when it comes to marijuana, william f buckley, governor rick perry has come out in favor of decriminalization. pat roberts in. dennis eisley, sean hannity, libertariansgrich. and social conservatives can absolutely work together if we realize we are both trying to limit the government when it comes to freedom. >> thank you so much. point,alding, at some tends to get -- at what point do we dissipate to the point where we are no longer we the people. chose the word

of course, jack robinson was not william f. buckley conservative but definitely a republican but who cares? to me, his faith was beautiful. >> host: speaking at the national prayer breakfast you have the book here? >> two years ago i had the honor to be chosen to speak in front of the president, first lady, vice president and congress every big shot at the national prayer breakfast the honor of my life. i did not taken lightly. i knew as soon as i was invited it was not about me that god has something he wants to share with everyone there if they agree or disagree politically. i would not use the occasion to embarrass the president but to reach out to him with some thoughts or ideas that is what i intended to do. it is online at eric metaxas.com it was a crazy morning. the background story is a crazy story. talking to joe biden and having conversations with people then something very happened very funny then finally singing amazing grace of the belli did not know i would do that but i thought i have to right this. is a long essay. it i

we sort of forgot it if we ever knew it that he advised for example william f. buckley.he was around when the conservative free-market journal for freeman was created. he was a counselor to many conservatives or out of power republicans. they didn't always take his advice and he gave it often but he was there and that father figure is underappreciated in modern history as well. he had a phrase of regimentation. what did that mean? >> guest: that was his term for the new deal. it was a variant of a number of variants of what he called statism state control of the economy, state control of society socialism communism -- ism. it was the american variant which had a relationship he thought to the other was regimentation. in essence the economy would not hear free economy simply regulated by government as umpire which hoover said was his crutch but it would become a top-down managed economy with government dictating to business or even the hating as leader of business organizing business. hoover argued that properly regulated individualism was the proper alternative to what h

william f. buckley jr. was a major figure. you could in 1960 put all the conservative intellectuals in the united states into one room of modest size. now we have a much more elaborate infrastructure and apparatus of conservatism and its many formulations. it's of much more rich. for conservative to live in because the movement has grown. but there was a time when it was very much a lonely occupation. back in those areas. hoover was kind of a figure of rectitude. here is a man who had been defeated. >> and the figure, is very important. want to ask you briefly what did he do with the hoover institution before we come to the break? >> herbert hoover founded what is called today the hoover institution. it started in world war one and its aftermath as he began to collect documentation relating to the war, particularly his own relief work in and he expanded the mission. he wanted to find and save for future historians tremendous amounts of material that might otherwise be lost or blocked that would document this immense human trag

we sort of have forgotten it if we ever knew it that he advised for example william f. buckleyor glenn free market journal that remained was -- they did nice take his advice. he gave it often but he was there and that sort of father figure is underappreciated in modern history as well. he had a phrase, regimentation. what did that mean for the new deal? >> host: >> guest: it was a variant of our number of variants of what he called statism state control of the economy, state-controlled society, socialism commonism and fascism. it had a relationship he thought to the others was regimentation. that is in essence the economy would not be a free economy simply regulated by government's umpire which hoover said was his approach but it would become a top-down managed economy with government dictating to business or behaving as the leader business and organizing business. hoover argued that properly regulated individualism was the proper alternative to what he called shooter socialism. >> host: so he's talking about communism in russia witchita pours into test. he was not a recognitio

we have forgotten it if we ever knew it, that he advised william f. buckley, he was around when the conservative pre-market journal of freeman was created he was a counselor to many conservatives or out of power republicans. they didn't always take his advice. the gave it often but when he was there, that sort of father figure is underappreciated in modern history. what did regimentation mean for the new deal? >> he argued that was his term for the new deal. it was a variant of a number of variants of what he called state is in, state control of the economy, state-controlled society socialism, communism, fashion and fascism into the american variant which had some relationship to the others was regimentation, in essence that the economy would not be a free economy, simply regulated by government as umpire which hoover said was his approach but it would become a top down manage the economy with government dictating to business or even behaving as leader of business, organizing business so hoover argued that properly regulated individualism was the proper alter

william f. buckley. >> guest: william f. buckley was--became attached to the mccarthy cause through a young lawyer by the name of brent bozell. the two of them penned a book called "mccarthy and his enemies," which was basically a defense of mccarthy's charges against the state department and against the truman administration here. there seems to have been some talk about him working as a spr--speechwriter for joe mccarthy. later on, joe's wife, jean kerr, wanted bill to come on board, it--it seems, but mccarthy's important later on, because it is buckley who will single-handedly, in a sense, resurrect the conservative movement with his founding of the national review. c-span: brent bozell was married to... >> guest: brent bozell was married to patricia buckley. c-span: the sister of bill buckley? >> guest: bill's sister, yeah. c-span: and is the father of the l. brent bozell who runs this media research center here... >> guest: that's right. c-span: ...in washington today? >> guest: that's right. that's correct. c-span: drew

jackie robinson was not a william f. buckley conservative in the survey was a republican, no doubt about that, but who cares? to me his faith was just beautiful. >> you talked about speaking at the national prayer breakfast. you have a mini book here, no pressure, mr. president. what is this? >> well, two years ago i had the high honor of being chosen to speak in front of the president, the first leg of the vice president, the estimates of congress, every big shot you can think of as the national prayer breakfast and it was the honor of my life. i didn't take it lightly. i knew as soon as i was invited that this was actually not about me, that god has something he wants to share with everyone there, those people agree with me politically seem to screw with me politically. i was not used the occasion to try to embarrass the president, but to reach out to him in love with some thoughts and ideas, and that's what i attempted to do. i think i was successful only by god,'s grace because that's not easy to do, that its online. again,

he advised william f. buckley or was around when the conservative free-market journal was created. he was a counselor to many conservatives or out of power republicans. it is not always take his advice he was there. that father figure is under appreciated in modern history. he had a phrase regimentation. what did that mean? >> he argued that it was a variant of a number of parents of what he called state is in, state control of the economy, straight -- state-controlled society. he said the american variant which had some relationship to the others was regimentation. that is in essence the economy would not be a free economy simply regulated by government. it would become the top down managed economy with government dictating to business or even being yes leader of business organizing business. whoever argued that properly regulated individualism was the proper alternative to what he called sure socialism. >> he's thinking about communism in russia which she deplores. he was not for recognition of communist russia that he is also complaining of the regimentation and the new deal whi

we sort of forgot it if we ever knew it that he buys for example william f. buckleyor he was around when the conservative free-market journal the freeman was created that he was a the counselor to many conservatives or out of power republicans. they didn't always take his advice and heat gave it out often that he was there and that father figure is underappreciated in modern history as well. what did that mean for the new deal? >> guest: that was his term for the new deal. a number of variants of what he called state control of the economy and society into socialism, communism, fascism. he sai said the variants that he some relationship to the others was the regimentation. that is msn's dot economy would have to be a free economy regulated by the government empire which hoover said of his approach but it would become a top-down managed economy dictating to the business or even behaving as a leader of this organizing business, so he argued the individual is him was the proper alternative to what he called the sheer socialism. >> host: speaking of communism in russia i

and even into the 70s, there was a developing conservative presidents and william f. buckleyjunior with a major figure in that conservative presidents. but in 1960, with all the conservative intellectuals in the united states into one room of modest size. now we have been much more elaborate infrastructure and apparatus of conservatism in its many formulations. so jay much richer. for a conservative to live in because the movement has grown and matured. but there was a time when it was very much a lonely occupation back in those areas and hoover in that era was kind of a figure of rectitude. here's a man defeated that made its way back in the sky in the fight. >> host: the figure of consolation, very important. i want to ask you briefly to say what did he do with the hoover institution before we come to the break? >> guest: herbert hoover founded today what is called the hoover institution on war revolution and peace. it started world war i as he began to collect documentation relating to the war, particularly as the relief work and mixing a commission. he wanted to find and

women while intellectual organizations like the intercollegiate studies institute started by william f. buckley or the federalist society or the institution for humane studies at george mason university provide internships and seminars for budding conservative academics and future jurists, and the list goes on with the support of foundations with many familiar names. while this movement to build a core of young ideological, dependable lawyers, journalists, congressional staff and voters has been a central priority of right, very few social scientists have studied the effort to mobilize these students or to examine just how these students experience their undergraduate lives in the first place. and this has left us in the odd situation of not knowing if the accusations leveled against universities resonate with the students on whose behalf they're made, nor do we know much of anything else about these students, sup as when and how -- such as when and how do they become conservative, what are their political turning points before end during college? what are the issues that they care about, and h

and, for example, when he argues in the 1950 with william f. buckley jr. about politics, chambers says we have to use the republican party. neither of us likes it, we don't think that eisenhower's a conservative. there's a huge distance to travel before this becomes a real conservative party, but we have to use the means that are available to us, and we have to be pragmatic and realistic, and we have to work through the gradual mechanics of social change. that spirit is quite new. after goldwater, it's going to testimony be spirit of the conservative movement, and with reagan you could argue this becomes a kind of political fact in the larger, in the largeerer pollty and the larger culture. but the '40s and '50s when you see this transition, how does one be both conservative and strategic? that's a question. >> host: what do you teach at catholic university? >> guest: 20th century american history, a little bit of literature and a little bit of great book stuff. >> guest: is this your first book this. >> >> guest: yes. >> host: michael kimmage is the autho

when it comes to marijuana, william f buckley, governor rick perry has come out in favor of decriminalizationnnis eisley, sean hannity, libertariansgrich. and social conservatives can absolutely work together if we realize we are both trying to limit the government when it comes to freedom. >> thank you so much. point,alding, at some tends to get -- at what point do we dissipate to the point where we are no longer we the people. chose the word liberty, rather than the word freedom because they meant freedom appropriate for man. they understood lee pretty -- liberty to be under the laws of nature's god. it didn't mean licenses. it required a certain unity and agreement about certain common precepts of how we govern ourselves. as much freedom as possible. we want to have the freedom to choose. i agree with that. but we must agree first and freeman -- first and foremost on certain precepts. we believe all men are created equal. we believe everyone has the right to the pursuit of happiness, which includes the right to property. but also, religious freedom. that has to be an underlying core for th

when it comes to marijuana legalization or other drugs, you've got william f. buckleyvernor rick perry has come out in favor of decriminalization, pat robertson, bill o'reilly, sean hannity, even newt gingrich and ken cucinelli have requested the war on drugs. libertarians and social conservatives can absolutely work together if we both realize we're trying to limit the scope of government when it comes to -- [inaudible] >> thank you so much. [applause] at some point the notion we the people with a common moral philosophy tends to get dissipated in the autonomous approach the life and principle that defines libertarianism. at what point does the common philosophy underlying the constitution begin to dissipate to the point where we are no longer we the people? >> >> right. well, i think it begins with the founders' understanding of the word liberty. they chose the word liberty which was a latin word rather than freedom precisely because they met freedom appropriate for man -- they meant freedom appropriate for man. it didn't mean license. so in this -- it required a cer