joining us now from washington is former secretary of defense william cohen.he logic of banning travel from europe? —— explained to me. according to dr fauci, we have to exclude the people coming in and... from the medical point of view, is the right thing to do. we do see a volume of people coming into our country. it's not so much the decision that was made about europe, but the way in which it was done. 0nce europe, but the way in which it was done. once again, i think the president did not consult with our allies, saying this is what we are about to do, i want to give you a heads up, let's see if we can't work out some head of arraignment where we don't crater the international economy as such, but you have the president doing it unilaterally. i think it is time that we stop, the president stops, rubbing the noses of our allies in our nationals. what ta kes of our allies in our nationals. what takes in europe does not stay in europe, what takes place in china does not take place just in china. do not characterize it as a foreign disease. think with the mar

he is interviewed by former wall street investment banker and author william cohen. after is a weekly interview program with relevant guest host interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. all "after words" programs are available as podcasts.

he is interviewed by former wall street investment banker and author william cohen. after is a weekly interview program with relevant guest host interviewing top nonfiction authors about their latest work. all "after words" programs are available as podcasts. first of all let me say thank you for this interview. now, it was written to an entrepreneur, a lot of young entrepreneurs no how hard it can be and how rewarding it can be. so it really offers and encouragement to people to think, if i want to start my own business, i should do it. the other thing, i wanted to do it before i got too old and did not remember everything because looking at this change from when the sec dictated to the new york stock exchange to get rid of fixed commissions and going through all the technology was really an inflection point in our financial service industry and i wanted to tell the story from the inside so people would see a human aspect to it. >> the title, the harder you work, the luckier you get, is that tongue-in-cheek or do you really believe that? >> i really did believe that