you nailed what william cowan, the distinguished william cowan, the secretary of defense with alton fry of the council of foreign relations. the democrats could offer motions to offer motive to select a speaker capable of working across the aisle. nominated with experience and respected from outside the house. the trigger a contested health, with the original constitutional conception. you nailed this. >> i said that on air, so much her accounts, but i'm glad you said that. >> oh boy. seriously? >> lets good emily porter on this. >> this stuff was set off air. >> i lost count. how many votes are we up to? what is -- this afternoon -- is it the 10th or 11th? >> yes. i'm sure this morning will be the 12th. at noon. >> i want to talk about this reality. i talked to washington insiders yesterday and they are waiting for common sense to come in here , and there was someone from outside to come in if mccarthy agrees. you could tell me the process. they mention the governor of maryland, hogan, they mentioned a gentleman from michigan. upton. is there a possibility upton or hogan could save the