if if the republicans it won't work for them anymore to be old fashioned william f. buckley conservatives and if it doesn't work for them to be michele bachmann crazies what do they have left. well they don't look if you're advising the republicans right now you're probably going to tell him the same thing that i would tell him and that is you know what guys you're going to lose a couple of cycles you're going to have to lose to rebuild and it's very difficult for them to get that in their head and part of the rebuilding doesn't doesn't mean that you do things like mess with the ballot what we should be doing what we should be doing to pressure them even more we need to begin this effort towards a federally standardized procedure where your standardized registration standardized ballot form standardized polling places standardized training for workers standardize challenges election day where you have a national holiday extend that voting day to an entire week you know what's troublesome to me is the democrats always fail to look back and be honest with themselves about what

having been discovered by william f. buckley, reading and writing for "national review," having overcome education at harvard university -- [laughter] and upbringing in west virginia -- [laughter] charles is a towering figure of the conservative movement. rightly so. he's a professor of government at clermont college, the co-editor with william f. buckley of "keeping the tablets of modern american conservative thought," and wrote extensively on american constitutionalism and political ideas. indeed, his addition not federalist papers, the one published, is the best selling edition in the united states. he contributes regularly to the opinion pages of "wall street journal," "los angeles times," writes about conservatory politics in the "national review, "weekly standard," among other journals. he's a senior fellow at the think tank allies which takes to the mission to restore the principles of the american founding. he is the intellectual muscle of that mission. he teaches in two of the key fellows programs. the fellows program a

conservatives, including william f. buckley and brent bozell sr. didn't waste time cursing the darkness. instead they founding something called the american conservative union. they took it upon themselves to plot out a long and short-term strategy for their cause which was conservatism. the pathway at that point was cleared for fresh voices and new approaches. acu friend ronald reagan became governor in california in 1967. the movement slowly but surely grew in popularity. and his 1980 victory. reagan converted democrats not by adopting democrat views. but instead by convincing them that conservative solutions offer the only hope for american renewal. we need to do that same thing again. and that's the memo. now on to the top story. reaction. joining me from new york. republic strategist dee dee ben can i and from nashville, tennessee, republic chip saultzman who was the manager of governor mike huckabee's 2008 presidential bid. okay. it's great to see you. we will start with you dee dee because i know you were a special assistant in the bush year

there was a time when republicans -- when even conservatives would listen to the wisdom of william f. buckleyative guy or woman. you elect the most electable conservative guy. get them as conservative as you can. but a guy that can win in northwest florida like myself by 80%? is not the guy you want to nominate in southern california. >> what did hayry barber say about jim jeffers? >> again, during this presidential process when i was asking olympia snowe -- or asking a candidate about olympia snowe. are you glad she's in your party? he wouldn't answer. and then we asked haley who said, hell yeah! i'm glad olympia snowe's in our party. i wish jeff jeffards was, too. he's going to be more conservative than anybody that can get elected in vermont. >> what's the time frame here? is it the republican party has perhaps a year-and-a-half to sort of figure out what direction they're going to head in? a year-and-a-half before the leaders of the republican party go to the front window of the club that they belong to, open up the drapes and look out on main street and see the reality of life in america

william f. buckley supported marijuana legalization. it is a small government, get out of my home, a conservative policy when you boil it down. we will see of the conservative party takes it and runs with it. host: what exactly is the marijuana policy project? guest: we are a nonprofit and we do work on the state and federal level to reform draconian marijuana laws. work on medical marijuana laws, decriminalization and we are member-base and i think we have over 160,000 members. host: the marijuana policy project has staffers in colorado? working on this initiative? guest: that's correct. we are the driving funding force behind it. host: talk to us about your interest in this and how you became part of the heritage foundation. guest: during my years in congress, i chaired the subcommittee that among other things controlled the funding for the office of national drug control policy. people talk about a bad in terms of being the drug czar. we work with organizations like the partnership for drug-free america. host: we are talking about th

[laughter] baldwin had been in england at the university of cambridge, they debated william f. buckleye 600 students, wiped the floor -- buckley had no chance in the debate. well, the topic at that time was the american dream, is it at the expense of the negro? i mean, you can actually see it on youtube. pull it up. you can actually watch the buckl ergs y-baldwin debate. it's just sunning. at any rate. he's just flown back from england, and he's on his way to a special event. february 21st, 1965, three days after the debate in england, malcolm x was assassinated in harlem. two weeks after that, 600 civil rights marchers were beaten by sheriffs deputies and state police and the bridge in selma, alabama, the incident was known as "bloody sunday," one of the most important markers in the civil right movement's history. if anything now, the fire next time, that manifesto of what might come to be in america if we didn't face this past, the fire next time, the 1963 sellere months number one on the "new york times" best seller's list, seems a bit too prophetic. by late march, baldwin in selma