buckley had. i would like you to listen as to him reagan site -- whom reagan cites. this is almost a decade after eisenhower passed away. >> i also know that a president you did not mention that was engaged in the problems in panama, president eisenhower. he told me that the idea he had for the treaty was smart and different, anything in these treaties -- as a matter of fact, he was toying with the idea of forming an international corporation of shipping nations in the world, that they would meet with all participating and using those canals, and so there would be no possibility of one taking over the trade. he told me that. gene: of course again, it is the two of them discussing foreign affairs. to think of all the different areas of the world that reagan is discussing my being mentored by dwight eisenhower. during the campaign, reagan was asked them who is your favorite president? he answered, you c

this is why conservatism can help move america forward and we teach them about william buckley, ronalderial and go up and go debate the professor and tell them why they're wrong on these liberal policies and that's where it starts. >> i just wish there really was americanism out there, eric. i think both parties have it wrong. the left, i am my brother's keeper. right, it's all about country first, the whole part of americanism you own your life. it's your life, your liberty, your happiness. you're not a sacrifice -- >> i think the kids have a lot of debt because of college tuition debt and worried about health care, don't always have coverage and that's why you see them saying -- this is not brainwashing. it's reality. >> america is exceptional and it will continuing to be exceptional. >>> coming up, actor scott baio joins us next. i wonder what scott thinks about george clooney saying this. >> there's not going to be a president donald trump. (sfx: glass breaking) (sfx:footsteps running) ♪music nice going spencer. i can't believe we broke old man hennessey's window correction dude, y

william f buckley was a well-known conservative during this time. a national program called firing line. he interviewed ronald reagan. ronald reagan was a fellow conservative. they were discussing various things. then buckley asked reagan dwight -- asked reagan why dwight d. eisenhower did not dismantle the new deal. i think he expected ronald reagan to agree with him and criticize eisenhower. but i would like you to listen to how immediately ronald reagan comes to the defense of his mentor, dwight eisenhower. >> the very fact that he did not -- that this is overlooked a great deal. [indiscernible] i would answer that in only one term in eight years did he have -- he was isolated behind a democratic congress -- ying on a philosophy [indiscernible] gene: i think that buckley was surprised. immediately, reagan came to eisenhower's defense. reagan was being thought of as a potential vice presidential nominee. to be paired, often discussed with new york governor nelson rockefeller, a liberal republican. one magazine cover showed the two of them, but eis

they kidnapped william buckley.e embassy's contact man for the rival christian and muslim factions. he is the third american to be kidnapped in beirut in six weeks. >> and it kept happening. it was not all at one go. they were taken many months apart but kept adding up and adding up. it consumed the reagan presidency. >> every day, almost every day he'd ask his national security teams, intelligence briefers, any news on the hostages. is anything happening? is there something we can do? >> there's a chink in reagan's armor. he was soft-hearted and felt a sense of obligation that he had to do something to get them out. t-mobile is going big for small business. you'll never get charged data overages, ever. get your own 24 / 7 dedicated business account team. and with double the lte coverage in the last year you can get more done in more places. right now get 2 lines with 10 gigs each for just a $100 bucks. and for a limited time get a hot spot free, yeah free. switch your business to t-mobile@work today. which means fe

they kidnapped william buckley.t man for the rival christian and muslim factions. he is the third american to be kidnapped in beirut in six weeks. >> and it kept happening. it was not all at one go. they were taken many months apart but kept adding up and adding up. it consumed the reagan presidency. >> every day, almost every day he'd ask his national security teams, intelligence briefers, any news on the hostages. is anything happening? is there something we can do? >> there's a chink in reagan's armor. he was soft-hearted and felt a sense of obligation that he had to do something to get them out. words no one even knows. but everyone knows cheese. cracker barrel has won awards for their delicious cheddar and they put that cheddar in a new macaroni & cheese. can you spell delicious? delicious. d. e. l... gomery and abigail higgins had... ...a tree that bore the most rare and magical fruit. which provided for their every financial need. and then, in one blinding blink of an eye, their tree had given its last. but w

what's intriguing is the way the birch society was created at the time by william buckley and the national review, and barry goldwater who felt that because the birch society had become so notorious with the acquisition of eisenhower being a communist, that welch had to be right out of the conservative movement, echoes of mr. trump, right? the way in which the conservatives today, the national review, for example, has said donald trump is not a real conservative, he should not represent the conservative movement. so there's some interesting parallels there your goldwater and buckley as well went to some pains to say many of my best friends are members of the birch society, they are upstanding citizens, respectable americans. but robert welch should resign as head of the birch society. thank you. >> can't help but reminded of the use made in a different nation at a different time but i think horse vessel was the least a nazi. >> do you want to comment on that? >> no. i believe that as a comment. any other questions? >> wait for the microphone and please state your name. [inaudible] this was

they kidnapped william buckley.the rival christian and muslim factions. he is the third american to be kidnapped in beirut in six weeks. >> and it kept happening. it was not all at one go. they were taken many months apart but kept adding up and adding up. it consumed the reagan presidency. >> every day, almost every day he'd ask his national security teams, intelligence briefers, is there any news on the hostages? is anything happening? is there something we can do? >> there's a chink in reagan's armor. he was soft-hearted and felt a sense of obligation that he had to do something to get them out. ♪ one♪coat, yes! one coat guaranteed marquee interior. behr's most advanced paint. come find our top rated paints, only at the home depot. i am a lot of things. i am her best friend. i am her ally. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to her current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and ma

number one thing conservatives need to do right now is regroup under the vision of a man like a william buckleywho we no longer have, and elect good solid conservatives to the senate and congress. if we do that we'll be able to control hillary clinton if she gets the election or persuade donald trump to govern as a conservative. >> let's talk about what you were referring to with regard to william weld and the fact he has supported abortion. ted cruz is going to pressure donald trump to adhere to the party plat form on abortion. what's this indicate? what's senator cruz going do do with donald trump over deserve issues at the convention? >> force donald trump to take a stand. trump comes out and says he wants to water down the republican platform. i have a litmus test for candidates. i don't support proabortion candidates. that's a key part of the republican party platform. come convention time that republican party platform is going to be up for debate. what people forget is the republican party is not about annointing one man. it's about the principles of the party. that's what this is going

what's intriguing is the way the birch society is treated at the time by william buckley in the national review and barry goldwater who felt that because the birch society had become so notorious, there was the acquisition of eisenhower been a communism is that welch had to be read out of the commonest, out of the conservative movement, echoes of mr. trump, right? the way in which the conservatives today, a national review, for example, has said all trump is not a real conservative, he should not represent the conservative movement. so there's some kind of interesting parallels there. goldwater went to, and buckley as well, went to some pains to say many of my best friends are members of the birch society and they are upstanding citizens, respectable americans to the robert welch should resign as head of the birch society. >> i can't help but be reminded of the use made in a different nation at a different time but i think it was at least a nazi. >> do you want to come at? >> no. >> i believe that as a comment. any other questions. yes. wait for the mic. >> i stumbled on this lecture so

very different times but what is intriguing the way the birch society is treated at the time by william buckleyh "the national review" and barry goldwater who felt it had become so notorious that welsh had to be written out of the conservative movement as goes mr. trump because of the conservatives today like "the national review" has said donald trump is not a real conservative he should not represent the conservative movement so there is an interesting parallel. goldwater in buckley went to great lengths to say they are upstanding american citizens but welch should resign as the head of the society. >>. >> about was that and not see? >> guest: to comment? note. [laughter] >> please state your name. en what about those three americans they were taken to yemen ended to two months for them to make the journey pretty arduous with a detailed report with the territory they were passing through. one of them had some very positive comments the other was more negative when they reached their today apologized for the death of john birch we're sorry it is an accident and then we went to india and back t

william buckley eight, when he says i have a quarrel with others, we right rhetoric, but out of the quarrelwith ourselves we write poetry. when you internalize some pain, you can actually construct an extraordinary work of art if you have the good fortune to do so. so i mean, i think that these are difficulties that they have to be voice, they have to be shared. but that doesn't mean that one can't write and write very well. i know this doesn't directly address the issue of mfa programs, which is our topic, but i think it is not a relevant. just as donna said, you can go to the program which may be largely white, but you may actually find people whom you retrieve. i think the democratic spin this country, in the united states to face her year or maybe irony there was a so-called minorities are actually the majority. this is an amazing misnomer if you think about what the population as and i think these wonderful connections we can make a train multiple ethnic cities and languages and history are all very, area important. >> did you want to add anything to that? >> about maintaining voice. a

buckley, a radiant, shooting star, who lit up the sky, and ill rusher, a never-wavering northstar, by which conservatives learned to chart their political course. many have written about william f buckley junior, that irresistible renaissance man, but nobody but david frisk has given us an in-depth portrait of william a.ill, rusher, who among other salutary and contributions, played a pivotal role in the life of a national draft goldwater committee. and that was critical, because if there had been no draft goldwater committee, there would have been no presidential candidate barry goldwater in 1964. if there had been no candidate goldwater in 1964, there would have been no president-elect, ronald reagan, in a 1980. it was goldwater, you see, what famous time for choosing, the tv address that made him a political star overnight, and made his run for governor of california, and eventually, president of these united states. david recounts how bill rusher shored up the goldwater committee with -- when money ran short and the spirit sacked. youngully guided americans for freedom in his early, chaotic days. some order and discipline against the blithe spirits who ran "national revie

you look at the intellectual collapse of the conservative movement, the fading of giants like william f. buckley, the replacements of per vaers of blogs that -- it's all collapsed. >> who won? did mark levine win? who are these people? >> mark levine is crying tonight. he's a series a round investor in the demise of the conservative movement in the republican party. a woman calls up his show and has the gall to disagree with him who calls himself the great one, mark asked do you have a gun in the house, go find it and blow your brains out. this is the tone that has emanated from talk radio and this cancer has spread and that tone has infected the whole of the party. so this moment that we've arrived at where there's been a serverability and the test of who is the conservative in the race is who has the loudest voice of opposition. we went from being the small government party, but a movement of ideas to being an anti-government party and when constitutions collapse and we no longer propose anything and we no longer stand for anything, we no longer advocate for anything and we don't turn out the

. >> not only could it really happen, the late and great william f. buckleyfounder of the modern american conservatism and the movement often said the best and most substantive debates he ever had was with people where there was less space between the opposition. so when you have a bernie sanders and a donald trump who are actually both, you know, isolationists effectively in this race. they are closer together on some of their trade policies and some of their economic policies than maybe with hillary clinton, maybe you would actually get into the nuances of some real substance finally in this political cycle. >> maybe. but angela, hillary clinton wakes up, reads this headline and says what? >> she says, maybe i should have debated bernie? i think the reality of this is to margaret's point, although i disagree slightly, i think this is an opportunity for bernie sanders to show just how much of a team player he is. at first i was like, oh, no, you know, this might not be good for the hillary campaign, but i think it could be really good. bernie sanders has dem

he wrote a book called "the conservative mind." ,n animated william f buckley barry goldwater. the idol of the modern conservative. it is still in print. still wildly -- widely read. intelligentsia will speak of this book. it was not a villainous philosophy. shouldat how society the. the conservative and the liberal way. johnattle goes back to adams and thomas jefferson. they started whenever he came through town. it haso it the way always been done. jefferson said we need a revolution every 20 years. he saw changes a good ring. two fundamental worldviews. thomas payne eventually supported the american revolution. he spent two weeks at his house. he got into this too-weeklong battle. wrote an entire book, "the rights of man," as a rebuttal. here is the modern english version. a ruling class and everybody else. manays it does no harm if a is servile as a candle maker. he iss violence if allowed to participate in the government. way, is the same kind of thinking that has animated laws across the united states. suppress the vote. john adams wanted to use that with people of lower

william buckley in the '80s, another cia agent went to iran and was executed. >> folks disappear. there is a lot of documents that were in bob's files that i reviewed in the course of writing the book that make it clear that there are people in iran that know about him, that know about what happened to him. >> is he alive? when is the last sighting that suggests -- at what point do we know he was still alive? >> we know he was alive in 2010 when the hostage video was released. there were photographs that came out, also. since then there has been nothing. it has been six years. >> just looking, you are a two-time winner of the george polk award. you have written about pain medication, two major books on it. what drew you to this story? >> i picked up a copy of the financial times in 2007. i read an article about an american private eye who went to a part of iran supposedly to investigate cigarette smuggling. what drew me in was the fact that he was meeting a fugitive american assassin who escaped to iran after murdering an ex-aid to the shaw of iran in 1980. i thought this is inter

even william f. buckley supported a public service for--young people who are 18. i think when you're part of the risk, you're gonna be part of the solution. our founding fathers did not want a professional army. they were very explicit about this. they called it-- we did not want a standing army. and the moment we get awe and a tiny number of people go to fight when they shouldn't be sent to fight because "they're a professional army" doing their job--the moment we have that awe, we surrender to that kind of militarization of our foreign policy. and having been in the army, i can assure e you tht when you're in the army,y, navy, air r force, or marines, you d't have awe of those people when you get out, because you knoow too mumuch. >> second question, what are the most important questions you would ask the presidential candidates in the next debate? >> how will you shift power from the few to the many in ways that make it very easy for people to band together as consumers, as workers into democratic trade unions, as small taxpayer groups, and as communities who a

you think about william f. buckley and the philosophy of the most electable conservative out there.k about mccain, dole, maybe jeb bush who was the hope of some conservatives. romney, it didn't work out so well. think is a whole new ballgame. >> donald trump's whole theory though he says he's a common sense conservative, he's a mixture. he has some moderate and conservative positions. that has thrown the republican party into a tizzy. there are other anti-trump people who are softening. maybe we can work with this guy. they don't want to be in the uncomfortable position of opposing the nominee maybe out of party loyalty. martha: the never trump crowd, the criticism of him is they didn't get their act together. all the moments in this campaign when so many said that's it. the trump campaign is going to fall apart. they lost essentially. they lost. trump was a force of of nature in this campaign. like him or hate him. all of these big time nors who were going to beat him couldn't compete with the street fighter who couldn't be involved in a political campaign. trump was very agile, he

what you're seeing in this divide and the divide that goes back 60 years, with william f. buckleys. we saw this movement of conservatism take ahold of the republican party. i think the republican party became intertwined with that movement of conservatism really for the past 60 years. now we're seeing that unraveling. trump identifies as a republican, but not so much as a movement conservative. and paul ryan, the house speaker, he wants to see that movement of conservatism still be at the fore of the gop. >> and ron fournier, al sharpton said it perfectly. trump's done very well winning the republican primary, winning on that smaller stage. he's now on the big stage now. is he going to be able to raise his game? and so far this week, it's been a miserable failure. he's picked one fight after another and is now fighting the third-ranking official in the united states government, who happens to be the highest ranking republican. >> yeah, first of all win noticed that donald just tweeted that he doesn't watch "morning joe" anymore, so i want to say, hey, donald, i know you're really